Thread: Tenacious' Workbook

I had a Lucid Dream last night ()! It was the longest Lucid I've had bar none, I've just got to work on my control, as some stuff I could do and others I couldn't. I didn't use any technique last night, simply went to bed and hoped for the best. I was able to have a longer sleep than usual this morning as I woke up later, so maybe that was a factor. I remember a lot more dreams last night than I usually do which I think may be as a result of sleeping longer.

The WBTB that I attempted the other night didn't go as planned. I got woke up, recalled my dream, it was a nightmare again, but couldn't get back to sleep.

Originally Posted by Tenacious

I don't really know how I got her interested in lucid dreaming, I simply mentioned it in a conversation and I got a call that night where she told me she had read some stuff on it and wanted to know more. I didn't pretend to me a master of lucid dreaming, just told her what I knew and what worked for me while trying to attain them. Out of all the people I've told, she's probably the only one that has gone and put effort into it. Must just have more of an open mind to others, as some of the others have laughed at the notion of controlling their dreams. Their loss though.

Nice! To me the idea of dream control is incredibly exciting, so I'm always a little surprised how hard it is for it to sink in for some people. The ability to experience literally anything you can imagine! Sounds like a lot of it is down to just picking a person that's receptive enough to grasp the mind-blowing array of possibilities that open to the lucid dreamer. She must be super cool. Dare I say girlfriend material?

Originally Posted by Tenacious

Basically, it was a three round fight, each round five minutes long. I won in the first round at around four minutes, I managed to rock him with a high right kick to the head, he fell to the ground but was still defending himself from my punches when I was trying to finish it. So instead of wasting energy with punching, I waited until he tried to move and I grabbed an arm, and managed to get an arm bar submission win! Obviously it was that dream with Rousey teaching me how do crisp arm bars which got me the W I haven't got that many battle scars from it, just a bruised lower leg and a cut below my right eye so alls good, aha.

You are the man! Ha ha, as you got to the armbar, I was immediately thinking of your Rhonda Rousey dream even before you pointed it out! And a head kick!! So you drop the dude with a high kick, follow him to the ground, and take an arm... so awesome. I don't think I could choreograph anything cooler than that. Wish I could've seen it!

Originally Posted by Tenacious

I had a Lucid Dream last night ()! It was the longest Lucid I've had bar none, I've just got to work on my control, as some stuff I could do and others I couldn't. I didn't use any technique last night, simply went to bed and hoped for the best. I was able to have a longer sleep than usual this morning as I woke up later, so maybe that was a factor. I remember a lot more dreams last night than I usually do which I think may be as a result of sleeping longer.

The WBTB that I attempted the other night didn't go as planned. I got woke up, recalled my dream, it was a nightmare again, but couldn't get back to sleep.

All right, congratulations on the lucid! Sounds like it was a very successful one for you, given the length. I know that your control attempts were a bit mixed, but all of that'll come with time and practice. What sort of control did you have trouble with?

Ahaha, girlfriend material? We'll see.

My trainer has a video of the fight which I have to look over when I get back into training, I'll see if I can get it and upload it to youtube or something. What I did sounds slick, but when I done it I was panicking so much so it will probably look awkward lol.

I struggled with pretty much controlling anything, I think it was because I didn't stabilize the dream, so I'll have to remind myself to do that next time.

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Beginning of April Post

At the beginning of March, I laid out these goals:

Recall 40 Dreams
Attain 5 Lucid Dreams
Practice Levitation
Practice Fire Manipulation
Have an in depth conversation with a DC

I’m pleased to say that I managed to recall more than forty dreams, forty three to be exact according to my paper DJ. But I only attained four Lucid Dreams, I was one off having five but I’m still pleased I had four. I wasn’t able to do any of the bottom three in the lucid’s that I had.

Overall, despite not being able to attain four out of five out of my goals, I feel quite happy with my progress this month, now I need to carry on my momentum to April.

I dedicated March to MILD/WBTB and although I didn’t do MILD for a few nights because of extreme tiredness, I feel pleased with the fact I was able to stick to a technique for a month.

April Goals:

Recall 45 Dreams (Adding 5 more shouldn’t be a problem I think)
Attain 5 Lucid Dreams (I still want to attain 5 Lucid’s before upping this goal, slow and steady and all that jazz)
Post A Dream In My DV DJ Every Day (I have neglected my online DJ so much, so I hope I can post the memorable dreams that I have, which should hopefully be one or two per day)
Summon And Ride A Dragon (I’ve been watching Game of Thrones, and reading the books, aha)
Eat Something (I haven’t done this, and I’ve heard/read amazing things on it so I’m eager to try it)

I’m going to stick with MILD + WBTB for April as I had some success with it in March. I haven’t attempted WILD, so I may attempt that maybe once or twice in the next month but the main focus will be on MILD + WBTB.

Anyways, I hope everyone have been having a good Easter!

Originally Posted by Tenacious

Ahaha, girlfriend material? We'll see.

My trainer has a video of the fight which I have to look over when I get back into training, I'll see if I can get it and upload it to youtube or something. What I did sounds slick, but when I done it I was panicking so much so it will probably look awkward lol.

Ah dude, that would be sick if you could get it uploaded to Youtube!! I would really dig seeing you put that dude down with a head kick!

Excellent beginning-of-the-month update and goals. You did a great job in March, particularly with the stress and time commitment of training for an MMA fight. I'm sure that April will bring you lots of success as well.

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

Ah dude, that would be sick if you could get it uploaded to Youtube!! I would really dig seeing you put that dude down with a head kick!

Excellent beginning-of-the-month update and goals. You did a great job in March, particularly with the stress and time commitment of training for an MMA fight. I'm sure that April will bring you lots of success as well.

I'm heading back into training tomorrow, so I'll try to smuggle the tape out. And thanks, hopefully April is just as nice to me as March was.

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I haven't had any Lucid Dreams to speak off in the last week, but I've had dreams where I've woke up and thought, "I was on the edge of becoming aware" which can only be a good thing. Since I'm not in training until late in the afternoon tomorrow, I'm able to do a WBTB tonight, so hopefully I can become Lucid tonight. The technique's been good to me so far so here's hoping it continues.

On a side note, I finally finished Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to Inner Self today. I started it ages ago, but my Kindle broke, luckily Amazon were very kind and gave me a new one free of charge, even though it was my fault it broke . Anyway's, I finished it and was adding it to my GReads account when I noticed the girl that I had told about Lucid Dreaming had added Art of Dreaming and Stephen Laberge's Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming to her "to read" section. The Lucid Dream that she had must have piqued her interest even more, but I'll still take credit for introducing her to LD'ing I've already read ETWOLD but I'll try to get my hands on Art of Dreaming and begin reading that.

Originally Posted by Tenacious

I'm heading back into training tomorrow, so I'll try to smuggle the tape out. And thanks, hopefully April is just as nice to me as March was.

Ah nice! Hope you didn't get caught! Let me know if you manage to get that posted up anywhere!

Originally Posted by Tenacious

I haven't had any Lucid Dreams to speak off in the last week, but I've had dreams where I've woke up and thought, "I was on the edge of becoming aware" which can only be a good thing. Since I'm not in training until late in the afternoon tomorrow, I'm able to do a WBTB tonight, so hopefully I can become Lucid tonight. The technique's been good to me so far so here's hoping it continues.

That's great. This means you're close! When my excitement is building and I've got an LD heading my way, I'll tend to get clusters of these. They're pretty cool. Just roll with that excitement and keep those dreams in mind. These are great dreams to use for MILD -- you can walk through the dream again, becoming fully lucid during that moment of "close call".

Originally Posted by Tenacious

On a side note, I finally finished Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to Inner Self today. I started it ages ago, but my Kindle broke, luckily Amazon were very kind and gave me a new one free of charge, even though it was my fault it broke . Anyway's, I finished it and was adding it to my GReads account when I noticed the girl that I had told about Lucid Dreaming had added Art of Dreaming and Stephen Laberge's Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming to her "to read" section. The Lucid Dream that she had must have piqued her interest even more, but I'll still take credit for introducing her to LD'ing I've already read ETWOLD but I'll try to get my hands on Art of Dreaming and begin reading that.

That is awesome! What an excellent lucid ambassador you are! My wife's utterly, totally disinterested in lucid dreaming. I could use your people skills!

^ I managed to obtain the video, I just need to get clearance from the organisation which created the fight, before I upload it to youtube.

I've been extremely busy lately so I haven't been able to put a lot of effort into becoming Lucid. Don't get me wrong, I've been recalling my Dreams and repeating my goals in my head before bed, but I haven't been able to implement any WBTB's or Dream Incubation into my schedule. But after today, my schedule will begin to clear up which should mean more opportunities and more time to dedicate to this awesome hobby, aha.

Also I've had a couple of interesting dreams have happened to me the past week. In one of the dreams I was reading a book and someone came up to me and started tapping the paper. I got some which I can only describe as tingles going from the base of my head going down by spine. It reminded me off a feeling I used to get in primary school when someone would tap on my paper or when we sat on the floor listening to the teacher and the person behind you would start drawing on your back with their finger. I looked this up when I woke up, and apparently it's called Autonomous sensory meridian response (ASMR). Apparently there's a whole community about it and I watched a youtube video involving tapping and scratching which gave me the same tingles. I don't know, just found it interesting that the dream reminded me of something that I had forgotten a long time ago.

Last night, a really strange thing happened to me. I had a dream that there was a snake in my bed, and when I woke up, I think I was half-asleep but I walked over to my dresser and put a t-shirt on and a pair of shorts because I believed that the snake couldn't bite me if I had more clothes on(I usually sleep in just boxers) and I started searching my bed for the snake. I realized what I was doing and just laughed at the what the dream I had was making me do.

Originally Posted by Tenacious

I've been extremely busy lately so I haven't been able to put a lot of effort into becoming Lucid. Don't get me wrong, I've been recalling my Dreams and repeating my goals in my head before bed, but I haven't been able to implement any WBTB's or Dream Incubation into my schedule. But after today, my schedule will begin to clear up which should mean more opportunities and more time to dedicate to this awesome hobby, aha.

Hey there Tenacious. Don't worry about it. At least you are still putting in some effort. You'll be in an even better place when you can put more time into it.

Some really good news. I've had two Lucid's in the last two days. ()

The second was really amazing, the first one not so much but I'm pleased that when I do put the effort into it I seem to get some reward.

I've added them to my Dream Journal if anyone wants to check them out.

I find my problem now is not attaining Lucid Dreams (although now I've said that, watch me not have one for months ), it's prolonging them, stabilizing and controlling them. Ah well, progress!

Originally Posted by Tenacious

Some really good news. I've had two Lucid's in the last two days. ()

congrats.

All right, man, congratulations on the lucid dreams!! That's awesome! I will definitely check those out in your Dream Journal!

And I agree with Xanous -- no worries on not being able to schedule a WBTB. There's absolutely nothing wrong with saving that technique for when you've got a little more time on your hands and the will to pursue slightly more demanding techs like WBTB. As for dream incubation, you could try to just falling asleep thinking non-stop about whatever it is you want to dream about. Same deal if you happen to get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. It's not hardcore dream incubation but also has very low "cost of implementation" beyond doing a little thinking as you drift off.

I'll check the DJ to see more about the stabilization and control issues you had, but generally speaking, that stuff gets much better with practice.

Edit: Also, those ASMR dreams of yours are really interesting! I don't know that I've ever experienced ASMR.

Thanks for the advice!

I've actually got a WBTB planned for tonight so hopefully that heralds a Lucid.

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I was given the idea by Canis to draw a half snake, half dog thing that was in my previous Lucid Dream which is in my dream journal. I'm no expert at drawing, and I couldn't find any paper without lines but I gave it a shot. I put it in a spoiler in case it stretches the page. Also, I just noticed the head is a little big :/

I was surprised about how much of it I was able to remember in regards to the colouring of it. Still need to come up with a name for it, aha.

Spoiler for Pic:

Oh nice! His body looks like a world map, cool.

Originally Posted by paigeyemps

Oh nice! His body looks like a world map, cool.

It does too! That's awesome.. Could be a recurring thing for you! That'd be sweet.

I love the drawing, man! That's great. I can't believe some of the cool stuff that dreams coughs up. A bonus of taking the time to draw it out is that this should really help you retain the memory better.

For anyone that hasn't read it, the inspiration for this drawing was quite an amazing dream. You should definitely check it out. Tenacious had a whole menagerie of cool hybrid animals going on: A Haunted Jog & A Lucid Animal Show - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Originally Posted by paigeyemps

Oh nice! His body looks like a world map, cool.

Hey, you're right!

Not really got anything worthy enough to update this with but I have got a question.

Lately, my normal dreams have been very, for lack of a better word, boring. Mundane perhaps. Basically, what I'd like to know is if anyone has any ideas how I could get them to be more exciting? For example, rather than having a dream about playing football or being in a lecture, have a dream where something different happens rather than the usual things. I don't know if I worded that correctly, but I hope someone managed to understand that.

Originally Posted by Tenacious

Not really got anything worthy enough to update this with but I have got a question.

Lately, my normal dreams have been very, for lack of a better word, boring. Mundane perhaps. Basically, what I'd like to know is if anyone has any ideas how I could get them to be more exciting? For example, rather than having a dream about playing football or being in a lecture, have a dream where something different happens rather than the usual things. I don't know if I worded that correctly, but I hope someone managed to understand that.

I've been there, man! I went through a rash of dreams where I was stuck in a meeting at work. It'd just be me sitting there in a meeting waiting for it to be over. LOL, so boring.

I appealed for help to a few people that have really interesting dream content and the biggest help seemed to be including more diverse, stimulating daytime experiences as often as possible. Basically, I tried playing more video games, being a little more adventurous in my daytime behaviors, reading books and watching movie snippets that involved scenarios that I thought would make for interesting dreaming. Good day residue seems to be the biggest factor.

I also tried to spend time reading dream journals where people have the sorts of dreams I was interested in having. That seemed to help expand my mind as far as what kind of dream content I should expect to produce. Some people have really vivid, interesting dream lives and reading about it is kind of contagious. NewArtemis' journal was particularly helpful because she has a high volume of very vivid adventure and combat dreams with lots of back story, which is a kind of dream that I really enjoy.

Another thing that works for me is strong peppermint tea at WBTB. The menthol (and to a lesser extent menthone) in peppermint tea seems to generate a high volume of dreaming for me. Some people get nightmares from it (not me) while others get somewhat amorous dreams from it (yep, me) but the thing I most commonly experience is just an increase in dreaming and imaginative content. If you're interested in learning more, there's a huge Research thread on it where I and many others still pretty actively turn in peppermint tea experiences: http://www.dreamviews.com/research/1...-enhancer.html

In addition to what CL said... You could try watching something exciting with some great visuals. Doctor Who before bed seems to work great for me. But really it can be anything you like. I think anime is probably the best. Maybe some comic books even. Just an idea. I hope it gets better for you.

I had a pretty good Walking Dead themed Lucid Dream last night. It was probably the most vivid Lucid Dream I have, even the damn bite was really painful.

In other news, I managed to get my hands on some Peppermint Tea today. I don't know how much menthol is in it, but I hope it affects my dreams like it has for others. Although, I may have to find another way of attaining menthol because I'm not the biggest fan of tea. Just going to hope it's an acquired taste.

Originally Posted by Tenacious

I had a pretty good Walking Dead themed Lucid Dream last night. It was probably the most vivid Lucid Dream I have, even the damn bite was really painful.

All right, man, congratulations! Sounds like a really good one. I'm looking forward to reading it!

Originally Posted by Tenacious

In other news, I managed to get my hands on some Peppermint Tea today. I don't know how much menthol is in it, but I hope it affects my dreams like it has for others. Although, I may have to find another way of attaining menthol because I'm not the biggest fan of tea. Just going to hope it's an acquired taste.

Ah, very nice! I've had nice dream enhancement effects from 3-bag brews, but I'm sure that every brand (and every tea-drinker) is different. I've mostly tried mine at WBTB but I think that a number of people have had good results pre-bed as well.

I tried the tea before bed and then another cup during a WBTB. And, it may have just been a placebo effect, or just a coincidence but I had one of the most surreal dreams I've ever had. I'll post it in my Dream Journal along with the Lucid Dream from a couple of days ago when I get home later tonight.

Originally Posted by Tenacious

I tried the tea before bed and then another cup during a WBTB. And, it may have just been a placebo effect, or just a coincidence but I had one of the most surreal dreams I've ever had. I'll post it in my Dream Journal along with the Lucid Dream from a couple of days ago when I get home later tonight.

Ah cool!! Can't wait to check out the DJ entry. You may also want to post the experience in the Menthol research thread! http://www.dreamviews.com/research/1...-enhancer.html

I posted it in my Dream Journal along with the Lucid from a couple days ago if you want to check it out. It was a pretty strange dream, which may have been the menthol or it may not have been, won't know for sure until I try the tea again. There was a brief moment of Lucidity in it which I remembered while I was typing it up.

Last night, I had another Lucid Dream, it wasn't as long or vivid as the zombie one from a couple of nights ago but I done some cool stuff in it. I'll type that up later as well and post that. Getting the hang of this now.

Originally Posted by Tenacious

I posted it in my Dream Journal along with the Lucid from a couple days ago if you want to check it out. It was a pretty strange dream, which may have been the menthol or it may not have been, won't know for sure until I try the tea again. There was a brief moment of Lucidity in it which I remembered while I was typing it up.

Last night, I had another Lucid Dream, it wasn't as long or vivid as the zombie one from a couple of nights ago but I done some cool stuff in it. I'll type that up later as well and post that. Getting the hang of this now.

Awesome, I checked out your DJ entry and commented! That zombie dream was amazing! And now I see that you had another one last night. You are on a serious roll, man! Keep that train running!