Hi, I'm new to DV and LD. Also have Questions and an Experience to Share

**MindMaster** · 06-24-2012 03:10 AM

Hi!

I'm new to DV. (Like that wasn't already obvious!) I found this site through searching around online. I was trying to find the best site, and DV is it. : ) I liked exploring the site, and starting my online DJ. (Already has 2 posts.) I also have my physical paper DJ in my bedroom. I don't know how I first got interested in LD, but I think it was because of Wikipedia. There are so many links in the articles and before you know it your reading about something totally unrelated. So far I have been trying WILD and just started also trying FILD. Last night was the closest I had ever got due to WILD, but I did something pretty stupid. I thought I heard my phone receive a text and I got distracted since I figured there was the possibility it was actually my phone.. If I knew for sure it wasn't I wouldn't have gotten distracted. Well, to calm my self I just had to check my phone... and in the process mess up my best chance yet. Lose lose situation : (

Well tonight I'm going to try the W/FILD techniques again.

I do have a question:
How important is it that I try to do these things during REM or just as REM is starting?
And so how do I calculate my sleep cycles and figure out when REM will occur? (Since I know age matter's I will say that I'm a teenager.)

If you want to know about the first two times I had a LD you should go to my About Me Bio. I was young when they happened and both intentional... and also very short! Now that I think of it, I was also unintentional lucid. The setting was the atrium of a cruise ship and it was tipping and I started to lose my lucidity. Now that I think of it (hehe), I may of had a fourth lucid dream that involved escalators and platforms! I know I was lucid during it. I love how my mind works! Thinking about certain thoughts allows me to remember other thoughts! somehow...

ANYWAYS, I have had many dreams that would built off of a previous dream that had occurred weeks or months in the past. I would remember facts or ideas from the first dream and place was also very much the same. Is that normal? I know for a fact that these are separate dreams, NOT my mind just thinking I was like there before. I said that because what I just said it NOT is happens to other people, and for them, that what it is.

Anyways, I might sign up to be adopted. From the few things you know about me, would that be something that I should do?

I think I'm forgetting something, I'll post it if when I remember and thanks for taking the time to read this.

**OctoberWind** · 06-24-2012 03:46 AM

Hey! Welcome to dv, you'll meet lots of cool people here. Don't worry about your WILD attempt, don't see it as a failure, see it as a learning experience.

Sleep cycles usually occur in 90 minute intervals, REM usually being the last part, so just add 10 minutes to when you go to bed (10 is the average it takes people to fall asleep, if you know how long it takes you to sleep, then use that number) after that go by 90 minute intervals. If you don't wake up from a dream cycle then, slightly adjust your time until you get it, 90 isn't a perfect number since all people are different, so chances are that you may need a bit of experimenting.

Sorry, I didn't quite understand your first question so I can't be of much help.

Being adopted is a great idea, finding someone to focus on you.

Overall, you seem off to a great start. Keeping up a dj is probably the most important part, so continue with that. My advice to you is to do reality checks whenever something seems off and stay positive!

I wish you the best of luck, and if you need any more help, feel free to ask- not just me but anyone here. I promise, most of us don't bite.

**MindMaster** · 06-24-2012 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by OctoberWind

Hey! Welcome to dv, you'll meet lots of cool people here. Don't worry about your WILD attempt, don't see it as a failure, see it as a learning experience.

Sleep cycles usually occur in 90 minute intervals, REM usually being the last part, so just add 10 minutes to when you go to bed (10 is the average it takes people to fall asleep, if you know how long it takes you to sleep, then use that number) after that go by 90 minute intervals. If you don't wake up from a dream cycle then, slightly adjust your time until you get it, 90 isn't a perfect number since all people are different, so chances are that you may need a bit of experimenting.

Wait.. If my sleep cycle was exactly 90 minutes and lets just pretend I fell asleep instantly, wouldn't I have to set my alarm for a multiple of 90 and then subtract 20 or so minutes so to wake up before REM is over?
And thanks for the advice! I like how you said to look upon it btw.

And to anyone out there, I remembered what it was going to ask. Will background noise such as a fan or noise from a open window affect my F/WILD attempts at all?

And just to share this, a few months back, I had a false awakening. At the time, I did not know it was a false awakening and I thought I had just woke up for real. My dad was in my bedroom and I said what are you doing in here. He was tinkering with my laptop! Now, this is the really cool and bizarre coincidence: When I woke up in the morning, I resumed my laptop from sleep mode and guess what happened The hard drive crashed. Boot Manager error and then the noises.. they make your heart sink.

The chances of that happening!!! It was my first false awakening that I can remember... but what happened.. what are the chances of that!

**OctoberWind** · 06-24-2012 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by MindMaster

Wait.. If my sleep cycle was exactly 90 minutes and lets just pretend I fell asleep instantly, wouldn't I have to set my alarm for a multiple of 90 and then subtract 20 or so minutes so to wake up before REM is over?
And thanks for the advice! I like how you said to look upon it btw.

Yeah, but you want you REM cycle to at least start, that way you can get some dreams in before you wake up. Also, the further into the night, the longer your REM cycles will become.

Originally Posted by MindMaster

And to anyone out there, I remembered what it was going to ask. Will background noise such as a fan or noise from a open window affect my F/WILD attempts at all?

And just to share this, a few months back, I had a false awakening. At the time, I did not know it was a false awakening and I thought I had just woke up for real. My dad was in my bedroom and I said what are you doing in here. He was tinkering with my laptop! Now, this is the really cool and bizarre coincidence: When I woke up in the morning, I resumed my laptop from sleep mode and guess what happened The hard drive crashed. Boot Manager error and then the noises.. they make your heart sink.

The chances of that happening!!! It was my first false awakening that I can remember... but what happened.. what are the chances of that!

No, your fan shouldn't be too much of a problem, as sp progresses- your mind will filter it out as background noise. That isn't issue there.

As to that last part, crazy stuff happens in dreams that is related to waking life. I know of a person who dreamt he was fixing a computer for his friend's mom, then the next day she called him up to ask if he could fix her laptop.

Awesome you could experience the weirdness.

**Sivason** · 06-24-2012 05:13 AM

Welcome to Dream Views! Try not to over think the process. 4 cycles, the first 3 taking maybe 4.5 hours, time added for variation in sleep quality, and the standard time comes out to 4.5 - 6 hours after you sleep. After the first 3 nREM cycles it is much less stable and REM can occur at any point, so you can try at 7 or 8 jours if you have the time and can sleep that much. Just experiment until you get a feel for it.
If you do a WILD attempt and are not in the correct sleep phase you can still create lucid dreams and dream like images and feelings. They are never very vivd and the action is missing with few DCs. People can play around with any dream that happens during a WILD but nREM dreams will not be the vivid exciting types.