Thread: Galantamine + Choline

I know exactly what robot_butler is saying. A lot of times, I would literally go in and out of lucids. One second, id be in my bed, and like two seconds later id be lucid in my bedroom. I'd go in and out of this multiple times either till I fully go into a lucid dream, or I completely wake up. I can tell im lucid in my room because my room is usually always pitch black. I had this happen this morning once, where I woke up in my room and moved around a bit, and then about 5 seconds later, I woke up for real, not knowing that I was just dreaming.

Am I the only one who feels like G+C changes your perception of time? 3 hours of sleep after a WBTB feels more than an entire night worth's of sleep. Even if I don't dream much, it stills makes me feel like time is moving by much slower.

Yea I know what your talking about. These pills just make half my night of sleep a crazy adventure. Well my order should be coming in tomorrow, and im super excited because I haven't used this stuff since last December. I screwed up my tolerance so I took some time off. Well I took a little too much time off, but know its like I never tried them before. So my experiences should be pretty good. And I know that know im going to get lucid a lot more because I have been getting a more lucids lately. I should update my LD count sometime.

Originally Posted by NrElAx

Yea I know what your talking about. These pills just make half my night of sleep a crazy adventure. Well my order should be coming in tomorrow, and im super excited because I haven't used this stuff since last December. I screwed up my tolerance so I took some time off. Well I took a little too much time off, but know its like I never tried them before. So my experiences should be pretty good. And I know that know im going to get lucid a lot more because I have been getting a more lucids lately. I should update my LD count sometime.

If you are worried about your Tolerance try mixing up what you are taking instead of the same combo. Give Huperzine A a shot if you want something else that works closely to the G+C combo. Do a little research and let me know what you think.

GL on the ld's!

Originally Posted by shooshtime

If you are worried about your Tolerance try mixing up what you are taking instead of the same combo. Give Huperzine A a shot if you want something else that works closely to the G+C combo. Do a little research and let me know what you think.

GL on the ld's!

Yea I can give that a try. Im also only going to take the combo twice a week or three times max.
Edit: hmm I looked up the Huperzine A and its also a acetylcholine inhibitor, well it wasn't exactly called that, it had something else added to the choline part, but you know what I mean. I read that it also enhances memory and they're looking into it for helping people with Alzheimer's, so its seems pretty damn similar. I will defiantly look into buying it. Does it work just as well as the G&C combo. I've tried Alpha gpc on its own because im waiting for my galantamine to come in, but it doesn't work as well. I use to combine that with the g&c for an extra boost and it works really well. Some people have tried it on its own and its worked for them. But I might have to buy the stuff you mentioned because it seems promising. Im surprised no one else has mentioned that stuff.
Edit again: I just ordered it because I read a review saying it worked just as well as galantamine and may actually make the lucids longer. Wow, can't wait to try it. Thanks for mentioning it. Ands its much cheaper. Oh, and has anyone tried California poppy extract. I read that a lot of people have got long lucids from it, so I ended up ordering it because it was only 9 bucks. You have to take like 30 drops of it, but you can always mix it with a drink.

I remember Yuschak mentioning Huperzine in his book, but he said it wasn't nearly as effective. You ought to check what he had to say about it.

Isn't Opium made from poppy seeds? That might be something you want to avoid.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

I remember Yuschak mentioning Huperzine in his book, but he said it wasn't nearly as effective. You ought to check what he had to say about it.

Isn't Opium made from poppy seeds? That might be something you want to avoid.

The California poppy I believe does not produce opium. Hence the word California lol. I dont think they would grow opium poppies in California, because then people would be trying to make heroin hahah.

Ok, I don't know anything about it really, just wanted to urge caution.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

Ok, I don't know anything about it really, just wanted to urge caution.

Well thanks for looking out man.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

I remember Yuschak mentioning Huperzine in his book, but he said it wasn't nearly as effective. You ought to check what he had to say about it.

Isn't Opium made from poppy seeds? That might be something you want to avoid.

I believe it's based on the individual, I've personally have great experiences with Huperzine so i'd recommend anyone who is interested to give it a shot or mix it up with your other combos and see how it works for yourself.

Originally Posted by NrElAx

Yea I can give that a try. Im also only going to take the combo twice a week or three times max.
Edit: hmm I looked up the Huperzine A and its also a acetylcholine inhibitor, well it wasn't exactly called that, it had something else added to the choline part, but you know what I mean. I read that it also enhances memory and they're looking into it for helping people with Alzheimer's, so its seems pretty damn similar. I will defiantly look into buying it. Does it work just as well as the G&C combo. I've tried Alpha gpc on its own because im waiting for my galantamine to come in, but it doesn't work as well. I use to combine that with the g&c for an extra boost and it works really well. Some people have tried it on its own and its worked for them. But I might have to buy the stuff you mentioned because it seems promising. Im surprised no one else has mentioned that stuff.
Edit again: I just ordered it because I read a review saying it worked just as well as galantamine and may actually make the lucids longer. Wow, can't wait to try it. Thanks for mentioning it. Ands its much cheaper. Oh, and has anyone tried California poppy extract. I read that a lot of people have got long lucids from it, so I ended up ordering it because it was only 9 bucks. You have to take like 30 drops of it, but you can always mix it with a drink.

Let me know how it works out for you, I think you will see some good results.

My galantamine combo came in today and im going to try it out during my wbtb. So I'll post my results tomorrow. Its been 8 months since I've taken this stuff so im pretty excited because its going to be like taking it for my first time again. I miss waking up into sleep paralysis like this shit always did for me. IM SO EXCITED OMG!!!! I've been getting a decent amount of LDs lately so im very confident I'll get some LDs tonight. Im for surely going to try and DEILD it up. I totally forgot to buy some L-theanine, I think that's what its called lol. That stuff really helps combat the upper affect from the galantamine. Im just worried it will keep me up, but I'll just pop the G&C and go right back to sleep. Im debating whether or not I should set my alarm an hour after taking it so Incan either WILD or DEILD. Im worried if I do that it will keep me up.

I vote for straight back to sleep!! I took Galantamind last night and stayed up long enough to write down my dreams and make a phone call to schedule trash pickup. I was super-sleepy though, and decided to take the G and crash again. I took it and then couldn't get back to sleep. I think it's mostly because I got too much sleep to start with though. Frustrating, cause now I need to wait like week (I'm going to give it at least a week between attempts from now on). But I'm stoked for you!! Hope you go lucid tonight!!

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

I vote for straight back to sleep!! I took Galantamind last night and stayed up long enough to write down my dreams and make a phone call to schedule trash pickup. I was super-sleepy though, and decided to take the G and crash again. I took it and then couldn't get back to sleep. I think it's mostly because I got too much sleep to start with though. Frustrating, cause now I need to wait like week (I'm going to give it at least a week between attempts from now on). But I'm stoked for you!! Hope you go lucid tonight!!

Thanks man. When I first tried the combo, I stayed up like people mentioned, but I had a terrible time trying to fall back asleep. So that's when I decided to just pop them, and go straight back to sleep. Although the first few times I did that, I was so excited that I kept myself awake anyways lol. But I find it funny reading some peoples experiences and saying, " oh I took the pills during my wbtb and stayed up for 30 minutes but could not fall back to sleep." Then they do the same thing the next attempt and still can't fall back to sleep. Its like, listen, if you have a hard time falling asleep, then take the pills and go right back to sleep. You can't keep having these long wbtb and expect it to be any different than the time before when it comes to falling back to sleep. You either have to try some l-theanine out, or go right back to bed.

Well I only got lucid long enough to do a nose pinch this morning. I had some pretty long false awakenings, but im dumb and didnt realize anything was different. One of them I checked the time on my phone and I swear I had two FA where I did the same thing. Eventually I figured I was dreaming but it must have been near the end of my dream because I woke up soon after.

Do you use mantras or anything? I've reached a point now where, when I do get lucid (as infrequent as that is) I remember to do RCs and stabilize or try to. Next I need to hammer some goals into my head and remember them too.

Naw I dont do reality checks anymore cuz I never found them useful. I mean all they really do is confirm your lucid. I got lucid for a bit at least, so im sure next time I take it I'll get lucid. Also, before bed I do silverbullets tutorial or whatever it is . Possibly the key to lucid dreaming, that's the name of the thread .

I tried again last night at 4:30 am but couldnt fall asleep for about 4 hours. I knew I was going to have trouble falling asleep because I woke up for my wbtb feeling pretty awake. Anyways, I got lucid in my third dream, but I was still going along with the dream. I became lucid in the water and tried to turn into a dolphin. I tried breathing under the water, which worked somewhat. I lost lucidity sometime after doing one more thing.

Also, does anyone know what time im suppose to take huperzine A. During wbtb or before bed? Im guessing during wbtb because it keeps you awake just like galantamine.

On my last attempt, I took 5-HTP before bedtime, two 4mg of galantamine/200mg of choline, and two 300mg of alpha-GPC during a WBTB. My dreams were more vivid but nothing lucid.

Going to try again on Friday night. I cannot get a good WILD technique.

Mzzkc wrote a guide on WILDs which I found pretty helpful at explaining the ideal conditions to manifest such a beast: http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/mzzkcs...-guide-105484/

I think I read that, but I will give it another try. Thanks!

Recent WILDing on the G dream entry. Probably the longest transition I have ever experienced:

GLD.movieTheater - cloudBattle - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

It gives you an easier time to WILD since you can't fall asleep that easily. I often end up in SP when I take this if I can't fall asleep right away. Once again I have to say I'm blown away by the amount of information your brain receives after taking one of these.

Matt what do you mean by the information the brain receives after taking this. Do u mean it helps your memory in real life. I've noticed my shirt term memory is getting better after get ruined from smoking weed in high school lol.