Choline seems like a good addition to the combo. |
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I have bought some Hup A and some nicotine "pills" that you suck on. I will take them wbtb. Is there any other supplement I should use to get the best probability of getting lucid? I want the highest chance since I don't want to use this combination to often. |
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Choline seems like a good addition to the combo. |
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Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.
So these AchE (acetycholierase enzyme ) inhibitors don't really make you lucid per se, but make your dreams a little more vivid. If your dreams are already vivid, they really don't do much. They basically stop the enzymes that breaks apart acetyl choline, so you don't need to take other AchE Inhibitors at the same time. |
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Last edited by ZenLD; 03-27-2019 at 04:36 AM. Reason: forgot to add
Thanks. I'm a bit worried about taking choline to the combo though because I'v read it could be to much acethylcholine in the system. |
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I'v decided I will also experiment with combinations of vitamin B6, omega 3, melatonin, valerian root and l-theanine. I will report my results. |
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Last edited by novis; 03-27-2019 at 02:58 PM.
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In my dream I was taking a supplement so I remembered your post! |
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Thanks for the tips! Have these substances, Lions, gotu, made it easier to lucid dream or how do they affect you? |
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I would avoid ever taking them together unless you want to experience some seriously uncomfortable physical side effects (as well as unpleasant mental ones too, but the physical ones will probably overwhelm them). |
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Have you tried huperzine A and nicotine together? Do you think 1mg nicontine + 100mcg or 200mcg Huperzine A can cause serious side effects? Can you give me a link on where you have read this? |
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Last edited by novis; 04-07-2019 at 12:19 AM.
As long as the dose for both is appropriate it is fine, I was just trying to give you some warning because the side effects of taking too much of a cholinergic(s) are some the most unpleasant in my experience. |
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Last edited by novis; 04-07-2019 at 06:12 PM.
Thanks for starting this thread, novis! I also bought some Hup A recently. Rather than taking it orally, I'm mainly planning on using it in the form of a transdermal gel to be applied to the skin. The idea is to provide a more constant, longer lasting blood-concentration compared to taking it orally. Probably will combine it with nicotine (gum or patch) and theanine. Possibly also choline, as suggested by NyxCC and ZenLD. |
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Nice! I have just started with Hup A. Ill only do it once a week though and this first time was Hup alone. Though, I think Hup A alone actually decreased my recall and had no other effect... Next time Ill do Hup A + nicotine. |
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Good idea to limit it to once a week, because desensitization is always a potential problem. |
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Last edited by Zthread; 04-11-2019 at 08:08 PM.
Started making my first batch of transdermal huperzine A (H). Crushed a single 200 microgram H tablet and mixed it with 3 teaspoons of ethanol (i.e., Everclear) in a small glass. (Did an online search to make sure H is soluble in ethanol.) Now waiting for the insoluble components of the H tablet to settle out, so I can siphon off the H dissolved in ethanol. Then will mix in some aloe vera and let the ethanol evaporate. (The purpose of the aloe vera is to increase the permeability of the skin, making it easier for the H to pass through it and enter the bloodstream.) |
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Good question. Can't be completely sure. But it doesn't really matter. In fact, it might actually be helpful to leave some ethanol (AKA grain alcohol) in the mix, because ethanol is known to increase the permeability of the skin. It's used for that purpose in many commercially available transdermal patches. |
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On another thread in this forum, sivason posted the following regarding transdermal supplements: |
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