Thread: Galantamine + Choline

Hey, there's a whole thread you can read to find out!

It's actually used for Alzheimer's patients to help with memory. It's not an American thing - Alzheimer's knows no boundaries nor does pharmacology. But you have to buy it on the internet - if you walk into a drug store and ask they'll tell you you need a prescription and look at you like this:

Haha, cheers Darkmatters.
I had no intention of shifting through 37 pages to find out what it is.

You should read some of it anyway.. pick any 5 consecutive pages somewhere in there. There's a lot of really important info in this thread, which tends to get repeated over and over, but anyone wanting to mess with the big G should know this stuff. Also get Advanced Lucid Dreaming: the Power of Supplements by Thomas Yuschak or try to find the online PDF version.

Just read page 1 lol. I actually read through most of the pages once I found out how much success people had with it.

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

WHat is this Galantamine + Choline?
Is it an american thing? Is it dangerous? And what is it normally used for?

yeah, there is a thread around here about that somewhere.....

heh

this is a good breakdown / review
Review of Galantamine: the Lucid Dreaming Pill | dream studies portal

Thanks man ^^^^^^

It is not exclusively an American thing, but I know it requires a prescription in some countries. I don't want to guess which ones. Just poke around a bit on the internet to find out if it is legal in your country. I doubt anyone will track you down if you buy it on the internet, but you never know...

Once again I'm amazed by how much this messes with my perception of time. One hour of time feels like an eternity. This with time dilation perhaps? Does anyone know what you can combine with this to have an easier time falling asleep? I usually wake up an hour after falling asleep after my WBTB when I've taken G+C. Very hard to go back to sleep then.

Have you tried L-Theanine. Also, do you stay up after you take it or do you go straight back to sleep. What I do is go straight back to sleep and then set my alarm to wake me up an hour later. That way I usually wake up in sleep paralysis and have an easier time going back to sleep once it has peaked. I took a 8 month break from this stuff, but for some reason I doesn't work as well as it did originally.

I always wake up one hour after falling asleep, and during my WBTB I always take the G+C pill right before going back to sleep. Might try some L-Theanine.

Yea I dont know anything else besides what I mentioned. I've been having trouble lately and been waking up two hours after taking it and not being able to fall back asleep.

I've been doing the G+C and L-Theanine about once a week for the past 5 weeks and the first few times were pretty awesome. However, the last two times I could not go back to sleep! I'm usually too excited, hence why I added the L-Theanine but for some reason I just could not get to sleep. I would lay there for about 2 hours feeling tired and like I could go to sleep, but it just never happened.

For those that have been taking this combo for a while, is this how it is when you build up too much tolerance? I'm thinking I should give this a rest for maybe a month or so and come back to it and see if it's any different.

Also, any recommendation on what you guys do to make sure you can actually go back to sleep after taking these pills?

Just make sure you go to bed right after taking it. I got a tolerance towards it and took an 8 month break, and for some reason, It still doesn't work well for me anymore. I dont know if once you screw up your tolerance, then you'll never feel it again. I mean when you build a tolerance towards things, sometimes it can take years to get back to where you were at the beginning.

Originally Posted by NrElAx

Just make sure you go to bed right after taking it. I got a tolerance towards it and took an 8 month break, and for some reason, It still doesn't work well for me anymore. I dont know if once you screw up your tolerance, then you'll never feel it again. I mean when you build a tolerance towards things, sometimes it can take years to get back to where you were at the beginning.

I've noticed a decrease in the effectiveness of G+C combo when I have excess stress or my mind is more focused on other things.

How many recent attempts with G+C have failed you?

I used to take G+C combo every 3/4 days for about 6 months with great success. I take the combo less frequently due to life events. Every now and then i'll take the G+C combo and it will still work a good 95% of the time.

Sometimes over thinking mantras and achieving lucidity can be a detrimental thing for me. I definitely notice an increase in the duration and clarity of my lucid dreams when I take the G+C combo in a "casual" manner e.g. not stressing becoming lucid.

I've had somewhat success my last two attempts. Before, I was usually able to wild easily in the past in this stuff, but I've found out now, that I have to vild now in order to get into the lucid. And like this morning, I would barely get into the lucid. I would have to visualize myself rubbing my carpet(I always visualize that because its easiest) and then id get into the dream,.but it would be so unstable, even if I use my senses. This will go on, back and forth for like 30 minutes. Me just going In and out of lucids, and i sometimes just scare myself out because i get an eerie feeling in the lucid lol.

To all those who are succssful lucid dreamers with Galantamine: I've tried probably 10 times now, but haven't had much success. I bought some from ebay, and then some from relentlessimprovement, but haven't really noticed anything to the tune of conscious lds/obes. shock:

First, I take 150-200 mg. 5-Htp before bed with melatonin. 5-htp supposed to suppress R.E.M., but I still had one or two dreams I remember. Then, I take 8-16 mg. Galantamine 3-4 hrs. after sleep, with choline(500 mg.), and alpha gpc. I've tried this several times. Most I had was a sleep paralysis, something that has happened to me every now and then naturally, w/o supplements. Maybe it's just a supplement that doesn't affect me much.

I wish someone who has success with this and has a good heart could find the answer for me in a conscious l.d.(connecting with your spirit guide) on my behalf...and I will do something for you in return, spiritural or financial( I have a little $ if u are in need) or whatever. Please, I've tried everything besides galantamine, including crystal gemstones(even so called most powerful moldavite angel chimes from heaven& earth--no effect) binaural/subliminal/ap cds, smoking salvia(seems to be hallucinations, not real obe), dxm from cough medicine, etc. Get back to me asap. thanks

Well I had pretty good success with my first bottle, but I can tell you that you probably shouldn't be taking 16 of it. That's going to just screw up your tolerance and then the stuff wont work for you. How many times have you tried 8 mg of it?

Yeah, it's not recommended to go over 8 mg.

And it's also very important to be practicing RCs and thinking about lucidity a lot - and especially as you're going to sleep.

Originally Posted by NrElAx

Well I had pretty good success with my first bottle, but I can tell you that you probably shouldn't be taking 16 of it. That's going to just screw up your tolerance and then the stuff wont work for you. How many times have you tried 8 mg of it?

Uh, I took 8 mg at first but didn't notice much, so I upped it to 16 mg. I wonder if some people just aren't as sensitive to it.

Your taking it after at least 4 hours of sleep right? You should try and take the pills and set your alarm for an hour later after taking it to try and get into sleep paralysis.

3-4 hrs. You mean to say, after waking after 4 hrs., set alarm for an hr to get in s.p.? I don't find that necessary as it takes a while to get back to sleep after taking galantamine anyway. I'd love to hear about the conscious lucid dream/obe experiences of those successful though.

What I was saying was, do your wbtb ( when i take the g&c, I just wake up and pop them, and then go right back to sleep) and then set your alarm for and hour later. After you have the alarm set, go back to sleep, and usually what will happen is, you'll wake up into sp or be able to get right into sp. I dont even need an alarm anymore cuz i wake up automatically after and hour now . My last two attempts were successful, but very short lucids. Both DILDs, and the fourth one, i became lucid in my family room, but right when i got off my couch , the dream faded, and i woke up. On a side note, i had an amazing dream this morning that i was flying in a jet and then ejected and parachuted to a city. After that i woke up and checked my phone to see the time and it said 9:25 am so i went back to bed. Literally a second later i woke up and checked my clock again and it said 9:54. The first time i checked the time was a Fing false awakening and i didnt even realize lol.

I've become so enthusiastic about how well Galantamine and Alpha GPC work that I've decided to manufacture my own according to Thomas' great book.

I'm selling it here: Lucidrene - your key to lucid dreaming

Having tested the formulation for quite a few months I can confirm that, for me at least, it works like no other !!

I tried lucid dreamer tabs last night and had some extrodinary results.I would recommend them to anyone who has practiced lucid dreaming before.