Hey guys, I learned about LDs from my brother about a month/month and a half ago. We were talking about SP and how we use to get it as a kid, and then he explained to me how it's pretty much the holy grail for OBEs and LDs. I was skeptical at first because I didn't think something like SP in all of its horribleness could actually benefit me in some way. Although i've had close to if not exceeding 100+ SP events in my life, not one time have I experienced anything like an LD or OBE.

I have SP occasionally(all upon awakening), about 1 or more per month, but I cannot seem to induce SP on my own accord. I've tried laying still waiting for vibrations or a hypnagogic hallucination and I get nothing. I try every night and also when I take a nap during the day. I've also tried WBTB into SP but still nothing.

My question to anyone reading this is "should I try to skip the SP process entirely?" and if so how can I skip the SP process while still inducing LDs and OBEs?