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      Does flying really ever get easier?

      I don't know why, but for some reason, flying in a LD, is one of the hardest things I have ever attempt, and still cannot do properly.

      I haven't had a lucid dream in a while, but I did have a very lengthy one this morning. I must have spent a good 15 minutes trying to fly in it. At first, I was just terrible, as if I had never flown in a dream before. Jump up very high, and drop. After a while, I finally got some confidence, and I was moving around in the air. Though uncontrollably. I was about 100 feet off the ground... I felt this was enough space, but I was wrong. As soon as I got a good amount of speed, I took a sharp noise dive straight into the ground. Though it wasn't painful. This is something I have accustomed myself to, and actually love the feeling of free fall that comes along with it. But yeah... I never really got it down.

      Some lucids it just comes easier than others. Some just seem impossible. I question the practicing of flying. Yes practice makes perfect... in a stable physical reality where we can learn cause and effect, or fine tune our muscles for physical activity.

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      Yes, lucid flying can improve with practice. When it comes to any kind of dream control, our greatest obstacle is doubting that we can do it, and telling ourselves that we have difficulties doing this. You said yourself that you managed to move around in the air after getting some confidence. That's what you need to do it, confidence. Just work on that. Many other lucid dreamers can fly in their dreams, so why shouldn't you be able to?
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      I actually find that I most of my dreams, how good I am at flying depends on how good I am supposed to be in my dreams. Often I find myself flying for the first time, like I have finally learnt how to in real life. Other times I'm a seasoned pro. It almost always makes me lucid though. I am amazing at lucid flight.

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      Practice will help a lot, but let's face it: most people don't get a lot of time to practice, so when you have the chance to fly you want to do it right.

      You might want to try some different techniques, I found that switching to superman flight gave me a lot of speed but lousy control, flapping my arms is extremely slow, but great for precision, and gliding is somewhere in between. There are so many techniques: do the superman thing, sprout wings, equip a jet pack or even take that My Little Pony out of your pocket and ride it over the rainbows (though lacking in testosterone this would be one hell of a dream). There's bound to be a style that suits you. You can work out the occasional nosedive with some practice.

      Good luck

      edit: Since you've already got long lucids I'm ignoring the whole confidence thing, I guess you already know that by now.
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      Yeah, I already knew a lot of that... even tried some of it, with limited success. For example, I can use a jet pack, but not be able to control it.

      What I'm really saying that, is the difficulty of flying seems to vary from lucid to lucid. It's not like in real life where you practice something, and slowly get better and better at it. In my dreams it's sort of like "well here goes nothing, I hope this works" and it either does or it doesn't. If it doesn't, I can slowly adjust and get within the dream. When the dreams ends, the process seems to repeat in the next dream.

      I think I am still too bound to physical reality in my dreams. When I flap my arms, the motion feels so unnatural, I'm pretty much subconsciously thinking that trying to use my arms to fly is impossible.

      I'm just really looking for assurance from someone who can just fly at will very easily anytime anywhere within a lucid a dream.

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      Yea it gets super easy. Like second nature. Its not as exhilarating as it was at the beginning so enjoy your first flights.
      When I first tried it I just put my hands at my side and blasted up slowly like a rocket, then woke up.
      I just fly everywhere now. I don't even wake up easily anymore. I find summoning people hard though.
      For reference on how long it could take someone, I've had around 40 lucid dreams total and each and everyone was unique in its one way.

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      all I have to say is there is always a little bit of doubt in you, even in lucid dreams...That's what you need to get rid of my friend..
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      I have trouble with it too. I wish I had some feeling in real life that I could relate flying too. Like I think if I went skydiving, I would find flying easier.
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      Quote Originally Posted by blade5x View Post
      I don't know why, but for some reason, flying in a LD, is one of the hardest things I have ever attempt, and still cannot do properly.

      I haven't had a lucid dream in a while, but I did have a very lengthy one this morning. I must have spent a good 15 minutes trying to fly in it. At first, I was just terrible, as if I had never flown in a dream before. Jump up very high, and drop. After a while, I finally got some confidence, and I was moving around in the air. Though uncontrollably. I was about 100 feet off the ground... I felt this was enough space, but I was wrong. As soon as I got a good amount of speed, I took a sharp noise dive straight into the ground. Though it wasn't painful. This is something I have accustomed myself to, and actually love the feeling of free fall that comes along with it. But yeah... I never really got it down.

      Some lucids it just comes easier than others. Some just seem impossible. I question the practicing of flying. Yes practice makes perfect... in a stable physical reality where we can learn cause and effect, or fine tune our muscles for physical activity.
      Anything you want to do in a lucid, just imagine yourself doing it. Your dream is what you are imagining, so just imagine what you want to do. But do it with near effortlessness. You don't want to use too much strain. Finding that balance is what it's all about.
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      i had an ld last night (2nd of the summer! wee), and i found it easier than
      my last dream that i flew in.

      in mine, there is sorta like a technique to doing it.
      run a little, jump, put out my hands, know that im going somewhere and to be smooth.

      thought i cant get much above head level. i dont know if i want to really.

      how is it in birds eye view?

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      it shouldnt really be that hard to do anything in a dream, its a dream, before going to sleep try mnemonic induction, tell urself that u can fly and in your dream jus jump and expect to be flying, or use the spinning technique and picture urself flying through a cloud or something

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      Flying is hard for me in most dreams; like you described, I often lift off the ground momentarily before losing the lightness and falling down again. In my childhood, I dreamed of flying without inhibitions or doubt. However, I'd never tried flying in a lucid dream until yesterday, and it worked pretty well.

      The dream started as a non-lucid one, and I was standing in my back yard. I looked up into the sky like I do in real life sometimes, just daydreaming, and I got an intense feeling of lightness, like I do in real life. It's the kind of feeling that makes me just want to take off into that twilight sky so that I half-believe I could. Well, I half-believed it here, still unaware that I was dreaming, and I almost consciously said to myself, "Well, let's see if we can." And with that, I was effortlessly floating off the ground, and I realized that I was dreaming. It was one of the most exhilerating lucid experiences I've had, and I continued to fly until I wanted to stop and pursue other activities.

      Maybe if you're looking for a real-life reference for how flight feels, you could just imagine how it would feel. For me, it helps to look at a wide-open sky, especially at twilight. But what may work for me may not necessarily work for anyone else, so you just have to find what gives you that sensation of lightness. I wouldn't recommend jumping off of a building, but maybe riding rollercoasters or simply being at a high elevation could give you some points of reference.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Anything you want to do in a lucid, just imagine yourself doing it. Your dream is what you are imagining, so just imagine what you want to do. But do it with near effortlessness. You don't want to use too much strain. Finding that balance is what it's all about.
      I think I know what you are talking about, but my lucids lose a sense of realism when I do that. I'm not exactly sure why, but it may have to do with the dream becoming more like a day dream... I'll have to see.

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      every lucid dream i've ever had i've been able to fly effortlessly. when i was around 9 or 10 i had my first lucid dream before i even heard of them, and as soon as i realized i was dreaming i flew really high up and explored until it faded away. and the second time i just flew at a high speed and plowed through buildings and houses.
      but the only advice i can give you is just do it. don't even think about it, and fly. sorry but this is the best i can do. maybe you're just thinking about flying too much instead of just doing it. i don't know, maybe some can and some can't, and it may be different for you, but i never thought twice before i flew. it was never like "okay i'm going to try to fly" because "trying" implies that you might fail.

      i hope this helps, and best of luck!
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      No, if you can't fly naturally, you're just not a flier.

      It's something you're born with, not everyone can lucid dream.


      sorry scrub

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      This might sound silly, but play FPS games. Especially ones with jetpacks. You'll learn what it looks like to fly from the first person perspective. This will make it easier.

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      Take a running start, and push off the ground. More like a long jump, only not! Sometimes, whether or not I run determines if I succeed.

      Try laying in the grass, and releasing gravity. You should fall straight towards the clouds! If you manage to go through the clouds, you may see another earth (as if the clouds were a mirror), or perhaps the stars. You'll be able to fly.
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      A good way to start out learning to fly is to find a big hill or cliff. Take a running start and jump, use your arms like wings and just glide. Then after a few times you can use your wings to gain altitude, then finally you can start flying like superman. Maybe I'll write a tutorial on the stages that I went through to learn to fly.

      Like anything in LDing it gets easier, I don't even think about it now, in fact, it's my primary mode of transportation in lucid dreams.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      A good way to start out learning to fly is to find a big hill or cliff. Take a running start and jump, use your arms like wings and just glide. Then after a few times you can use your wings to gain altitude, then finally you can start flying like superman. Maybe I'll write a tutorial on the stages that I went through to learn to fly.

      Like anything in LDing it gets easier, I don't even think about it now, in fact, it's my primary mode of transportation in lucid dreams.
      Hah, I actually did this in a WILD this morning. I was in my room, except this time I pretended that my room was on top of a 100 story building. Sure enough when I looked out the window, I saw skyscrapers everywhere. I actually saw flying cars as well. It looked a scene from the Fifth Element outside of my window. So I jumped, and free fell (you people don't know just how much I love this in my lucids!) for a bit, and then began to glide. Gliding was super easy at this point, because I was flying extremely fast. However, it all went wrong when I tried to make a turn. I smashed into the corner of a building and went spiraling out of control, and hit the street below shortly after. After that I was trying to will myself back to the top of a skyscraper, but I woke up shortly after, due to the absolute thrill I had.

      Quote Originally Posted by Burrito
      No, if you can't fly naturally, you're just not a flier.

      It's something you're born with, not everyone can lucid dream.


      sorry scrub
      Yeah well this scrub can WILD any given morning with an actual attempt. Too bad I'm just lazy. Now dream control... yes I admit, I'm a scrub when it comes to dream control. But that's fine. Long as the thrills keep coming.

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      why dont you try flying in reality, it pretty easy, that is if you got a plane that can develop lift

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      I have to litteraly flap my arms to fly in a LD. Before that I would just jump up and down like an idiot for a couple of minutes.
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      Try giving yourself a jetpack with unlimited fuel. Problem solved. Of course, if you can't even fly, you probably can't produce magical objects.

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      Whenever I fly, it's either with wings, or it's as if I can sort of 'swim' through the air. The 'swimming' is more reliable, as with the wings I have to be constantly concentrating on keeping them in existence.

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      Quote Originally Posted by blade5x View Post
      I don't know why, but for some reason, flying in a LD, is one of the hardest things I have ever attempt, and still cannot do properly.

      I haven't had a lucid dream in a while, but I did have a very lengthy one this morning. I must have spent a good 15 minutes trying to fly in it. At first, I was just terrible, as if I had never flown in a dream before. Jump up very high, and drop. After a while, I finally got some confidence, and I was moving around in the air. Though uncontrollably. I was about 100 feet off the ground... I felt this was enough space, but I was wrong. As soon as I got a good amount of speed, I took a sharp noise dive straight into the ground. Though it wasn't painful. This is something I have accustomed myself to, and actually love the feeling of free fall that comes along with it. But yeah... I never really got it down.
      Wow, that sucks.

      I remember the first time I ever flew in a LD. It was a flawless motion; I looked at my friend in the dream and said "watch this" before running, jumping into the air, and feeling myself go straight up. I looked down and started to go forward, flying fast. The last part of the dream was me flying in back towards my friend, and doing an almost peter-pan like glide onto the ground.

      What's important to consider though is that I really, truly wanted to fly, and because of that, flying was a very natural motion for me, almost as natural as walking. If you don't really want to fly while in an LD, try something you really want to do, even if it's something you could probably do in RL.

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      After a while, I finally got some confidence, and I was moving around in the air. Though uncontrollably. I was about 100 feet off the ground... I felt this was enough space, but I was wrong. As soon as I got a good amount of speed, I took a sharp noise dive straight into the ground.
      I have the same problem sometimes. It's a matter of controlling the hight. Sometimes I won't be able to keep from going down, though I usually have a harder time not going too high. Try this: grab a stick or some other simple object and tilt it up, down, and to the sides to steer. It works suprisingly well for me. For an example:
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      When you hear that cold wind calling,
      Hold on tight to your dream."
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