WILD Help!

**Drax** · 06-20-2011 10:08 PM

Hi there guys its me again. I've started averaging an LD a night now, and I am able to remember roughly 1-3 dream a night. I just want to state that the first thing I ever attempted for lucid dreaming was WILDing, sadly with little knowledge I attempted WILDing without WBTB for about a week.

After that week of failure, I started reading in-depth tutorials on this forum, I noticed a lot of my mistakes with WILDing, including the absence of WBTB. From there I've been trying on and off, still with no success. I'm very much worried of two facts, firstly that my initial week of failure has had substantial impact on my WILD dry-spell and secondly, that I am still WILDing incorrectly.

My method as of now is to wake up at 4:30pm which is roughly 5 and a half hours into my sleep cycle. I stay up for about 20 minutes, seems to be a good time, anything after that and I become too alert. Then I lay on my back and perform the Tense/Limp Relaxation Technique which works wonders. I used to start counting instantly, which I've now discovered is a mistake, now instead I wait and let my mind wander, problem with me, like others, is that I don't have any audio or hypnagogic queues for when to know I've hit stage 3 of sleep.

Its worth noting that I once accidentally rolled over when I woke up and think I experienced a semi-DIELD. I saw a hypnagogic pattern in my head and felt SP. From that experience I know what SP feels like, so even without the queues the second I feel the vibrations confirming SP's onset, I begin my count. The problem is I'm often easily taken aback my hypnic jerks and I am very easily distracted by the feeling my breathing is stopping, even though I'm relaxed and not panicking or over-excited I feel it hard to remain distracted, this whole conflict seems to keep me far too alert. Coupled by the fact I'm worried about being too alert

. More often or not I just get annoyed by the fact I'm not reaching SP and just roll over and sleep.

I'm just looking for some more detailed information on what each stage feels like, I know it differs from person to person, but its hard for me to know when to perform my count. Plus I cannot for the life of me, keep myself distracted when I notice my breathing (its fine when I don't pay attention to it). Also are there any tips on what a good count or method of distraction would be, I struggle with visualizing a dream-scene, yet I still feel counting is insufficient; if you guys could share your methods and success that would be awesome

**INeverWakeUp** · 06-20-2011 10:13 PM

Well, maybe the WILD isn't your thing. There are many many methods to lucid dreaming. I'm not an experienced WILDer(WILD count 1

). But if u dont have any success with it, try DEILD, or DILD, or MILD. I've had good success with does. And DILD's better for beginners than WILD. I hope I helped!

**Cethulsus** · 06-21-2011 02:23 AM

You shouldn't really start with these. I tried to when I first started LDing, but then realized that I was far better off with DILDs or MILDs. But it's all up to you

**~~DeletePlease~~** · 06-21-2011 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Puffin

2) WILD - "Wake Induced Lucid Dream"

The person goes directly into the dreaming state from a waking state. This involves relaxing to trick your body into falling asleep, while you consciously observe the dream formation process and its stages, one of which stages is sleep paralysis. You often experience hallucinations as the dream forms, which are typically not observed because the person is usually unconscious by the time they happen - however, the point of a WILD is to remain conscious while your mind creates a dream, so you get a front-row seat in this process. The person is aware as soon as they enter the dream. WILDs can be done on demand and there is no randomness in when you will have one, since you are purposefully inducing one yourself. They also tend to be more vivid than DILDs.

WILDs are difficult to achieve without prior sleep that night; therefore, it's best to combine it with the WBTB technique (see below) and do a WILD after 5 - 6 hours of sleep, or during the day with a nap.

* Sleep paralysis (abbreviated SP) is the total or near-total paralysis of one's body during REM sleep, which is a safety mechanism to prevent the person from acting out their dreams. It can sometimes be accompanied by feelings of "rushing", vibrations along the body or in isolated areas, whispering, thumping noises, and other auditory and visual hallucinations which may be rather frightening at times. It is all produced by the mind so it is totally harmless, but it helps to read up on other peoples' experiences so you know what to expect before trying the WILD technique out. Although, some people may not experience any sleep paralysis symptoms.

There are three outcomes in a WILD:
1. the dreamer may become too focused on any hallucinations they're experiencing or become overexcited, and snap out of the dream transition prematurely which negates the attempt.
2. the dreamer will be thrown into a dream scene - success!
3. the dreamer may believe they failed the attempt, but are actually in a false awakening, or a dream in which the person only believes they've woken up. If they perform a reality check and discover they're dreaming, success!

Once in the dream, or even if they think they may have failed the WILD, the person performs a reality check.

Average dream clarity/vividness - 7.5/10
Average awareness - 8.5/10

Resources:
Official Dreamviews WILD Tutorial
Jeff777's Free-Falling WILD Technique
Mind Awake, Body Asleep - Sleep Paralysis Induction Tutorial
KingYoshi's WILD Technique
Naiya's DILD and WILD Secrets
Seeker's The Five Phases of WILD
Mzzkc's Comprehensive WILD Guide
Mzzkc's Why You Fail at WILDs
Billybob's WILD - The Guide to End All Guides
AllInYourHead's How to Fail a WILD

Mzzkc's Why You Fail At WILDs was pretty helpful when I was just learning the technique but be sure to check the other ones as well.