"Imageless" Lucid Dreaming

**SimonKarlos** · 03-13-2011 12:57 PM

There's a type of lucid dream that can be experienced in which one is aware that they are dreaming, but experiences no sense of "being" in a dream in the usual sense, and it appears that he/she is in a type of void. I occasionally have experiences where I will become aware of a dream conversation, but without a sense of being anywhere. There's no sensation of a dream-body. I see no visuals, only darkness, yet the voices are very clear, and as I listen to the conversation I am aware that I am the one making them speak. One person is the "teacher," and the other is a questioner, and I am quite aware that I am both, the one asking the questions as well as the one answering them. Usually I am identified more with the teacher (yet I identify with each one in the moment that they speak), and as I am dreaming this conversation I am actually spontaneously formulating coherent answers to the questions. My mental clarity is more expanded in this state.

My mind triggers these dreams usually as a result of listening to certain audio programs of a spiritual nature before sleep, in which there is often a "question and answer" format. These type of lucid dreams are deeply enjoyable for me. I also will begin to notice that my physical body is lying in bed as the dream continues, and soon the dream ends, usually with me having the last words from the dream conversation still fresh on my mind. I will note that typically this type of lucid dream involves the teacher from the particular audio program that I have listened to before sleep.

I am aware that there are really no objective teachers nor students in any "reality." All experience is totally subjective. We are each teachers/students, both learning and demonstrating through the choices we make.

Blessings
Kar

**Icyquartz** · 03-14-2011 10:09 AM

I have had this sort of "dreamless" sleep before as well Simon. Add me to friends the next time you are online...I also joined in march 2011!

Sincerely,
~Icy

**SimonKarlos** · 03-16-2011 01:19 PM

Hi Icy, my brother!

Thanks, just sent a Friend Request, although we are already friends.

Awesome, I'd love to hear about some of your experiences, for sure. Peace.

Kar

**Philosopher8659** · 03-16-2011 01:59 PM

Actually, if you practice lucid dreaming and do some experimentation, you will learn that you can lucid dream using multiple senses, just like being awake, or you can actually lucid dream in one sense, say physical sensation or just sound, music.

**Mental** · 03-21-2011 05:48 AM

Good post Simon,

I completely agree that all experience is "totally subjective". I've had similar experiences as you described where your perspective changes like that. Interesting stuff...

**SimonKarlos** · 03-21-2011 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mental

Good post Simon,

I completely agree that all experience is "totally subjective". I've had similar experiences as you described where your perspective changes like that. Interesting stuff...

Hi. I'm pleased that you enjoyed it, my friend. Blessings.

**Rawracookie** · 03-22-2011 01:38 AM

I had a dream where I didn't identify with any of the characters at all or even had any thoughts. I did feel the mood of the situation, though. Maybe it is accurate to say that I was the situation.

**Rawracookie** · 03-22-2011 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

Actually, if you practice lucid dreaming and do some experimentation, you will learn that you can lucid dream using multiple senses, just like being awake, or you can actually lucid dream in one sense, say physical sensation or just sound, music.

Originally Posted by Topit

Actually, if you practice lucid dreaming and do some experimentation, you will learn that you can lucid dream using multiple senses, just like being awake, or you can actually lucid dream in one sense, say physical sensation or just sound, music.

lolwut? Topit's siggy seems to be selling me gucci bags.