Originally Posted by Xei
Hm, well, I'd say discourse about science is certainly philosophy, and indeed science was developed as a conscious philosophical undertaking, but science itself, that is, the body of knowledge ascertained by the scientific method, isn't philosophy.
For instance, the existence of Europa, or indeed the existence of London, are science, but I don't think many people would call them philosophy. What we mean by the existence of Europa, and how we know of its existence, are what philosophy concerns itself with.
All you have to do to understand they share a common ancestor is to look at the etymology. Philosophy means love of knowledge, it doesn't mean to toil in life's most basic paradoxes. That's simply the meaning that remained after every other subject branched into a different field.
I like the show Magical Egypt (which you can find on youtube) about a symbologist's take on Egypt because he often goes back to a quote by Goethe. Paraphrased he said architecture is like frozen music. This is a philosophical statement, but it also looks at Ancient Egypt in new light because the show argues that Egyptians combined art, science, philosophy and religion all into one big study. This is distinct from the Catholic Church oppressing scientific discovery (though as the Egyptian society degraded it may have turned into that) because the scientists were the shot-callers and religion was like a way for the common man to understand the science symbolically. This is argued through the supremely unimaginable complexity and accuracy of the design of their architecture.
It is argued, and I may be stepping into territory you find difficult to swallow, that the architecture of Egypt is a frozen song in a very literal sense. The structure of the shapes and their patterns often create harmonious vibrations through which people have found healing properties and positive vibes. This is from the series Magical Egypt and I recommend you see for yourself. Some concepts, I admit, are contrived but there's still something to take from it. Then, from the mouth of David Wilcock, which I admit is not the most trustworthy, there's this idea that the pyramid shape itself can be built in order to create harmonic functions equivalent to vibrational changes discussed in "What the Bleep do we know?" According to him, building a pyramid which is agreeable with pi and phi in the same way as the pyramids in Egypt, one can neutralize poison, along with a plethora of other transformations akin to healing and preserving life. I don't know if this is true, but I like to think the Egyptians had a completely different interpretation on reality as we did and that it's not necessarily incorrect. We haven't quite substantiated the power of harmonic frequencies yet, but that's not to say we never will. And perhaps something that slows us down is our attachment to the separateness of the buckets. A Behaviorist and a Molecular Geneticist both attempt to possess the truth of evolution while belittling the other. Same with psychologists and neuroscientists, and dozens of other studies. People get so wound up in their particular field, they attempt to filter every possible experience through their field without recognizing that there are so many thousands of different filters one can apply and not one is more true than another. If there is any truth, it is the aggregate. Orange is not more true than yellow, after all.
To conclude, a quote by Goethe, also probably as paraphrased as the last "Science arose from peotry. When times change the two can meet on a higher plane as friends."
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