Thread: Kraom's Workbook

Had another lucid this morning although it was at a weird time, it was sort of in the middle of my sleep rather than after I wake up initially. So it was just a DILD not even coupled with WBTB.

Originally Posted by paigeyemps

You're such a motivation to me and to the rest of the students too

Speak for yourself.... jkjkjk

Good job, Kraom

Had a lucid this morning very clear and vivid, like the clearest dream I've had in a while. I was just there in my dream about to dive Lil Wayne somewhere when I thought to myself, you know its probably unlikely that'd I'd be driving Lil Wayne somewhere. So naturally I became lucid and then my first impulse was to fly, BUT I didn't. Instead I saw a DC walking by and I said to it, "Hey Wait!" And so the DC did stop and wait. So I went over and hugged this DC, but I closed my eyes when I did which caused me to destabilize. Kind of sad that a dream that clear ended the quality of it was great.

Originally Posted by SpaceCowboyDave

Speak for yourself.... jkjkjk

What.

Alright, had another lucid this morning. I find it amusing how sometimes I tell myself that I am dreaming. In my dream I had this nice new black Chevy Camaro and I had backed it into this metal electric box so I was freaking out. And then in the middle of my freaking out I literally just stopped and said to myself, "Chill this is just a dream." So then I got out of the car and just started walking around, this dream was pretty clear. There was this dog that was near a pool and at first I was excited to see him like oh cool a nice dream dog. But no he runs at me and starts snarling and so I freak out and throw him with telekinesis, pretty sure he died

So now I'm not sure if I was going crazy in this lucid or not but I was talking to two people but there wasn't actually two people with me. So they told me they wanted some drinks so we started walking towards a 7-11. Then I don't remember what but they told me to do something else and I said, "Do you want me to destabilize. I have to keep my focus." I did end up destabilizing and then I re-entered the dream only to destabilize after a few more steps down the sidewalk. Still need to stop and think more in my dreams I think that'll be my goal for this month and once I can do that then maybe I can have an actual conversation with a DC that I didn't almost kill!

Interesting lucid. I know what you mean about the "stop and think more" thing. It seems that my lucids in general are more stable when I have to stop and think of what I want to do for example. And I find it makes my LDs more consistent as far as control and length, mainly because I try to think of a previously memorized list of things to do (like the TOTM, or a personal task of some sort). It kinda ties your lucid mind in with your waking mind a bit, so you don't get too wrapped up in that crazy dream logic and destabilize lol.

Still awesome! We had a bunch of DILDs today in our intro class, I'm really happy and proud!

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Anyways, let me just, tell you what happened... SO ever since school started I've been SO busy.. so busy. Studying for the SAT applying for colleges, homework, etc. BUT anyways I decided I need to make time for dreamviews again cause I have notice an IMMENSE decline in my lucid quality since not journaling dreams, writing in my workbook, and whatnot. I have managed to have lucid dreams since school started.. not with the frequency I'd like (I'm at about.. 1 per week ) And my memory of them is always so awful its annoying.. so anyways.. I'm back!

WELCOME BACK!!

We missed you

ya what she said

WELL, nothing really last night or this morning.. But I did write quite a bit in my physical journal last night before going to sleep. So, I think I'm taking proper steps to recovering my lucid ability.. The one thing that I've noticed is that I seem to only have lucids on days where I can sleep in a little.. So like the weekend and Wednesday, the day I go to school later. So I tried setting an alarm then going back to sleep but that just made me angry when it went off lol. SO right now I don't really know I'm really only having lucids on Wednesdays.. the last Wednesday that I got to sleep in on, I had three lucid dreams in the one morning.. so I suppose that sort of makes up for the lack on the other days.. Anyways I'll be working on having lucids on the other days.. As to how, I haven't exactly figured it out yet.. BUT I'll think of something.

Hey welcome back Kraom!!!

You know, I'm totally the same way with the sleeping in. Don't get me wrong, I have had LDs when I knew I had to wake up early for work, but they're not as common. But they're more common now that they were when I first joined. Anyway, the point is, nothing wrong with getting enough sleep for those LDs.

I'm not sure what I did different on those days when I didn't get to sleep in, yet still had LDs. I remember that in one of them, I think I did 2 tasks. Thst's gotta be repeatable. I need to go back and look at that entry because dayamn. I'm glad you reminded me of it. I usually make notes about how I slept and what I did to make it different, so hopefully there's something to learn from it. And if there is I'll share it with you. Because I'll be honest, I hate thinking that "Oh, I can ONLY have LDs when I can sleep in or take a nap." Because it just isn't true, I've even proven this to myself. Just gotta repeat the performance.

Hey Kraom! Happy to see you're back at DV too. That's awesome that you had three LDs in one morning. That's a very good restart! You'll be having tons of LDs in no time.

Alright, alright.. SO tomorrow is.. WEDNESDAY.. woo everyone knows what that means! Sleep in day. I've got high hopes for tomorrow. Not really, but you know I'm hoping for something maybe not lucid but at least improved recall or something.. The last Wednesday I had to sleep in like this (two weeks ago now) ((Last Wednesday I had to get up early)) like I said before I had three lucids in the one morning.. Anyway I think that I've taken a good step forward towards lucids on a non-Wednesday. I've been going to sleep earlier then I normally do and as a result I've been waking up earlier then I normally do. So it sort of produced that state I'm in when sleeping in. Except for this morning, it was almost like I overdid it, I was waking up every few minutes for about an hour before I finally had to get up.. So I'll probably continue with that and see where it goes..

Sounds good. I was wondering btw, are you still doing SSILD? Or are you gonna switch to something else? What other things/routines have you changed since last time?

Originally Posted by paigeyemps

Sounds good. I was wondering btw, are you still doing SSILD? Or are you gonna switch to something else? What other things/routines have you changed since last time?

Alright so I guess I'll just give you the rundown.. So I stopped SSILD a while ago back when I still frequented the site because I felt like the effects of it were diminishing, and my ability to naturally DILD was increasing. So I just started relying on DILDs which is where I've had probably half of my lucids. I'm still relying on DILD but I've been toying with the idea of trying things like FILD or even going back to SSILD again, since it did work well. I kind of just got lazy doing SSILD and I found myself falling back asleep prematurely. But anyways lately I've still been relying on my natural DILDs with one thing, I've been going to sleep a lot earlier than I normally do and as a result waking up much earlier, giving me the time I need to have my lucid dreams in the morning before I have to get up for school. This has been working well, except for this morning my sleep in day, I woke up around 5 AM and went back to sleep which is normal with what I've been doing. I only had one lucid dream this morning probably around the time I might normally get up on a regular day, but I don't know exactly because I wasn't keeping track of time at this point. So after this lucid I woke up again around 7 AM and couldn't really fall back into full sleep more like a half-awake half-asleep sort of delirious state, the same kind of thing when I take afternoon naps. So now my conclusion is: to continue with my earlier sleep schedule on everyday but Thursday and go to sleep at my normal time on Wednesdays to increase the maximum effectiveness.

And now I'll just report what happened this morning. So had a lucid it was awful quality can hardly even remember where I was, I think in my room and I remember going downstairs. I was hardly in control either, I was running around sort of frantically trying to accomplish something. And after a little the dream just went black and I woke up.

Ahh got it.

Those kinds of lucids irk me a litte. I don't like it when I can't remember what happened, and only remember waking up and thinking I just had a lucid but nothing more. Gah! :'|

So my going to sleep early waking up early method seems to be working pretty well. I did manage to have a lucid this morning albeit, a very strange one. But hey strange dreams make for interesting dreams at least. Just to give you an idea of the dream here.. I was at school, there was some conspiracy theory that ended up releasing demons, and at my school there's a daycare for the babies of some girls that already have babies.. Anyways I became lucid but still was just going with the dream so I started flying and told everyone, "TO THE BABY CENTER! Babies ward off demons!" and when I got there the babies were locked in kennels like they were dogs or something.. Anyways I don't know how it came to this last part but there was a lake next to the baby center and there were puppies swimming in it and people were trying to gauge the puppies strength based on which puppies made it back and which ones drowned.. I was hovering over the lake and I could see the corpses of some puppies.. and at the end I saw some labrador puppies that were swimming and someone said forget the labradors we don't need them!

So yea.. still wanna stop and think don't necessarily want to keep going with the flow of my dreams but I guess it's better than nothing..

So, this morning my technique failed me! I went to sleep early and then when I woke up. BOOM it's 6:15 fifteen minutes before I need to get up. So yea nothing really at all this morning >:C

Sounds like you needed the sleep! I had the opposite problem: plenty of time to sleep in, but my allergies kept me tossing and turning

That lucid with the babies and the puppies, wow. I would have woken up crying lol. I have to admit, I never went with the flow in an LD to that extent. What I have done though, is let the flow of the dream create the setting for me (because creating the setting can be so much work and I'll frustrate myself and wake myself up if I try to change too much stuff sometimes). Then once I have a good start, I take over. I'm always worried that if I give up too much of my free-will in an LD, then it will just go nuts and I'll lose myself and it will become non-lucid. That ever happen to you?

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

That lucid with the babies and the puppies, wow. I would have woken up crying lol. I have to admit, I never went with the flow in an LD to that extent. What I have done though, is let the flow of the dream create the setting for me (because creating the setting can be so much work and I'll frustrate myself and wake myself up if I try to change too much stuff sometimes). Then once I have a good start, I take over. I'm always worried that if I give up too much of my free-will in an LD, then it will just go nuts and I'll lose myself and it will become non-lucid. That ever happen to you?

Well, that's never exactly happened to me.. although I have lost lucids even when I'm going with the flow.. that dream was more like.. I was lucid but the only thing I changed was I used lucid abilities as in, flying. But a lot of my dreams where I'm lucid and go with the flow do really get crazy.. maybe it's just that I'm no longer thinking in dream logic and I'm using real logic..

So, little late today but, this morning I did have a lucid and some pretty decent dream recall.. And I managed to have this lucid even with going to sleep later, a lot later, than I normally do. BUT I did get to naturally sleep in.. And I learned something interesting about my dreams this morning.. In my lucid I was doing something and then after the dream ended I was still imagining myself doing whatever and then eventually I went into a FA where I was still doing whatever activity I happen to be doing.. although I only realized now that it was a FA.. SO anyways I'm going to try and capitalize on this.. And I really need to work on my memory, I've had really awful memory lately.

Well, well, well this morning was quite interesting. I ended up having three, that's right THREE lucids. Yea so they were all DILDs I don't even realize I'm dreaming really anymore I literally just go into dreams like OK I'm dreaming. But, it's only after I get into that mindset. So after my first lucid where I have to realize I'm dreaming, pretty much any dream after that will be just a natural lucid. OH and I had my first experience with dream food this morning, some crazy looking sandwich that was in a hotel room I wandered into.. pretty tasty..

I always think that I wanted to just take in the sights of my lucid dream and just see how long I could make one last, AND YET, I've never done it because I always end up in dream and think about it and say AWW but that's such a waste of a lucid.. WELL this time.. this time, I'm going to do it! Next lucid dream, but who knows when that'll be..

Wow its cool to watch your LDing skills mature throughout this thread. Out of curiosity, why do you want to actively take in the sights so badly? I can understand wanting to do as much as possible while lucid, that's what I would do.