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    Thread: Supplements & results log (Galantamine, Alpha GPC, Caffeine, others)

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      Post Supplements & results log (Galantamine, Alpha GPC, Caffeine, others)

      Hi all,

      I've decided to pick up supplements again to help with getting lucid, and figured it might be helpful to some to share my results. I think every "body" is different so what works for me might not work for you, but maybe it will give you some ideas to experiment with if you are so inclined

      Source of my choices
      I've done a lot of reading about supplements, and based on that I've picked the below choices. If you want to do some reading of your own about possible combinations and what to expect and why, I recommend this research paper trying out different combo's: https://www.physicsforums.com/attach...ams-pdf.19148/

      Used supplements
      Based on the above and on my own experience in the past, last Friday I started experimenting with:

      - In the afternoon around 15:00, a high dosage B-complex supplement (I've seen B6 rumoured to help with lucidity);
      - An hour before bedtime vaporizing some herbs to help me fall asleep (I'm always hyperactive in the evening, not sure if this is helpful or unhelpful for the lucid dream attempt in itself, but wanted to mention it to paint the complete picture);
      - Alarm set for 3,5 hours after falling asleep (my personal sleep cycles are 1h45mins, so that's a full 2 cycles);
      - Once the alarm went off, taken 200mg of L-Theanine (suntheanine) and waited 15 minutes -> theanine is to help you fall back asleep
      - After the 15 mins (this time break was mentioned in the 2nd study I posted), taken:
      * 300 mg Alpha GPC -> increases Acetylcholine in the brain to support REM sleep;
      * 8mg Galantamine -> Prevents the break-down of Acetylcholine, to support REM sleep;
      * Sip of coffee (I didn't have any caffeine powder, now I do and for my next experiment I intend to use 20 mg) -> helps skip the Deep Sleep phase to go directly into REM (dreaming).

      Results
      - Successful lucid dream: Using the WILD technique I was lucid for around 1,5 hours, an estimate based on how long it felt / the amount of things I was able to do, and the time I went back to sleep/the time I woke up.
      - Next day side effects: Colours and taste were a lot more intense, things seemed to "glow", low energy, lack of focus. Wasted day in which I did not get much done. I don't know if everyone has these effects but if you're going to experiment I recommend to not have plans/work/school the next day to play it safe. Used piracetam to mitigate the effects, but also took ALCAR with it which was not a smart thing to do in retrospect. The use of piracetam is recommended in the above mentioned book by Thomas Yuschak, to prevent a build up of tolerance to the galantamine, and to help bring your choline levels back to normal.

      Other info
      To paint a complete picture I'll describe the other supplements I take for other reasons than Lucid Dreaming, but who knows might have an impact on success rate (I haven't researched this)
      - I regularly meditate, partly to practice the WILD technique (visualisation without falling asleep)
      - I try eat at least the recommended amount of fruit, vegetables, nuts for nutritional value (vitamins, minerals, ea.) and low tot non amount of meat and fish
      - Every day I supplement with vitamins and minerals to help keep me healthy and compensate for defects of eating (nearly) no meat, fish and dairy (I do eat eggs), which are and might be impacting results:
      * Vitamin B complex, and extra b12 (b12 not taken for a few days during last experiment)
      * Calcium + Magnesium + Zinc
      * L-Carnosine
      * Iodine + Tyrosine
      * Creatine (not taken for a few days during last experiment)

      I'll update this thread after any new experiments. If you have any questions feel free to ask, any comments and tips appreciated.
      Last edited by MilkyDance; 10-28-2016 at 07:04 PM. Reason: Removed link cause too similar

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