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      Kraom's Workbook

      So it's called Kraom's workbook because my name was 8adj8 but to be able to use the chat my name had to be changed sooo yea..

      Lucid dreaming tasks
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      (/) Stabilize my dreams better
      -Successfully stabilized a dream pretty well. (Want to stabilize more before considering this complete.)
      (/) Fly again
      -Didn't full on fly but I did float. (And I wasn't trying to fly, I was trying to float.)
      ( ) Be a vampire
      ( ) Ride a unicorn
      ( ) Drive a car
      ( ) Have a conversation with a dream character
      ( ) Control an element
      ( ) Use the internet

      Induction Methods
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      1. DILD
      2. WILD
      3. WBTB

      Dream Signs
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      None to speak of at the moment

      How I'm going to stabilize
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      First, I found that focus on a single object (usually vibrantly colored) helps me to keep my dreams stabilized.
      Second, focusing on my hands also works.

      Reality checks I use
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      Plugging nose and trying to breath.
      Analyzing hands.
      Last edited by Kraom; 07-03-2012 at 01:52 PM.

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      This morning I had a successful WBTB. I had woken up at around 2:55 AM and way laying there doing my mantras trying to go back to sleep and then an alarm went off that I had set to improve my dream recall and then attempt a WBTB afterwards. I turned the alarm off and went back to my mantras. The last time I checked the time wast at 3:46 AM, after that the next thing I remember I was in my dream. Feel free to read about the actual dream in my journal.

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      Hey adj! Welcome to the class!

      Ooooh and congrats on the lucid! It's great that you were focused and remembered what to do, which is very hard for most people.

      Be sure to check out the links and resources compilation in the main class thread, you might find something helpful. We also encourage you to join the DVA chats, if you can

      Good luck and happy dreaming!

      Maybe it's a dream and if I scream, it will burst at the seams.

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      Hey Kraom, good job on the LD last night. So you have LDs on a regular basis nowadays? Have you considered also using awareness-based techniques, like Sporadic Awareness Technique or All Day Awareness? They can be helpful if you rely on DILDs a lot. Also, do you have a general plan for your next LD? I find having a plan makes my LDs a little more productive.

      Welcome to the class!

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      Yea I do usually have lucid dreams on a regular basis and by that I mean around every other morning. I have read the All Day Awareness tutorial and have started practicing that which I think will help me a lot. And my plan for my next lucid dream is to work on my stabilization more, I was thinking this morning that I might just sit somewhere in the dream and think to myself and once I feel that I did well enough stabilizing I'll attempt one of my dream goals, maybe full fledged flight this time.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kraom View Post
      Yea I do usually have lucid dreams on a regular basis and by that I mean around every other morning.
      Wow, that's really good. You wrote earlier that you've been LDing for two years, but are you a natural? Good luck stabilizing, I'm positive you'll be soaring through the skies in no time!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Caenis View Post
      Wow, that's really good. You wrote earlier that you've been LDing for two years, but are you a natural?
      Well, when I first learned about LDing like I said it was two years ago and it took a long time to have my first lucid dream. After I had my first dream I started having lucid dreams with a lot more frequency. Only problem was that my dreams were all short or I would overexcite myself and wake up. And I stopped practicing lucid dreaming a while ago and recently just remembered it again because I had a lucid dream around two weeks ago. So now it seems pretty natural to me just to realize in my dreams that I'm dreaming from any little thing, sometimes even passively knowing just oh this is a dream even if nothing triggered that thought.

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      Lucid dreaming tasks Updated!
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      (/) Stabilize my dreams better
      -Successfully stabilized a dream pretty well. (Want to stabilize more before considering this complete.)
      (/) Fly again
      -Didn't full on fly but I did float. (And I wasn't trying to fly, I was trying to float.)
      ( ) Be a vampire
      ( ) Ride a unicorn
      ( ) Drive a car
      ( ) Have a conversation with a dream character
      ( ) Control an element
      ( ) Use the internet
      ( ) Task of the month- Drink magical potion
      ( ) Spawn a DC as a dream companion
      ( ) Attempt respawning previous DC companion
      ( ) Telekinesis
      ( ) Time dilation
      ( ) Meet my dream guide

      Also, I will be gone the 4th and 5th of July. But I still should be able to update my journal and workbook via my phone.
      Last edited by Kraom; 07-04-2012 at 05:51 AM.

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      Attempted a WILD last night with the free-fall method, I was unsuccessful, although there were many disruptions like a lot.. I'll probably attempt one again when I get back from camping. I did recall and journal a dream, in my physical journal and I'll post that later. I'm leaving to go camping in a few minutes so I'll probably only be on each morning until Friday to update my workbook and journal.

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      So, I ended up trying a WILD again and was unsuccessful again, still so many disruptions. Definitely not trying another til I get back from camping and when I do it will be coupled with a WBTB, so I don't get disturbed. Although camping seems non-beneficial to lucid dreaming I was able to practice my ADA. And my dream recall was insane I recalled around 7 different dreams.

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      Yeah if I'm in a different place, especially sleeping in a different place, I can end up having better recall and more vivid dreams. Also more lucid success. Not counting times where there are too many disruptions though, like you mentioned having. When do you come back from camping, Friday?

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      Yep, Friday.

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      Alright, so I'm back from camping. While I was gone my recall was really good, but not my lucidity probably because the way I was sleeping wasn't very comfortable. Now that I'm back I can update my dream journal since I couldn't do that from my phone. Also, I'm going to revamp my sleep schedule with set times. And I will be attempting more WILD's but I'm going to be using the WBTB WILD method since there are so many noises at the time I'm trying to do it, also might try it with guided relaxation to see if that works.

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      Good luck Kraom! Wurlman's been talking about guided relaxation, and it works very well for him. Hope you see good results with it too.

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      I tried another WILD with guided relaxation last night and was unsuccessful. But I fell that I've been going about WILDs wrong, instead of coupling them with a WBTB, like I've read is suggested, I attempt them around the time I would be going to sleep. Also I didn't really like the guided relaxation tape or whatever I should call it and so I might try a different one. So, tonight I will attempt a WILD coupled with a WBTB. Aside from all that after my WILD attempt failed I decided I would just go to sleep. But I couldn't go to sleep because right outside my window there was a party going on and they were extremely loud. So last night just wasn't a good night. Once I get back to my mom's house I should be doing well again, but that won't be til Monday.

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      So I had a successful DILD this morning after attempting a WBTB WILD. Will post it in my dream journal after this. I was feeling a little bit down this morning when i woke up at 7:50 because my dream recall sucked and I didn't remember much. Also I was thinking about how I hadn't had a lucid in a while, well a while for me. But I decided to try a WILD and then I kept swallowing because my throat felt weird so I decided I'd just try going back to sleep. It took me a while to fall back asleep, but it was all worth it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kraom View Post
      So I had a successful DILD this morning after attempting a WBTB WILD. Will post it in my dream journal after this. I was feeling a little bit down this morning when i woke up at 7:50 because my dream recall sucked and I didn't remember much. Also I was thinking about how I hadn't had a lucid in a while, well a while for me. But I decided to try a WILD and then I kept swallowing because my throat felt weird so I decided I'd just try going back to sleep. It took me a while to fall back asleep, but it was all worth it.
      That's great! It always gets hard when you go through a period of not having much luck, happens to all of us. Just need to use that as motivation to keep striving until you succeed!

      Try not to worry about swallowing when you're doing a WILD. You don't stop swallowing when you're sleeping. Thinking about not swallowing is going to be worse than actually just swallowing.
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      The best reason for having dreams is that in dreams no reasons are necessary.

      No sailor controls the sea. Only a foolish sailor would say such a thing. Similarly, no lucid dreamer controls the dream.
      Like a sailor on the sea, we lucid dreamers direct our perceptual awareness within the larger state of dreaming.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RareCola View Post
      Try not to worry about swallowing when you're doing a WILD. You don't stop swallowing when you're sleeping. Thinking about not swallowing is going to be worse than actually just swallowing.
      I'll try this tonight, well tomorrow morning I guess it'll be. I actually read a WILD tutorial today that I think will help mzzkc's WILD guide..

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kraom View Post
      I'll try this tonight, well tomorrow morning I guess it'll be. I actually read a WILD tutorial today that I think will help mzzkc's WILD guide..
      While WILD tutorials are great, a lot of them aren't very helpful. The main portion of WILDing is literally just laying there, still, and waiting (which could take up to about 2 hours). The important part of WILDing, which is not covered in any WILD tutorials I've found, is the mental preparation.

      If you're really interested in WILDing I suggest you look at the links under the WILD section in this thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/f151/tutor...lation-133466/
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      The best reason for having dreams is that in dreams no reasons are necessary.

      No sailor controls the sea. Only a foolish sailor would say such a thing. Similarly, no lucid dreamer controls the dream.
      Like a sailor on the sea, we lucid dreamers direct our perceptual awareness within the larger state of dreaming.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RareCola View Post
      If you're really interested in WILDing I suggest you look at the links under the WILD section in this thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/f151/tutor...lation-133466/
      Hmm I'll read the WILD section of this. Also thanks that link has other things I was looking for as well.

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      Ok, don't have much to say today other than I had another DILD this morning, albeit a short one.. but still I was lucid nonetheless.

      Alright so I guess I do have a little bit more to say now that I think about it. I did try another WILD this morning after waking up naturally but I stopped and went back to sleep. I decided to work more on the prep-work that Rarecola linked me to yesterday before I attempt another WILD. Also the past two mornings that I've had LDs before them I had done 4-5 SSILD reps. I don't know if this is having an effect on my LDs or not seeing as they are DILDs but I suppose it can't hurt to keep doing it. And last thing my sleep schedule is already fixed. I go to sleep at eleven and wake up naturally at 7:30-8:00.
      Last edited by Kraom; 07-09-2012 at 05:54 PM. Reason: More to say

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      Congrats on the lucids! I am going to try out SSILD, it looks like its working well for you and I hope I can experience the same success!
      "When I wake up early in the morning
      Lift my head, I'm still yawning
      When I'm in the middle of a dream
      Stay in bed, float up stream" - John Lennon

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      Quote Originally Posted by eMCLucid View Post
      Congrats on the lucids! I am going to try out SSILD, it looks like its working well for you and I hope I can experience the same success!
      Yea like I said I'm not sure whether it's due to SSILD or not but it seems possible so I'll keep doing it. Also I wish you the best of luck with it.

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      Woo, third lucid in a row. Again I did SSILD before going back to sleep around 5 AM and then I had another DILD, so I guess whatever I'm doing I'm definitely not going to be changing it. Oh and also I need to start doing RCs when I wake up because I've been having way too many false awakenings lately. Had one after my lucid this morning.

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      Awww nice! Very very nice indeed. Congratulations!

      Maybe it's a dream and if I scream, it will burst at the seams.

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