SIOE (slip in and out experience) for lucid dreaming or OBEs

**SammyTusturize** · 02-09-2010 04:04 AM

Okay, I haven't tried to get into a lucid dream, but here's something I want to take advantage of... It's what I like to call the SIOE. (slip in and out experience) You know when you're just laying there, trying to get to sleep, but you start hearing voices and other things about every 7 seconds? That's what I'm talking about. Here are the two methods I recommend to get there...

Method #1: Lay down in any comfortable position and relax yourself. DON'T MOVE AT ALL. Imagine yourself in the air with your legs and arms spread. Now, visualize yourself flying forward at EXTREME SPEED. Feel the wind and hear it. This will probably cause you to feel over-heated (nervous heat) and your heart might feel like it's beating a lot faster. It's very easy to go along with it. Now, here's where it gets a bit tricky, but still fairly easy. What you need to do is keep yourself concentrated on the visualization. Keep yourself in the visualization and don't get out of it. What I mean is that you need to keep your thoughts away from your physical senses and to keep your thoughts on your visualization. After that, you should probably do method 2.

Method #2: (By my friend, Bryson Garrett) For about 2 minutes, think about something that you really love. Let your conscience speak about the certain thing and stuff. After you've concluded your little loved-one thing, breathe slowly and count your breaths. When you get to about 50 to 100, you should be pretty dozey. Do you hear the voices or sounds? If so, good. I'm going to try and take advantage of this tonight.

TAKING ADVANTAGE: After you've heard maybe 7 hallucinations, try taking advantage of the SIOE by thinking about what you'd like to dream about. Remain calm and before doing that, make your conscience say that you will remain calm when you get in the dream. When you get in the dream, STAY CALM and you should remain in it. Let me know if this worked and what you did.

**morbid73** · 02-09-2010 04:14 AM

Sounds like WILD (Wake Induced Lucid Dream). The hallucinations part, I guess that would be related to SP (Sleep Paralysis).

**Snowy Egypt** · 02-09-2010 04:16 AM

Method #2 is a Wake-Initiated-Lucid-Dream. #1 is a branch of WILD called a Visually-Induced-Lucid-Dream.

**rose_red** · 02-09-2010 04:26 AM

They are both, as Snowy said, WILD techniques, but the first one sounds like a variation I've heard called the Tactile Assisted WILD. It basically works as you've described it, and while I've not successfully done a WILD, it works for me trying to immerse myself into a meditational visualization. I usually prefer spinning or running to flying, but that's just me.

All the Best,
rR

**nina** · 02-09-2010 02:28 PM

Can we make a new rule against user created acronyms to avoid confusion?

Btw welcome to the forum!

**SammyTusturize** · 02-09-2010 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by morbid73

Sounds like WILD (Wake Induced Lucid Dream). The hallucinations part, I guess that would be related to SP (Sleep Paralysis).

It is related to it, but it won't give you full paralysis. Getting at least partial paralysis is easy when you use simple visualizations.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Can we make a new rule against user created acronyms to avoid confusion?

Btw welcome to the forum!

Lol. Thanks.

Originally Posted by rose_red

They are both, as Snowy said, WILD techniques, but the first one sounds like a variation I've heard called the Tactile Assisted WILD. It basically works as you've described it, and while I've not successfully done a WILD, it works for me trying to immerse myself into a meditational visualization. I usually prefer spinning or running to flying, but that's just me.

All the Best,
rR

Yep. My first method got me to sleep in like 10 minutes while I was barely trying to stay in the visual.

**nina** · 02-09-2010 03:34 PM

Hi Sammy, I merged your three posts into one. Try to use the "edit" button to add to your posts instead of double posting. You can click on the ++quote button to quote multiple responses in your reply.