Thread: Lucid Morality Experiment

Originally Posted by DuB

I haven't tried healing a DC before, but I can relate to the part about feeling sick, disgusted and guilty after hurting a DC. In my last lucid I decided to get some payback on a DC who had been an asshole to me in the dream before I became lucid. "Some payback" is an understatement - I actually stabbed him through the heart . As he gurgled and writhed over onto the desk in front of him, I suddenly felt intensely disgusted with myself. Literally sick to my stomach. It didn't occur to me to try to heal him, though - instead I just walked away and tried to shrug it off, telling myself it was only a dream .

I think the thing to keep in mind is - live and learn, you know? You found out that it's not for you - you can't do that kind of thing, even though you know it's just a dream. I was lucky I'd read about lucid dream healing, because I hated what I'd done and really wanted to fix it, and as soon as I fixed it I felt much better, I felt like things were "right" again.

I don't know if I'd feel different if I were defending myself in a dream - I haven't had a lucid where I was being attacked and had to defend myself with violence - I think if that happened and I were lucid I'd probably try another way of resolving the problem - talking to whatever was attacking me, or holding out my hand and thinking "stop" and believing that I couldn't be harmed, that kind of thing.

Dreams are a gift. They should be respected. I believe that is one of the main reasons I can't possibly hurt dream characters in a lucid dream.

Another reason is that I try to make my dreams life-like in that what I do in a dream should have consequences in that dream world (though the consequences may not emerge until a later dream!).

Morality aside, since DC's are essentially a part of you, is it possible that you feel sick after hurting or killing one because you're actually hurting or killing a part of yourself? Just a thought...

Well, the weird part for me is that I've inflicted all kinds of punishment on DCs using superhero-like powers and never batted an eye. Although that tended to be a bunch of punching/kicking/throwing, it was probably just as lethal considering the god-like strength I usually possess at the time. The main focus those times, I think, was on the simple fact that I was able to do those sorts of things. Like living out a video game. However, when I stabbed the DC, it was nothing spectacular or entertaining, it was simply murder. So what I'm getting at is that, at least for me, it's very much the context of the violence rather than simply violence itself.

where are some of the threads that talk about healing and morality, etc? it sounds really interesting. I want to know how to heal in LDs (once I actaly have 1)

Could you compare morality in lucid dreams to morality in computer games?

I once became Lucid in a dream where there was A DC that was really pissing me off. I picked him up and pushed him head first towards the rotating paddle on this big mixing machine. The look of terror on his face made me feel pretty bad about it. But I screamed at him, telling him that this was a dream, and if I wanted to I could stick him in there. I then dropped him on the ground and walked away.

I don't normally randomly attack DC's, but I do have methods for dealing with them when they attack me. Like using TK to control their actions or levitate them away. Or making myself insubstantial so that they can't touch me.

Or sometimes for fun I'll just let them attack me, to see the surprise on their face when they find out they can't hurt me at all.