Thread: plmnko098's Workbook

Originally Posted by paigeyemps

Originally Posted by Xanous

ADA or really any awareness pracitice is probably the one best things you can do for lucid dreaming. The more lucid you become in the daytime, the more lucid you will be at night. Keep it. It will all pay off soon!

I totally agree! And even better—with awareness, you can be lucid while you're awake, and simply stay lucid once you start dreaming.

I have noticed that my dreams seem a lot more detailed now that I have started to do ADA again. I really wish I could have a lucid dream soon so I have something to compare to what I feel now. Hopefully that would make it easier to lucid dream in the future.

WOOO! I had my 2nd lucid dream last night. To quote part of it from my DJ.

She started talking about someone called Jane. I had no idea who she was talking about so I kind of stopped listening to her. We started walking back towards the school. From what I heard her say, I apparently really like this person called Jane. I don’t even know anyone called Jane so I had no idea what she was talking about. Then she said “You could be with her right now. This could all be a dream”

This got me all confused and I stopped walking. She walked on for about 5 steps further and then stopped when she noticed I wasn’t following anymore. I looked at her confused and then said “Hang on let me check”. I tried to push me fingers through my palm but that failed. I then pinched my nose shut and tried to breathe. To my amazement I could. I instantly knew I was dreaming. I got really excited by this and woke up.

This was the first time in my dream that I was dreaming about dreams and actually thought to see if I was or not. After I become lucid the dream didn’t last very long. I'm guessing because I got really excited and didn't stabilise. I also saw the dream just get pulled away from me. Sounds strange but the dream just seemed to stop and move away like it was a picture moving away from me.

The all-day awareness is starting to pay off because I have started to notice when something seems off but my mind always finds a way to make it seem normal.

The dream was about me walking home from school when this happened. When I walked to school this morning I actually walked that way and I even saw the person I was talking to on the way there. It was so strange because it was so similar to my dream that I had to make sure it wasn't a dream.

See? It really works! Congrats! Good ol nose pinch... I love it!

Originally Posted by Xanous

See? It really works! Congrats! Good ol nose pinch... I love it!

Thanks. Now that I know I can do it I am even more motivated to carry on practicing it.

Lately I have been slacking off when it comes to WILD. I really want to succeed with this technique but I end up waking up to do a WBTB but I end up semi-consciously to just go back to sleep with out thinking most the time.

Yeah it can be tough finding that right balance between sleep and awareness. I am still toying with this but it seems like most of my WILD successes are really late in the morning after a natural but brief awakening. Maybe try it that way if your WBTB fails?

I will try and get back into doing WILD. If it fails I will definitely try your method.

Well I managed to fudge up my sleep pattern over the weekend. Friday night was my brother birthday so I was out quite late. Sunday night I forgot about a history essay I had to write for today until about 10:30pm last night. Both of those meant that I was tired for most of the week end. As a result I was too tired to keep up my ADA that I have been practicing. My dream recall suffered as well but hopefully it didn't dint it too much overall.

Well my dream recall completely went last night. When i woke up i couldn't remember a single thing, not even a slight feeling about a dream.

I tried a WILD again last night. I got up at 3:40am which was about 4.5 hours after i went to sleep. I probably should have slept a bit longer but oh well. I stayed awake until 4:00am and the attempted a WILD. For some reason i couldn't keep my mind focused and it kept wondering off and thinking about other things. I ended up drifting off to sleep after about 10 minutes without meaning to.

I almost had a successful WILD last night without intentionally meaning to. I went to bed earlier than normal at about 9:20pm because I felt really tired. Just as I was at the edge of falling asleep I remembered that I need to tell a friend something tomorrow. I was remembering exactly what I need to tell him when my whole body instantly felt numb. I knew this was my body going to sleep from past experiences. I knew that WILD's before sleep are usually quite poor but I figured I would have a go now since it had already started.

I started doing my usually routine of counting my breaths but it wasn't really working. So I tried something new that I remembered reading on one of the WILD guides. I started to do basic maths problems like 36 x 78. Something that would make me thing about it but not too hard that I can't do in my head. After a few minutes of doing this I started to see some shapes appear and then disappear. I managed to keep myself calm during this which is a huge improvement.

Then a huge screen like that in a cinema faded into my vision. It was quite blurry. Then I started seeing peoples head appear before the screen all looking at the screen. The peoples head gradually got more detailed but it was dark because the only light was from the projector above me. A man stood up and turned around. He had long hair that I think was brown. He was wearing sunglasses but I could tell that he was looking at me. Then everyone started to stand up, turn around and look at me.

I could just tell that I wasn't actually part of this dream because I couldn't move or look around. I was observing the dream from the outside. I tried to enter the dream but I couldn't. I tried for what must have been 10 minutes without any luck. It was at this point where I knew I wasn't getting anywhere and gave up. I woke myself up and wrote this down before going to sleep normally.

I attempted another WILD when I woke up naturally at 4:40. I did a 10 minute WBTB. This WILD was completely usefulness. I just lay there for about 30 minutes without anything happening. I gave up and tried to just go to sleep normally as I had to be up in an hour anyway. I had a hard time falling to sleep normally so I guess this WILD failed because I just wasn't tired enough.

Luckily my dream recall came back last night and I remembered 2 dreams.

I had another DILD last night. I attempted a WILD at 3:40am but I must have fallen asleep by accident without realising. In my dream I was feeling light headed and dizzy so I was lying on the floor with my eyes closed. I then realised that I couldn't remember anything before about 10 minutes ago. I figured that I might be dreaming and pinched my nose. I could breath and I knew I was dreaming. This time I tried to stay calm and I just lay there. I remembered that I should probably stabilise and I tried rubbing my hand across the floor. It turns out that the way I was lying in my dream was the same as the way I was lying in bed and I didn't realise I wasn't dreaming anymore because I still had my eyes closed.

Well for February I have decided to set myself to goals to finished before the end of the month.

Goals

- Have at least 5 lucid dreams
- Have a successful WILD
- Stop waking up straight after I realise i'm dreaming.
- Attempt the Task of The Month tasks


I have a question. When I have realised that I am dreaming in my past two Lucid dreams I have woken up straight away with out doing anything. How can I stop this from happening? It's not like as soon as i become lucid i try and fly. It seems as soon as I realise i'm dreaming my mind just goes nope and wakes me up.

Originally Posted by plmnko098

I have a question. When I have realised that I am dreaming in my past two Lucid dreams I have woken up straight away with out doing anything. How can I stop this from happening? It's not like as soon as i become lucid i try and fly. It seems as soon as I realise i'm dreaming my mind just goes nope and wakes me up.

Are you getting really excited or is it just such a shock that it startles you? Excitement is the fastest way to wake from a lucid dream. I still deal with this issue from time to time. I think all in all staying calm and relaxed during the whole lucid experience will help. And don't worry too much. Those instant awakenings are really common in the beginning. It should get better with more experience.

Other than that may be something beyond your control. Maybe you are just at the end of your REM cycle. Or there may be other unknown factors. Do you try to DEILD when you wake from the lucid? I have salvaged many lucids that way.

My best guess is that it's the shock of realising i'm dreaming that is doing it. I don't really know because for the past couple lucids I have had, as soon as I have realised that i'm dreaming I wake up. I usually don't because it's not really an area that i have looked into much. I will go have a look at a couple of guides on it and see if it will help the next time time it happens.

Had a busy weekend and not had much time to post.

I have started to improve my night routine by including the Dream Incubation from Rarecola'shttp://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-...-lucidity.html I have found that by doing this my dreams have been slowly becoming more vivid. It wasn't very noticeable for a couple of days but i can defiantly tell the difference now.

I have started to notice that i have been dreaming about going to or being in a big shop like a supermarkets recently. I suppose it could be a dream sign but i normally go into a supermarket everyday so it wouldn't really work.

I got really close to having a successful WILD last night. I woke up at 3:40am which was about 5 hours into my sleep. I did a 5 minute WBTB and then attempted a WILD. I find that shortening my WBTB time to about 5 minutes is perfect for me.

Anyway, I lay there while counting my breaths. All of my other attempts seemed to be paying off now because I have learned to lie there, relax and clear my mind. I started seeing some pretty vivid shapes. One thing that really shocked me was at one point I saw 3 flashes of light within about a second along with 3 very loud clicks. This almost made me wake up because it surprised me. I managed to keep calm and carry on with it. Then my left arm started to ache for some reason. I tried to ignore it but it wouldn't go away. I tried very slowly moving my arm to a different position but it didn't help. It started putting me off a lot and I gave up on that attempt. I sat up in bed and my arm carried on aching for a while so I just went to sleep normally.

I truly believe I would have succeeded last night if my arm hadn't decided to start aching.

I suppose it could be a dream sign but i normally go into a supermarket everyday so it wouldn't really work.

I think it would be helpful to RC every time you go to the supermarket. It can't hurt and I think it would work as long as it doesn't become merely habitual and meaningless.

I've had an extremely busy week this week because of school work etc. Therefore I started to lose sleep so my dream recall was basically non existence. All that has now finished for a while so hopefully i can be back into lucid dreaming again and get my dream recall back up to what it was.

Well for the past about week and a half i lost most of my motivation for lucid dreaming. I slowly stop writing down my dreams when i woke up, i stopped doing my ADA practice and gave up on doing a WILD. I thought about just completely giving up because i was getting kinda frustrated that it wasn't working. However, earlier today i decided to give it another go and try my hardest to succeed this time and to not give up. So, heres hoping it all goes well this time.

Hey that's great you are going to give it another shot!

Maybe you should back off the Ada and try to be a little more sporadic. Ada can be killer. It wears me out. That's why I started being more spontaneous with it.

Also maybe you were simply trying too hard. I know that when I try too hard not only do I get stressed but I don't get lucid either.

Just a thought. Good luck to ya!

Originally Posted by Xanous

Hey that's great you are going to give it another shot!

Maybe you should back off the Ada and try to be a little more sporadic. Ada can be killer. It wears me out. That's why I started being more spontaneous with it.

Also maybe you were simply trying too hard. I know that when I try too hard not only do I get stressed but I don't get lucid either.

Just a thought. Good luck to ya!

Thanks!

Maybe i was trying too hard so this time i'm going to take it slow and not rush into it like last time. So for starters i'm going to focus on getting back into my sleep routine and improve my dream recall so that i can reliably recall at least 1 dream per night.

I'm debating on whether to carry on with WILD or to try a different technique. I had a few near successes with WILD but they were few and far between and most of my attempts didn't even get close.

That sounds like a good plan to me. It's important to keep up with the basics more than anything. Maybe continue with WILD but dedicate only 1 or 2 nights to it? I know WILD sounds ideal because its the one technique that makes you feel more in control but it can get very time consuming and frustrating because it takes so much finesse. There's nothing wrong with backing off a technique and putting it on the back burner for a while. Maybe when you feel a little better about it you could go at if full force again. The last thing you want to do is push yourself too hard.

I was thinking that i may try WILD during the weeks ends as to not push myself to do it everyday. Well at least until i can get the hang of it and then maybe do it more times a week when i feel comfortable to do so. But like you said i don't want to push my self too hard and too quickly so i think i will take it slow and see how it works out.

I kinda managed to keep with the sleep routine i set myself. I woke up a little later then i really wanted to but i haven't got school this week and i haven't got to go any where today so it's not all bad. I managed to 2 dreams last night as well.

I had another dream where i was being followed. I have noticed over the last couple of months where i have written down my dreams, i have had a lot of dreams where i am being followed/chased. Last night was the first time that i confronted the thing chasing me. It was a guy with a strange mask. As a result me and the guy with me both got killed when he pulled out a gun and shot us instead of speaking to us. You can read it here if you feel like it 19th February 2013 - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

I woke up naturally about 5 hours into my sleep. I wrote down the dream i remembered and decided i would give WILD a go since i was already awake. It started out pretty well but i think i stayed awake too long as after laying there for what felt like at least an hour or two with out much happening. I opened my eyes and saw that it had been about 40 minutes. I gave up and went back to sleep normally, which also took ages.

I woke up a couple of times during the night and for the first time i remembered to do a RC each time i woke up.

I remembered most of a dream i had last night. It was a weird dream about me getting arrested but no one would tell me why. Although near the dream one thing my DC mum said makes me laugh when ever i think about it. In the dream it was my birthday and I was in a room filled with my family. I was handcuffed and it was deadly serious in the room. Then suddenly my DC mum said "Well, it's been an interesting birthday hasn't it Max". It was just the way she said it that still make me laugh now.

One thing i have carried on from before is that ever night, while falling asleep i always think of a room in my school. I don't know why i started doing it. I think it has something to do with that was the room that i was in when i became lucid for the 3rd and most recent time so i just thought about that when i went to sleep. Anyway, recently that room has appeared in quite a few of my dreams. I was thinking that now when i go back to school next week and i'm in that room i will hopefully remember to do reality checks etc. So that when ever i'm in that room in a dream, my brain will hopefully think about doing reality check. Just something i hope will work but i don;t know. Maybe it won't, but i'm still hopeful.