Is paralysis normal? Please help!

[HawaiianDreamin]

I am new to trying to enduce lucid dreams, though I've had a few spontaneously before. For last few days I've been trying MILD and last night I finally realized I was in a dream but no good came of it.... I am in the house alone- I dreamt my room mate came home and I was talking to her. As we were talking I went to do a reality check on a nearby microwave clock (been practicing this during the day) and as soon as I decided to look (never even got to see it) I realized I was in a dream but my heart started racing and everything switched to slow motion and I could feel myself being pulled from the dream (heart has never raced that fast in past lucid dreams). I tried to stay calm but I was instantly pulled and awoke on the couch. Here is where it gets awful... After laying "awake" on the couch for a few moments I went to do another reality check on my phone...again as soon as I decided this the adrenaline kicked in again and I realized I was dreaming, though this time I could not move. I was experiencing sleep paralysis. i thought I could hear my room mate talking to her boyfriend but I mostly heard loud ringing and a lot of jumbled voices coming out of no where. I tried yelling "clarity!" But I could not open my mouth and was barely breathing, my vision was very cloudy. I tried spinning, I felt the sensation but nothing happened. Full on panic set in. My room mate was about to leave and I could not signal her. I could not move or hardly breath or make a noise. Eventually I made my labored breathing louder, she could not hear it. I mumbled, she heard nothing. I finally managed to sit up, reach toward her, and pathetically squeak out her name. When I awoke I was still laying on the couch and no one was here. I don't know if I actually yelled or not. Is experiencing sleep paralysis a normal result when attempting lucidity?? Because I wasn't very fond of it and would rather not enduce it again.

[FadingLD]

While I have only recently started with lucid dreaming again, I'd say that in this case it's a normal occurrence. Sometimes it just so happens that you experience this after awakening from an LD I guess.

[dolphin]

It's rare but normal.

[spellbee2]

Sleep paralysis is actually pretty rare, although it does occur sometimes when trying to lucid dream. Here's a thread you might want to check out about the subject: http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...explained.html To sum it up, during the normal process of falling asleep, your body experiences what's called REM atonia - basically all your muscles "shut down" so you don't accidentally act out your dreams in real life. Usually you don't notice this happen, as you're usually already asleep before it does. However, sometimes (especially when trying to WILD) your mind is awake when REM atonia kicks in, causing what is often (incorrectly) called Sleep Paralysis. Sometimes though, the opposite happens - you wake up before REM atonia wears off, hence the SP upon waking up. However, the vast majority of the time this sleep paralysis happens during a dream, but they seem so realistic that we just might not know it at the time. This sounds like your case, as you said no one was there when you woke up. Personally, in 2 and a half years of lucid dreaming, I've had SP twice, and only once was it scary (for about 5 seconds, until I realized it was SP).

[Mantic]

Just gonna point out, sleep paralysis has nothing to do with lucid dreaming. Either you are in the dream state and having spells cast upon you in the form of clouds from the "deep", and you are in the dream, or you're awake and the same thing happens but it is much different and you can't just "wake up" from it. Both have nothing to do with being lucid, because you can't control it until you're stronger then the spells cast upon you, you'd have to have faith in the holy spirit to rid of these entities to efficiently get out of any paralysis spells/traps. It's not all in your head either, unless of course it happens in a false awakening (that's an astral attack), but if you're not asleep and it happens, that's a very different story and if that's ever the case you should check out this video. Being naive about events such as these is something that everyone inevitably regrets because it's not an event you can just ignore. Also if you're not religious and this is happening, that should serve to disclose what religion is about, and if this happens more than once, I would recommend getting a spiritual cleanse of your house, using techniques such as Sage burning, etc. These aren't just superstitions. *Video with prohibited links to commercial products for sale removed*

[gab]

Just gonna point out, sleep paralysis has nothing to do with lucid dreaming. Either you are in the dream state and having spells cast upon you in the form of clouds from the "deep", and you are in the dream, or you're awake and the same thing happens but it is much different and you can't just "wake up" from it. Both have nothing to do with being lucid, because you can't control it until you're stronger then the spells cast upon you, you'd have to have faith in the holy spirit to rid of these entities to efficiently get out of any paralysis spells/traps. It's not all in your head either, unless of course it happens in a false awakening (that's an astral attack), but if you're not asleep and it happens, that's a very different story and if that's ever the case you should check out this video. Being naive about events such as these is something that everyone inevitably regrets because it's not an event you can just ignore. Also if you're not religious and this is happening, that should serve to disclose what religion is about, and if this happens more than once, I would recommend getting a spiritual cleanse of your house, using techniques such as Sage burning, etc. These aren't just superstitions. blizzardesign - I'm officially asking you to stop spreding misinformation about SP on this forum. You are welcomed to your opinion, ofc. But... There is so much misinformation out there about SP and novice lucid dreamers come here for information about it. We, the community and staff of Dreamviews decided that it's time to dispell all those misinformations. So few years ago we collected our experiences and knowledge about SP and lucid dreaming and this thread is the result. http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...explained.html Another great thread bout it http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...mystified.html We don't censor what our members post (except spam and such). But we reserve the right to not host any ideas like the one you are presenting, because it's so damaging to the psyche or a dreamer. Dreams are what we believe and expect. So if someone expects a bad experience, he will likely have a bad one. And vice versa. It really depends on an individual and his state of mind.

[Mantic]

blizzardesign - I'm officially asking you to stop spreding misinformation about SP on this forum. You are welcomed to your opinion, ofc. But... There is so much misinformation out there about SP and novice lucid dreamers come here for information about it. We, the community and staff of Dreamviews decided that it's time to dispell all those misinformations. So few years ago we collected our experiences and knowledge about SP and lucid dreaming and this thread is the result. http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...explained.html Another great thread bout it http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...mystified.html We don't censor what our members post (except spam and such). But we reserve the right to not host any ideas like the one you are presenting, because it's so damaging to the psyche or a dreamer. Dreams are what we believe and expect. So if someone expects a bad experience, he will likely have a bad one. And vice versa. It really depends on an individual and his state of mind. I completely understand where you're coming from, and of course this is simply my opinion, which i've concluded based on multiple sources of external evidence that lead me to this conclusion. But how do you know that psychological explanations are simply physical, and have no spiritual side to them? I just find it interesting because topics like these are what religions talk about, people seeing the physical but being blind to the spiritual. There's no way to prove that what chris white believes is misinformation, just like that threads claims. Again i'm not trying to push my opinion, but how can one be conclusively sure that either interpretation is misinformation? I'm just sharing what I've come to notice and be aware of, and I'm not the one judging opinions and saying they "are spreading shit about SP". I'm simply looking for the truth about this topic, and regardless of bias or mass appeal i'm willing to stay open minded towards what you're saying, and the other pole.

[gab]

Again i'm not trying to push my opinion, but how can one be conclusively sure that either interpretation is misinformation? This is something you can discuss in the Extended discussion forum, if you are interested.

[Mantic]

This is something you can discuss in the Extended discussion forum, if you are interested. alright, here it is, if you're interested. http://www.dreamviews.com/extended-d...ml#post2161811

[Kaan]

Stop telling shit about SP please. SP and REM atonia are simple physiological phenomenons you don't have to really be scared about.

[Sageous]

Here's another excellent thread you might want to look at, HawaiianDreamin: Sleep Paralysis Demystified

[SearcherTMR]

I tried spinning, I felt the sensation but nothing happened. When you experienced PS: 1. You were dreaming and NOT awake (consider the DC you saw) 2. You were scared So, if this happens again: 1. Simply REALIZE this is just a dream where you dream of being paralyzed (and so you are scared) and this will calm you down and make you Lucid. 2. Convert it into an enjoyable lucid by either: a) Simply imagining that you lif out of your body (rolling as you tried to do, might actually also work if you calm down first). A useful trick is to change imaginary movements until one works and throws you out - but if you are calm it usually works right away. B) Closing your (dream) eyes - if you have the courage to do so - and imagine a beautiful place around you. You will soon start listening and then seeing the new dream scenario...