Constant Sleep Paralysis & Vivid Lucid Nightmares - HELP?!

**Saffron** · 03-22-2011 02:08 AM

This is my first post on here so hey-hey everyone. (:
This is a little long-winded though, sorry. ):

But anyways okay...so I am aware that in order to induce a pleasant lucid dream, one must first enter sleep paralysis, i.e. "mind awake, body asleep". But the thing is, I suffer from sleep paralysis and have done since I was very young..
For me, the paralysis is accompanied with horrific hallucinations and screaming in my head. I hear people laughing maniacally and kids crying and stuff. It's very frightening.
I literally have to fight with my body to regain mobility. If I fail to regain mobility, I slip into a vivid lucid dream, but I mean...they're disturbing. A lucid dream to me means a terrifying nightmare. I woke up once (at least I thought I was awake..) and went to the kitchen to get some water, only to discover my family skinned and battered, hanging from meat-hooks attached to the ceiling. These are the kinda lucid dreams I have.
I've even been to the doctor about it on serveral occasions 'cause it's severly disrupting my daily life due to the fact I can't sleep at night.
I go to bed at night praying I don't lucid dream or enter paralysis.
But, reading through posts on here I've come across other people's accounts of their lucid dreams and they sound amazing!
So....what's going on??
If anybody has any insight into this, I would be extremely grateful as this is a really big problem. Bed-time is, and always has been, a scary prospect for me.. ):

**dakotahnok** · 03-22-2011 02:18 AM

The skinned family on meat hooks doesn't sound like a lucid dream... At least with the information that you gave.

There are different ways to have lucid dream that don't include sleep paralysis.

As far as stopping your sleep paralysis I'm not to sure. Your Deffinitly doing the right thing by going to a doctor. Because this IS a sleep disorder.

**Saffron** · 03-22-2011 02:36 AM

Really? There are different ways of inducing a lucid dream?
I'm really new to this whole thing, to be honest.
All I know is that in the dreams, I am aware of what's happening and I can partly feel myself in bed.
I'm not sure what's going on really.
I have been to the doctor, but unfortunatly it's not much help.
I've never been diagnosed with a sleeping disorder but I have been diagnosed with depression and an anxiety disorder so maybe this has something to do with it? I'm really not sure, though. I've been getting this since I was very young and I really don't think I was depressed as a little kid!
But thank you very much for the reply!
I need to do more research.

**dakotahnok** · 03-22-2011 02:56 AM

Yeah that's not a lucid dream. I lucid dream is were you know that your dreaming and can do whatever you want. Read some blue and purple parts In my dream journal... That will give you an idea of a lucid dream. http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/dakotahnok/

Yes there is MILD mnemonically induced lucid dreams, DILD dream induced lucid dream, DEILD dream exit induced lucid dreams, WBTB wake back to bed, WILD wake induced lucid dream, CAT cycle adjustment technique, FILD figure induced lucid dream, EILD electronically induced lucid dreams.... And many more.

Take a look at out wiki for an explication of the methodes listed above.

Try going to a different doctor because waking up with sleep paralysis is Normal if it's occasional. But if it's often then it should be diagnosed as a sleep disorder.

**Perlinfalcon** · 03-22-2011 02:58 AM

So much of what makes up dreams has to do with expectation. You have had many years of negative associations with sleep paralysis and lucid dreams, so of course your experiences continue to be negative. For most people, sleep paralysis becomes a frightening experience because the person experiencing it doesn't understand what is going on. Of course it is frightening to wake up and realize you can't move, so you start to panic, which causes negative and nightmarish images to appear. The more times this happens, the more you expect it to happen, so all of the experiences involving sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming become terrifying.

One possible way to deal with this is to realize that lucid dreams can be a wondrously positive and beautiful experience. Anything you can imagine is possible. Have you ever had a really nice dream? Or a really beautiful or exciting one? A lucid dream can be a good dream if you go in expecting it to be so. Try imagining what you would LIKE to dream about next time you are lucid. Concentrate on it every moment you get the chance. Then, when you get sleep paralysis, just realize that is what you have to go through to get to your positive fantasy. You might have to go through some scary stuff, but just realize that it is all in your head and can't harm you, and that if you want to you can just fly out the window or through the door and the entire dreamworld is yours. Remember, you are the supreme ruler of your dream world!

**dakotahnok** · 03-22-2011 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by Perlinfalcon

So much of what makes up dreams has to do with expectation. You have had many years of negative associations with sleep paralysis and lucid dreams, so of course your experiences continue to be negative. For most people, sleep paralysis becomes a frightening experience because the person experiencing it doesn't understand what is going on. Of course it is frightening to wake up and realize you can't move, so you start to panic, which causes negative and nightmarish images to appear. The more times this happens, the more you expect it to happen, so all of the experiences involving sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming become terrifying.

One possible way to deal with this is to realize that lucid dreams can be a wondrously positive and beautiful experience. Anything you can imagine is possible. Have you ever had a really nice dream? Or a really beautiful or exciting one? A lucid dream can be a good dream if you go in expecting it to be so. Try imagining what you would LIKE to dream about next time you are lucid. Concentrate on it every moment you get the chance. Then, when you get sleep paralysis, just realize that is what you have to go through to get to your positive fantasy. You might have to go through some scary stuff, but just realize that it is all in your head and can't harm you, and that if you want to you can just fly out the window or through the door and the entire dreamworld is yours. Remember, you are the supreme ruler of your dream world!

I should have added this as well.

But as far as making the LD's good I don't think that she is having lucid dreams.

**Perlinfalcon** · 03-22-2011 03:26 AM

It is possible they are not lucid dreams, but she did state that she knows what is going on and knows that she is in bed. Remember, lucidity does not always mean that you control what is going on, especially if you are not aware that is possible. Many people, myself included, have had lucid nightmares. Before I read up on lucid dreaming, I thought my only way to get out of a nightmare was to wake myself up, which is not always that easy. I didn't realize that I could control my dreams until last year, so I never did. Lucid nightmares when you aren't educated in dream control are just as bad if not worse than non-lucid ones.

**Codename** · 03-22-2011 03:50 AM

Its possible to overcome these terrible dreams. You might have an "old hag" disorder. What you need to do is overcome these nightmares. turn them into beautiful lucid dreams by literally combating them and overcoming your fears. If you can trump your nightmares you can have lucid dreams instead of nightmares.

**Winamp** · 03-22-2011 11:14 AM

When I sleep there is ''mind asleep, body awake''

I have never entered a sleep paralysis, because I think that my body never really fall asleep

My brother says that I in the middle of the night jump out of the bed and start talking to him

And there was cases when my dream was ending, example if I tried to shoot ball in my dream with my leg, I will in real life punch my leg into the wall

So, I haven't had any expiriences with SP but if you expect they will be frightening, they will be.
When you enter a SP they will be hallucinations and wierd noices, but if you aware that they cannot harm you, in short time you will enter into a dream

**MagsJuco** · 04-08-2012 11:52 AM

I used to be able to actually wake myself up from a bad/scary dream when I was a kid. I would always remember that it's just a dream and just wake myself up like just open my eyes. But now it's the complete opposite. It's very difficult to wake up or move when I go into sleep paralysis which happens on a monthly basis now.