Ormus, and How to Make it at Home in a Blender

**bluremi** · 11-19-2013 12:01 AM

I'm not sure where to begin explaining "science" is in this post. Magnets are not an emerging science, nor are the properties of water.

The fact that people are selling this stuff online to credulous consumers should be a big hint that it's snake-oil and the dream effects are just a placebo.

So you don't waste your time and potentially hurt yourself by drinking large amounts of sodium, causing headaches, high blood pressure, etc, I will try explaining a little of why this makes no sense:

1) Magnets won't work on water
Just as there are different materials in the world, there are also different types of magnetism. Ferromagnetic forces are the ones most commonly known, and it's what makes METALLIC items become attracted to objects with a magnetic field. Water is NOT a ferromagnetic material.

Another type of magnetism is diamagnetism, which is present in all materials, including water. This force, however, is extremely weak (impossible for a human to detect). If you had an extremely powerful superconducting magnet and had a thin film of perfectly stationary water on it, the water would dimple slightly in the middle due to the diamagnetic repelling force. No amount of toy magnets attached to the outside of a blender would be strong enough to have any measurable effect on the water inside.

2) Magnetic fields aren't permanent
If you turned off the superconducting magnet in the example above, the film of water would return to normal immediately. That's because magnetic fields are an active force on diamagnetic materials like water. If the field disappears, the force is gone, the water molecules are free to move around as normal. Once the water leaves the blender, it's just regular water, like it was before it came out of your tap.

3) Magnetic fields work by aligning atomic particles
Atoms are made of electrons and protons, with negative and positive charges respectively. A magnetic field will attract or repel these particles, changing their orientation. That's why in a metal bar magnet, all the molecules are aligned with their positive poles pointing one way and negative poles pointing the other way, like this:
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By being aligned, they reinforce each other and create a magnetic field.

If you mixed up the orientation of all the molecules, it is no longer a magnetic field, because everything is randomly arranged. If you hit a magnet with a hammer enough times, you will cause it to lose its magnetic properties because you are disrupting the atomic structure. When you turn on a blender, you are forcibly mixing all the water molecules, spinning them around and heating them. You are actively destroying any possibility of alignment.

4) Wisdom of the ancients? No such thing
If someone tells you that people a long time ago knew some science we didn't, it's time to change the channel. If this is a convincing argument to you, all the sodium has probably addled your brain.

**Sageous** · 11-19-2013 12:31 AM

^^ Well said, Bluremi! Maybe you could look at this "Stimulating the pineal gland"

thread and offer up more of same? It might help...

**bluremi** · 11-19-2013 01:36 PM

Haha, no thanks. In that other thread one of the OP's premises is the existence of ghosts, I would probably be wasting my time there.

**Sageous** · 11-19-2013 05:57 PM

^^ Good point.

**StaySharp** · 11-19-2013 09:12 PM

As of today I can agree, this is most likely all placebo, if it works that's cool but at least leave out the sodium.
Might as well eat the magnets themself, sit in a rollercoaster for 10 minutes and turn everything in your stomach into "ormus" directly.

**Wolfie893** · 11-20-2013 09:26 PM

i'm having a hard time linking the white gold powder of ancient Egypt that i've heard about, to a liquid spun around in a blender. and that's about as polite as i can put it. because, really : water in a blender w/ magnets taped to it?

**bluremi** · 11-20-2013 11:49 PM

Fantastic thread about Ormus here: Sciencemadness Discussion Board - On the subject of ORMUS - Powered by XMB 1.9.11

A really fun read if you are interested in chemistry, nuclear physics, science in general... Really kicks off around page 2.

**rodan** · 11-25-2013 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by rodan

Got this idea from seeing a video of a manufactured product called " Water Vortex Magnetizer " .

Take three ( or more ) neodymium magnets, ( I'm going to use the magnets that are inside of computer harddrives. I have several " broken " harddrives laying around the house anyway ).

Tape them, ( I'm thinking the side of the magnet that is North, should face the inside ) to a small, plastic bottle of water, 1/2 liter or even a 1 liter. Pour out just a bit of the water. Add a small bit of Celtic sea salt, maybe a small bit of vitamin C. Shake vigorously. Drink.

This should have the same effect as using a blender, and, a small bit more convenient to use.

I found a pair of " mineral magnets ", these are strong magnets designed to strap around your water pipe in the home, like as the main water pipe coming into your home.

I tried both the bottle shaker method, and, the blender method, once each.

1) I strapped the two magnets on the 1/2 liter bottle with bunjie cord. 3/4 full of plain water. ( My water in my house is " hard water ", that is, water with lots of minerals.) I also added about 1/16 teaspoon of Himalayan Sea Salt. I shook it vigorously, for about a minute. Drank it down immediately.

2) I strapped the two magnets around the blender. Put about 10 oz water in it. 1/16 teaspoon of Himalayan Sea Salt. Put blender on " high " for about 45 seconds. Drank it down, immediately.

I did both methods this morning, about two hours apart.

Sea salt is supposed to contain over 70 trace minerals, and, I'm assuming the " ormus " type of minerals are in it.

I was thinking, another good source of trace minerals would be internal bentonite clay. You could substitute the internal clay, say about 1/8 teaspoon, instead of the sea salt. ( for those of you worried about taking too much salt in your diet )

It's now been about two hours since I've taken the second batch of water. So, I did it once, with bottle shaking, and once with blender.

Can't say I felt anything different, except I'm not hungry. Normally I eat before 12pm, every day, not today, though. Don't have the urge to eat anything, Feel satisfied, full to stomach. Can't explain why. I didn't over drink the amount of water. I drink this much or more water, every day, by noon. So, I did not increase my intake of drinking water. Only thing added would be the sea salt.

This reminds me of the stories about people who live at the base of the Himalayan mountains, who drink the " hunza " ( glacier water ) are so healthy. Something, maybe it's the natural minerals combined with the " vortex " of the water?, water is constantly moving, down the sides of the mountain.

Guess I will see if I remember any lucid dreams when I wake up tommorrow morning. I'm already doing the " magnet on the forehead, over the pineal gland experiment. Can't really say I'm gettin any results from that, yet. Just not sure.

**rodan** · 11-28-2013 04:43 PM

Have been doing the blender method in #33. Along with a small amount of sea salt, I put a small amount of bentonite clay with it. I make at least one drink, sometimes two, always in the morning.

I haven't had any lucid dreams, but, seems like I'm remembering more regular dreams, upon awakening.

I doubt this harms the body, if anything, it helps. Maybe the magnets are a waste of time, I don't know, but, it's not too much work to strap them on the blender while I mix the drink.

**rodan** · 01-24-2015 04:19 PM

Going back on the vortex water. Had some positive results with the tesla purple plate as far as relief from lower back pain.

**limitlessenergy** · 11-09-2015 07:25 AM

I use a cross magnetic ( 4 ) configuration and some of the best internal calcium bentonite you can buy with just a small dash of Himalayan salt, organic apple cider vinegar, organic olive oil, and MSM flakes ( DMSO2 ). It has been 8 years, 9 months, and 26 days ( yes I remember ) since I got more than a booger I had to cough up. I am not joking about this. I don't get colds or flu while everyone around me does despite being in contact with sick people. I don't even get headaches despite having been in professional motocross and had many falls even as a child growing up when I was a young motocross racer. #1 locally and #700's grand nationally. I am polyphasic. I have had lucid dreams since I was young that started out with flight. They then led to where I leave my body and travel through space at what seemed the speed of light with not just stars, but also entire galaxies passing by only to re-enter my body and wake up. I have also had states where I have been in multiple dreams within dreams the last time 4 states. Powers I have accessed while lucid dreaming; invulnerability, teleportation, telekinesis, remote viewing, flight, manifestation of objects on cosmic scales, and even control of time viewing through genetic memory of ancestors much many of you may have seen in the movie Lucy. A thunderstorm occurred when I was being conceived and I have had lucid states where I saw myself being born from outside myself with my mother holding me for the first time with her hands and not her womb. I have also been hit physically while awake by lightning and survived. I was knocked out only to go lucid into astral light body form. This is an extremely rare occasion for me to even reveal these things in a public matter other than to my soul family.