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      Galantamine/Alpha-GPC

      I've recently gotten back into LDing after a few years without practicing it. Of course, since I had a solid period of successful LDing, I am a little bit beyond excited to start having them again since I know what's possible

      I bought some alpha-GPC (delivers choline to the brain as well as being an acetylcholine precursor, crosses BBB better than choline alone) locally, and am waiting on some galantamine since this seems to be the closest to the holy grail of LD aids (other than herbs that I'm not comfortable doing, being in recovery). I know that most people use galantamine/choline after a few hours of sleep to take advantage of the peak plasma levels and corresponding longer REM periods. However, I have sleep problems (trouble falling asleep, but mostly staying asleep). This has left me in a bit of a quandary. I tried Alpha-GPC before bed and basically, I just had very "chaotic" dreams that might as well been a string of nonsensical words; like a dream on speed. It wasn't vivid or conducive to LDing.

      Because WBTB and WILD is sort of what I want to avoid, I'm wondering why it wouldn't be possible to just take the galantamine and choline in the morning, or even afternoon for that matter. Obviously, the plasma levels won't be quite as high, but it's still better than nothing right or is it counter-productive in some way I'm not seeing? Also, for those that have had Alpha-GPC and galantamine by themselves, can you compare the "potency" of the two (since both effectively increase acetylcholine levels)?

      Of course, I am keeping a dream journal, doing lots of RCs and focussing on LDing (just in general) throughout the day. However, I remember that it does take some time to start being successful, no matter how dedicated or confident you are so I'm just looking to boost my chances of starting to have LDs sooner.

      Thanks!

      EDIT: Also, it might be worth mentioning that I drink kava a few times a week for anxiety/insomnia and notice that it creates vivid dreams. I look forward to trying it as a LD aid and I'll be sure to let everyone know how that goes, but I need to get more successful LDs under my belt before undertaking stuff that isn't a known LD aid.
      Last edited by bula; 10-12-2013 at 03:39 AM.

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