Thread: Rallan's Workbook

The last two nights I did WBTB and did body + breath awareness while falling asleep. Whenever I noticed I was lost in thought I would bring myself by wondering if I'm dreaming yet, which I would answer by checking my body position and the feeling of gravity. I'm having a break from SSILD at the moment because it was feeling way too forced and hence lost it's enjoyment. I may come back to it, but I'm not going to force myself as that leads to headaches, insomnia and probably bad dreams!

I've had lucid dreams both times! The night before last was crazy confusing. I'm quite certain that I did a WILD. I say quite, because some of my dreams throughout the morning I was trying to fall asleep meditating just as I was doing awake, which also seemed to feature quite intense body sensation, so It's unclear sometimes when I was dreaming! To the best of my memory, I entered the dream consciously after some intense energy feelings and loud ringing, was in blackness wondering where the dream was, assumed it hadn't worked, then walked out of the airport bathroom and rode off in my leather wheelchair I'll know next time to be more vigilant! So that one didn't quite work, but later in the morning the same thing happened but this time I did a noseplug straight away!

This morning I had two lucid dreams, both which started as usual with me just suddenly realising I'm dreaming. The second was similar to a few other borderline non-lucid dreams I've had where I know I'm in a dream, but I don't have access to much of my memory and so make some or many false assumptions about the nature of the dream. This morning I believed the dream characters that I recognised were real people sharing my dream. In others, I've believed that the last dream I was just having was reality, so that I'm in a dream within a dream where I've forgotten the first dream was a dream! In those ones I would probably say I'm not lucid at all, more like I'm dreaming I'm lucid. I behave how I would knowing that it was a dream (treating things as if they're not real, knowing I'm going to wake up at some point, sometimes even trying my dream plan), but have little to no self awareness. Any tips on how to catch things like this? I'm guessing the 'lucid dream dreams' are harder to prevent due to having no self awareness, and I'm not sure I'd want to stop them as they've so far been very enjoyable and nourishing! But I'd certainly like to not get caught by thinking dream characters are somehow the real people in my dream!

I'm going to have a break from dream views for at least a few days so I can focus just on my practice, as I feel I have plenty knowledge now and would benefit from seeing where I go with it. I'm cautious of spending too much time reading about lucid dreaming and getting into that 'knowledge hoarding' frame of mind where you rely too much on information and technique and not enough on your own practice and experience.

Thank you again for all your excellent advice! See you later!

Originally Posted by Rallan

The last two nights I did WBTB and did body + breath awareness while falling asleep. Whenever I noticed I was lost in thought I would bring myself by wondering if I'm dreaming yet, which I would answer by checking my body position and the feeling of gravity. I'm having a break from SSILD at the moment because it was feeling way too forced and hence lost it's enjoyment. I may come back to it, but I'm not going to force myself as that leads to headaches, insomnia and probably bad dreams!

It's great to hear that the modified tech is equally effective and possibly less disturbing for you. Congrats on the lds!

This morning I had two lucid dreams, both which started as usual with me just suddenly realising I'm dreaming. The second was similar to a few other borderline non-lucid dreams I've had where I know I'm in a dream, but I don't have access to much of my memory and so make some or many false assumptions about the nature of the dream. This morning I believed the dream characters that I recognised were real people sharing my dream. In others, I've believed that the last dream I was just having was reality, so that I'm in a dream within a dream where I've forgotten the first dream was a dream! In those ones I would probably say I'm not lucid at all, more like I'm dreaming I'm lucid. I behave how I would knowing that it was a dream (treating things as if they're not real, knowing I'm going to wake up at some point, sometimes even trying my dream plan), but have little to no self awareness. Any tips on how to catch things like this? I'm guessing the 'lucid dream dreams' are harder to prevent due to having no self awareness, and I'm not sure I'd want to stop them as they've so far been very enjoyable and nourishing! But I'd certainly like to not get caught by thinking dream characters are somehow the real people in my dream!

I see. Some people say these are not really lucid dreams, others call them semi-lucid or low level lucid. I personally like to examine my awareness under the microscope and if I find some, usually conclude that, yes, there was some awareness present so it can be considered a low level ld. One of the things to do on such occasions is to learn to detach oneself as much as possible from the dreaming scenario. Assert to yourself or say to other DCs that this is a dream. This can help bring you closer to your daytime awareness and you may even recall some goals you wanted to do. Goals in general are another great way to detach from the dream scenario.

Have a great lucid time!