Thread: Are You Truly Self-aware?

I AM letting you have your way, as I've already said countless times in response to the people questioning this thread. People continually forget that I'm not the one interjecting in someone elses' thread. If you don't like or agree with this breakdown of reality then why exactly are you posting in here? What is compelling these people to post the same meaningless point over and over again? I can only think that people are scared I might be right and it somehow gives them some solace to voice their disapproval of the whole intuitive futility of it all. I'm just breaking it down for people, what you choose to do after realizing that fact, is up to you. I'm sorry about bursting bubbles, but sugarcoating existence is just that...sugarcoating.

Thinking about the glass being half-full or half-empty doesn't change the fact that there's only one glass. At least I'm being forthright with the situation. I'm not being negative or positive, I'm just being real. All ways of thinking are equally meaningless, including mine...period.

The internet is a funny tool sometimes, because ones emotions or lack thereof can't really be expressed through the typed symbols we use to communicate. My use of caps wasn't from a heated passionate emphatic feeling to change you, but rather to show how puzzling it is that certain people keep drawing all these deep-seated meanings behind existence, and even more puzzling these same people would feel it necessary to speak their opinion when the initial point of truth behind everything is staring you directly in the face. If you aren't ready to understand the idea I'm presenting here, then it's quite simple- just keep thinking your way is special and move on to another topic. There really isn't anything getting accomplished by bringing up an old point that was already refuted and beaten into the ground 5 pages ago. I'm all about hearing new ideas and reaching new levels of insight, so if you have something new to say I'm all ears. Otherwise, don't bore me with the trivial opinionated nonsense.

Damn, there's too long to read but I have to agree with:
-Ignorance is a bliss
-Finite and infinite are the same
-some other stuff I can't remember
-The point is that there is no point
I just wanted to say, that's all folks.

The reason why it seemed pertinent to me is that you yourself brought it up in reference to why you believe we are not fully self-aware. I don't agree with your evidence, and so instead of skipping a step and arguing against your conclusion, I'd thought I'd break down your evidence instead and explain why I think different conclusions could be drawn from it. This is general practice in debate.

Sorry, man. Off-topic stuff was removed. If you must continue, please do it in PM. Thanks.

Yes, the off topic stuff was removed. This won't be done again, and it is not an available option for the off-topic forums, so don't ask again.

The ONLY thing we will do from now on is CONSIDER locking threads, and only at the request of the member who originated the thread. And just because it is requested doesn't mean it will be done.

My decision to cooperate with this one may well be over-ridden. That remains to be seen.

The off topic forums are not closely moderated. The litter goes with the territory.

Thanks for hearing me out.

Recently I created an electronic/breakbeat song inspired by this idea, in which I attempt to sing. All sounds, including the wind sounds, were made using our new equipment with no use of samples or loops. I'm sure you can imagine that a lot of countless hours went into it, but it was fun. Another version with a better recording of the vocals, my partner in crime's backup vocals for the second half, and his addition of live japanese bamboo flute will be added to this monster later. Consider this an instrumental beta version? Heh.

Anyway, check out the link in my signature, if you got the time. Peace. (^o^)v

'At The Brink', Lyrics:
As you reallign your blurry vision,
You're bound to find your neither dead or living.

As you cast aside what you believe in,
There's no smile or cry that can hide this feeling.

Universal mind don't you know your dreaming?
Neither you nor I has a truth worth seeking.

As you reach inside of your decision,
Open up your mind but there's only one listening.

Eternity is NOW and it's time to realize this but in not realizing it we are playing this game that we have been playing for eternity.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

What if I were to tell you that everyone and everything outside of yourself is a lie? Is that really so hard to believe? We do it to ourselves all the time in our dreams, how is this ANY different? We can only verify 'self' so why work from anywhere but there?

As the self-aware self, we need to step away from any separation we may have from any object here. Remember, we all came from the FINITE objects within INIFINTY, right? That means we, too, are INFINITY... Now it's time to try and be aware of that fact...

(If you followed some of my previous posts perhaps you'll recognize this)
There are two things we can choose to do in this life...

(Heading towards '0') Eternal Escape of Truth...where you remain in the middle of this dream taking turns being everyone and everything, one by one, thinking that all these simple FINITE figments of collective imagination are more than something you, as INFINITY created.
Or,
(Heading towards '1') Eternal Pursuit of Truth...where you confront this psychosis called reality head on, and realize that in the end it can ONLY be you that exists.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

It's quite simple you either head towards, 'alpha' or 'omega', a '1' or a '0'...in this binary universe.

i've tried to read through a lot of this thread, but i'm sure i've missed stuff, so i'll apologize in advance. i agree with some things that have been said, but definitely disagree with others.

here's my biggest issue: do people seriously believe in a "binary universe"? really?? a) you believe in a single, capital-T, defining Truth that you have found, and b) you believe people can only be escaping it or pursuing it, one or the other? on truth, i don't believe in it. on binaries, they are a fabrication. our construction of language and the direction society has taken has led us to find it idyllic to reduce everything to some computerized representation through 0's and 1's. we thrive on oppositions--heaven and hell, life and death, black and white, up and down, good and evil, etc. i would agree that we have a binary society, but not an inherently binary universe. that's not the way i think we should be perceiving. i don't have a perfect answer, but i think things are a lot more complex, nuanced, and chaotic than that.

i'm not trying to be antagonistic, so let me know if there's something i'm not understanding.

While this binary system isn't the ultimate truth I spoke of that ever eludes us, it is a practical one.

The link I posted on the first page really does an excellent job explaining the order to the chaos... Admist seemingly complex chaotic groupings, no matter how complex and chaotic they may seem, they always boil down to an alpha and omega. Of course, I realized this on my own without having to read that page but it admittedly does a better job than I could do explaining it.


HERE is the link again. In case you can't or don't make the time to read it here is the main idea taken directly from the site....


"The electrons in a carbon atom in the human brain are connected to the subatomic particles that comprise every salmon that swims, every heart that beats, and every star that shimmers in the sky. Everything interpenetrates everything, and although human nature may seek to categorize and pigeonhole and subdivide the various phenomena of the universe, all apportionments are of necessity artificial and all of nature is ultimately a seamless web."
— Michael Talbot

Forgive me if I'm late, I have a few things to talk about.

I don't understand how those diagrams are relevant. Can you please explain them?

And Solskye, I can't believe you haven't expanded on your philosophy from your viewpoint. I mean, tell us about how you believe. What's it like everyday in your life? Do you think I am you? What do you think of your parents? How does this increase emotion?

I’m not trying to be difficult here, but: If I understand correctly, every other human being, and anything else in existence is perceived as you, right? So why is it that you can only control your own body and mind? And how can you be taught and learn from people, if you are the only one?

Originally Posted by SolSkye

The less people know, the happier they are, and the more they want to know...
The converse: The more people know, the less happy they are, and the less they want to know...

Haha, yeah. When I was a young kid, everything made sense.

Sometimes it’s “The more people know, the more they want to know…”

Originally Posted by SolSkye

Currently, on the whole, we have become sheep that have been bred to idolize material goods and superficiality. We look up to supermodels, and superstars as these important beings and in turn see ourselves as lesser beings, be it consciously or subconsciously. Most of us get caught up in all the trivial meaningless distractions of life, and try to do anything to keep from looking inwards; TV, shopping, and other mindless distractions at all times of the day. All there to keep you from looking inward. We are told to go to school, so we can get a job, in order to buy useless things we have been told we need. None of those things matter. As an interconnected unit, we have ignored ourselves far too long now. As a result, global population has spiraled out of control, we are at the brink of destroying our planet, and expending resources at a faster rate than we can replenish them without a care in the world. Why is that? In essence, if you ignore yourself, you ignore the environment around you... Other animals understand things more than we give them credit for.

So if you have believed that YOU are everything, why hasn’t your world changed for the better? Is that what you mean?

Originally Posted by jedimind

If it depresses you to know the true nature of reality then you don't truly understand.

We would be lucky if anyone understands true nature of reality. Not even scientists know.

Originally Posted by Merlock

Oh, for blazes sake. If you all don't see the meaning of life in the concept of society then what are you still doing alive?

Suicide => enter a new life => realise it's "meaningless" => repeat.

Case in point, you live and you have those you care for, to any extent. Without anyone at all to the slightest degree special to you there would indeed be absolutely no point to life even from the subjective point of view (sadness/depression due to loneliness, etc.). Don't understimate the concept of other beings in existence, it's really quite insulting.

I feel for you to some point, however, you can’t tell someone to have a certain meaning of life. Ones meaning of life is based on the morals, culture and the attitude of the individual. Don’t take it personally what Solskye’s views are either.

I used to think of life in terms of the latest coverage from science. Despite the point of this thread, science says we are chemical bodies; we are chemical reactions. But then, so what about science? Science doesn’t really prove anything, does it? People can’t say, “Oh I don’t believe in religion, I believe in science” it’s just stupid. Think about it. Are we alive? Then why? Going back, surely the beginning of everything, known as the “Big Bang” can’t just ‘bang’ when there is nothing to begin with. So there is no point in existing? That’s where religion overrules science. Being human, it just feels wrong, for everything to exist because of an accident, because of nothing, because of no one. Even if our conscience might be an illusion, the point remains the same. That’s where Solskye’s philosophy comes in. It is the most interesting and most reasonable to date (for me), if I’m understanding it properly.

As I've said before: Things change, but nothing really changes. We, as a whole cast the dice and believe we are shifting our consciousness 4 steps forward or backward when the piece we control and move is still the same. Components of ourselves just shift in accordance to balance out the supposed change of mind. As you lengthen life expectancy and improve standards of living, global population spirals out of control and we hurt other ecosystems and species. As things get better on the micro, they get worse on the macro. There simply is no free gain. Sure, you can think your life is better or worse than it was yesterday, but that really isn't the case. You life is no better or worse than it is RIGHT NOW. It's all a matter of how you perceive a given moment, the moment itself however, always remains the same... And, that's the sad (or happy?) truth of it. The pursuit of something better is the lie. We are a single objective rational mind confusing itself with subjective irrational experiences.

So, even if I did explain to you my subjective terms of how great or piss-poor the state of my life and mind are in right now, it really is of no consequence. I simply am what I always have been...and THAT realization is priceless. Unlike the subjective shell I inhabit.

Heres's something I just came up with to sum it all up;
It doesn't matter what you are, it doesn't matter what you see. Cuz, you're always gonna be, what you're always gonna be. Ever-changing dance of duality.

So if we weren't being confused by irrational experiences, what would we be doing?

If anything, just be happy. Even if it doesn't matter, or change anything, we all know it is better, even you do, you can't deny that, surely.

I think of it this way: We cast the dice, when there is a playing board - and until it is gone, the dice are useless.

If almost everything is considered useless with the real truth, then why should it be searched for? Isn't it pointless?

Here's the thing I've also said before...

The dice, the playing board, and the piece are ultimately the same, though. Just as lucid dream characters would try and convince you otherwise about your realization of the dream. It still doesn't make the dream any less a creation of your mind.

While, yes, like any dream it is pointless... therein lies the point. If we weren't confused by these irrational experiences we would probably just be this ceaseless thought of, I AM. Pretty much how a baby in the womb seems before it gathers any of it's experiences. Just remember though, the next time you feel you have to do or attain something in order to be happy or content, none of it is really necessary or amounts to anything in the end, anyway. It's all just one big roller coaster ride of the self. Not real, but not fake, either. A contradiction...free of any real meaning or purpose. Kind of like something I came across from Bill Hicks, Positive Drug Story...anyway, this realization is nothing new

Therefore, you can feel as happy or as sad as you've ever felt at any moment in time for as long as you please. That is, if one was aware enough to know that it's all in your head, anyway.

Although, even feeling good for too long would become a nightmare...that's where having balance comes in. Learning to accept both the parts of yourself, not just one.

Definitely a very interesting topic.

So Solskye, are you truly self aware? You mentioned before that you are 'naturally a 1'.

Originally Posted by really

Definitely a very interesting topic.

So Solskye, are you truly self aware? You mentioned before that you are 'naturally a 1'.

Meh, I would like to say so. However, I do know this one thing; I will ALWAYS be on the move. Because as Newton broke it down, an object at rest tends to stay at rest, and an object already in motion tends to stay in motion with constant speed in a straight line path unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.

Since the eternal moment is all interconnected parts of themselves (past, present, future, everyone, and everything), by association that would mean eternity, itself, could never come to a complete standstill at either end of the spectrum because that would then negate all of existence- or the eternal timeless moment as it stands... RIGHT NOW.

So, basically what a '1' person is actually attempting to reach for is an impossibility, and likewise, what a '0' person is striving to reach for is equally impossible...both viewpoints are salmon swimming against currents created of themselves...Catch 22 universe...YIPPEE

Essentially, both paths are meaningless and pointless directions within the dichotomy of your ever-changing self. But again, since you are indeed in motion at this very moment that means you could never truly reach a complete standstill, or you'd be in that standstill eternally... which of course includes, RIGHT NOW... so learn to how to enjoy the balance and chaos of yourself and you can slow yourself to a manageable, and comfortable level of control, nearing that of perfection but knowing you'll never quite get there. Because, that's about as good as it gets.


Here's some lyrics to a new song I'm working on, called 'Teardrops'...

I'd follow you forever,
Like the teardrops in my mind.

Footprints of the lonliness,
For you to find.

One step away from darkness,
Two steps from the truth,
Three steps from the mirror,
That reveals me to you.


It's my first song where I attempt to write about the idea of love. Pretty trippy imagery, if you ask me. I prefer darker, deeper, mind-boggling imagery to something surface-level in thought, simple, and boring like, 'You and me driving down the strip in a car together'...YUCK!

Anyway, I'll letcha know when I finish it. So far, I only have a 8 bar beat and phrase. I really need to evolve it more.

For those that are interested, I just finished the Instrumental Version of 'Teardrops'. I would put the lyrics in there but I'd honestly prefer a woman to sing them.

Click the signature link to check it out.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

For those that are interested, I just finished the Instrumental Version of 'Teardrops'. I would put the lyrics in there but I'd honestly prefer a woman to sing them.

Click the signature link to check it out.

Nice tunes! I thought the arp in the background was a little too continuous but perhaps with vocals, the whole focus could change.

Good work.

Hey, and how did you come across that website in your first post? It's wow.

I came across that site randomly, actually...

No one else have anything interesting or insightful to add to this thread?

How many times are you going to revive your dead thread?

What's it to you?

Your condescension and off-topic noise was previously removed. Obviously you aren't welcome or wanted in this discussion, so simply take a deep breath...and click another topic...

Seriously, does it hurt your eyes that much to see someone elses topic you couldn't positively contribute to, at the top?

Grow up...

Still dodging questions I see.

Irrelevance requires no need for a response...

Now slink back from whence you came, before I have call a mod to clean up your mess again...

Ok, I have a quesiton.

Does this embrace non-dualism?