Thread: 501's Workbook

Just to keep journaling.

No lucids since the last. I have been trying a combination of things from supplements to WILDS with no success. I have been getting better at getting into the deeper stages of WILD. When I have taken the supplements mostly G and C I have a heck of a time getting back to sleep usually. This may be due to excitement but I just think I am fairly sensitive.

I have been able to attempt WILDS in the afternoon for about an hour when I get home from work after the nights of insomnia.

I want to talk about my last WILD attempt a bit since I think it was pretty close and felt really close to where I needed to be. I laid on my back with my arms over my head for awhile and got relaxed, just fleeting thoughts and tried not to think about anything too hard. When I felt relaxed and I felt myself starting to get numb I dropped my hands to my side and after a few more minutes of relaxation I rolled to my side. I have been concentrating on my breathing much more and it really seems to help me relax. So anyways after awhile I usually feel my feet start to do weird things, they will cramp, then come out and then cramp harder, then I feel tingling starting to creep up my legs. At this point my body is pretty numb. I am still aware of it but try to pay no attention. So after my feet do this several times I feel my whole body start to go even number and floaty/ghost-like and about the same time my whole body feels like it is tensing up. I almost start shivering and am tense, this is very un-comfortable but I maintain my breathing and try not to think about it. It is very hard not to focus on it since it is so intense. So I bear through it. It suppresses a bit but then I feel like it is very hard to breathe, I try to push through this but I just cant breath. I flip over and really am struggling to breathe, it feels like I just got done running a mile. It took me a good minute to catch my breath. I don't know if this was subconscious or not but this is going to be a hard point to push through.

After I relax from this I roll back over and decide to try a FILD. I have never tried this before so this is new to me. I started on my side and got a little ways in and then rolled to my back. I kept the finger going and after awhile of tapping on the blanket I couldn't feel the blanket anymore. A couple waves of relaxation passed over me and I am just seeing faint HI like usual, I might have almost seen a dream seen but it seems like my awareness takes over and always makes it go away. My excitement kills it often. Anyways I think I see a scene developing and end up opening my eyes and it is just some pictures in my hotel room.

For the last week or so I have been WBTB with some kind of supplements, sometimes I get back to sleep and sometimes I don't. I have been setting intentions and even saying mantras usually but don't actually try WILD then. Sometimes I have very good recall with supplements, sometimes not. I don't remember a single dream from last night. Tonight I plan on doing a WBTB either at a natural wake time or later. I will stay up, set intention, read some old dreams and then try a WILD. This may be where I am messing up with the G since I expect it to make me have DILDS, which for me have been very hit or miss. I think valerian also makes me too foggy to remember to do a RC in my dream too.

Listening to OpehliaBlue and CanisLucidius pod cast kind of helped. I figure I can WILD at night after WBTB, if that doesn't work or I fall asleep, hope for a DILD and again if that doesn't work try for a DEILD. I do need to practice DEILD since I have only been successful at that once. I usually wake up and move right away.

I have also done reading on the SSILD which I have kind of tried but don't know if I was doing it right. I need to go back and read the tutorial again.

Originally Posted by 501

No lucids since the last. I have been trying a combination of things from supplements to WILDS with no success. I have been getting better at getting into the deeper stages of WILD. When I have taken the supplements mostly G and C I have a heck of a time getting back to sleep usually. This may be due to excitement but I just think I am fairly sensitive.

I used to have a big issue with this as well. My best advice is to try not to think about it, try not to worry about what time it is, whether you'll fall asleep etc.

Just treat the whole thing as an experience. Observe as passively as you can, stay relaxed, and focus on something like calm backward counting. Keep your mind on a slow, relaxed pace. It may still take some time, but if you don't let this worry you, you should hopefully be fine.

Good luck!

Thanks for the information! I have still been trying it off and on during the work week. I think it keeps me up a little more on those nights since I have to be up a decent time. I have been less stressed about it. Laying there relaxing and thinking about dreaming. I realized that even if I don't have lucids I have some pretty kick ass and crazy dreams. I still get surprised when I wake up thinking I hadn't slept and then remember that I just had a dream. Its pretty strange. I enjoy it though. 2mg does it for me though for sure.

Another Lucid last night but again just a short one. Once I gained lucidity I came out. Still forgot to stabilize. I am going to lay off sleepy meds during the week. I may do a 5htp and G with C but no melatonin and valerian. I think I need to work on a different WBTB routine that really gets me in the mind set. I need to really set the goals.

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