is there a 50/50 chance that this is an illusion or not real? |
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Is this an either/or fallacy or is it not? |
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Who looks outside, dreams;
who looks inside, awakes.
- Carl Jung
is there a 50/50 chance that this is an illusion or not real? |
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Thank goodness we have Hollywood to come up with such brilliant philosophical ideas. |
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That idea didn't come from Hollywood. |
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it seems like noone can understand this the way i do. it makes perfect sense to me. but its hard to explain. |
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If you take a variable that has two expressions: A and B. It is possible that there is a 50/50 chance it'll express itself either as A or B; however, it's also possible that another unknown factor could influence its expression, and thus could be 60/40, 70/30, 1/99 etc. Without knowing that factor, we can't know the probability (though through continuous observation, say, with flipping a coin, you can reach a reasonable answer). |
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Last edited by Wolfwood; 07-06-2012 at 11:24 AM.
Who looks outside, dreams;
who looks inside, awakes.
- Carl Jung
So the whole thread's conclusion is that this is reality because it's hard to access any possible answers as we have too little knowledge on it? Using dreams as a base, you can try dying and you'll know how much of an illusion this life we're living is now. But the biggest problem for that is you have no idea where you'll end up after you die in this realm. |
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i will try to explain better. i did not mean to select from an infinate number of possibilities. |
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Your post is flawed, you say "I did not mean to select from an infinite number of possibilities". Then you proceed to say "option B: reality is something else" which essentially is infinte. There are over 100 theories which state that we live in a simulation and none have any way of being assigned a probability. |
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Qwer, if you're going to ask whether reality is exactly as we believe it to be or different in some capacity.... I'd wager 10k pounds that it's different in some way to how we currently understand it. Do you think I have a 50/50 chance of being correct? |
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Last edited by Wolfwood; 07-06-2012 at 01:05 PM.
Who looks outside, dreams;
who looks inside, awakes.
- Carl Jung
i guess you are never going to understand it the way i do and i the way you do. |
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Reality is different to how we currently understand it, for we do not have a theory of everything. So, I'll bet you my house that reality is different to how we think it is. Not a bad bet.... because it's 50/50, right? Bet, bet, bet. It doesn't matter whether we're in a dream, in the matrix, a brain in the vat, existing in a multiverse, innumerous dimensions, if we're fundamentally vibrating strings, or born from the unified field or whatever.... because you've classed those all under: different. |
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Last edited by Wolfwood; 07-06-2012 at 01:53 PM.
Who looks outside, dreams;
who looks inside, awakes.
- Carl Jung
How about we do it in another way? Try finding reasons why our current reality is not real. |
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It happened on days when I was really tired. I was climbing the stairs and I was feeling I wasn't entirely the one making decisions to climb the stairs or I couldn't feel much about what I was doing. As I looked at things, I've got a feeling my real eyes are not in front of me, it's way further that that as though the eyes I had were acting as a screen. I bet science can explain why I feel like that. |
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You are basically saying... |
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Who looks outside, dreams;
who looks inside, awakes.
- Carl Jung
Yeah, but you're restricting it to two runners. There are more than two possibilities for the model of reality (known or unknown). |
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Last edited by Wolfwood; 07-06-2012 at 02:23 PM.
Who looks outside, dreams;
who looks inside, awakes.
- Carl Jung
yes i agree, but i think this is were i have trouble explaining what i mean. |
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Just because it's impossible to figure out exactly what the probability is, that doesn't automatically set it at 50/50. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
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