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      Can Lucid Dreams be used to talk with God?

      Okay, I know you kind of have to believe in God to understand my point of view with this question... but has anyone ever tried to talk with God in a lucid dream? I haven't tried yet because i haven't had a long enough lucid yet to be able to.. but I wanted to know what people's opinions were on this.. I was in a lucid dream the other day and about 10 seconds in things were starting to fade as usual, so I started praying for the dream to last longer, and I started to hear music and the dream remained for another minute.. I looked around at the scenery and asked if God was in dreams but I woke up before I was able to do anything else.. I'd like to be able to try again and maybe attempt to talk with God.. but I just don't know if this is treading on dangerous biblical ground or not.. has anyone here tried it or what do you think about it and is it possible?

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      hmm i personally do not know if i believe in God or not. but i mean if he does exist im sure it would be possible if he allowed it. but then again, how would you ever know if it was really god you were talking to or just a dc.

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      Well you wouldnt know but maybe he can give you life advice and stuff and that might help with comferting you. i think talking to god in a dream would be peaceful

      I was always a dreamer, in childhood especially. People thought I was a little strange.-Charley pride

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      I never thought about this before, it sounds like a good idea to try out. But how can you be sure it is Him you are talking to/seeing? I guess since God can do anything, He can probably appear in people's dreams, but I think it's impossible to know for sure. I think I'll give this a try sometime
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      Yah, I'm kind of worried about that too.. I don't wanna think I am talking to God and then have it just be a dream character I am talking too.. but then again if it really is God you're talking to, I guess you'll just know..

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      It sounds like to me you believe God is fundamentally separate from creation, where there is your problem!!! (its everyones problem, don't feel bad)

      Just as God can speak through a human being (such as Jesus), God can speak through an ant, or a tree, or even yourself if you wanted to allow God to speak through you. If you believe that God can not speak through you, or any other regular person, then by default you actually are limiting what God can or can not do. And a lot of Christians put all sorts of silly rules of what God can or can not do.

      I've thought about this in the past before. I've actually had at least two dream characters come up to me and say "I am God". But all I saw was a regular person.

      What was I expecting God to look like anyways?

      I had a battle in my mind! What if God did come into my dream? What would God look like? That's when I realized how silly my questions were. To imagine that God can some how visit me in my dream, is to imagine that God is a singular entity that exists in a singular place in time. When the bible tells us that God is omnipresent, beginning and end - which basically means that God is also everything in the middle!

      This means I don't need to wait for God to visit my dream - because according to the bible - God is already omnipresent in my dream.

      The omnipresent God is already in your dream, in all of your conscious dream characters, and in you for that matter too. In the bible Jesus prays for humanity to realize their unity with God. Instead we've fooled ourselves into believing that God is a distant God.

      The idea that God is distant makes us feel that now we need to be worthy of God. That we need to be worthy before we can hear God.

      I don't think this idea that you need to be worthy of God is a lie, no, I think it's a sin! Adam and Eve were 'perfect' until they felt 'ashamed'. Our 'sin' is that we believe we are unworthy of God. Or being unworthy of all that is good, such as love.

      Its a psychological problem most of us grew up with, and it can take a long time to accept that you can be One with God right now - if you didn't feel unworthy of it.

      BTW, if you have ever heard someone speak from unconditional love, congratulations, you did hear God - at least God as the Holy Spirit through a human vessel. But you probably meant hearing God as God the Creator/Father. Well my advice is, you first need to hear God as the quiet still voice within you first. You know, intuition. Listening to our own intuition is the first step to listening to the Creator.

      Can you talk to God in a dream? You can do more than that. You can feel God's very presence within you. Question is, are you willing and ready? Twice in a dream I asked to be taken to heaven. It was too much to handle! I ended both dreams.





      Also I wanted to say:

      It's my belief we are here on earth to realize our unity with God. God the Creator does NOT want to appear or speak to you in a dream in such a way that convinces you that you are fundamentally separate from God.
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      If you mean can you talk to the universal mind/higher self.....I believe so. Something communicated with me one morning which i think was a higher self/God..it was very brief but i got it.

      There's a video of a guy talking about how he was talking to his higher self in a lucid dream.

      YouTube - A Meeting With My Higher Self? Part 1

      I personally believe that everyone is god of his or her own universe...and each universal mind is connected to each other in some way.
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      I never thought about this before, it sounds like a good idea to try out. But how can you be sure it is Him you are talking to/seeing? I guess since God can do anything, He can probably appear in people's dreams, but I think it's impossible to know for sure. I think I'll give this a try sometime
      Yah, I'm kind of worried about that too.. I don't wanna think I am talking to God and then have it just be a dream character I am talking too.. but then again if it really is God you're talking to, I guess you'll just know..
      like i said im sure it will provide some comfort and who knows maybe he will give you some good advice! weather its him or not..

      I was always a dreamer, in childhood especially. People thought I was a little strange.-Charley pride

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      juroara, i agree with what you're saying.. God is with and around us all the time, and praying is essentially talking to God. but I'm just wondering if it might be possible for God to manifest as a being in dreams or maybe even just a voice that you can talk with and ask questions to.. I mean, it certainly is possible I just wonder if God approves of someone attempting such a thing... God certainly speaks to people through regular dreams, I've had several such dreams myself.. but I wonder if it's also possible to speak with Him in a lucid dream.. or if it's something that He doesn't want people messing with.

      like i said im sure it will provide some comfort and who knows maybe he will give you some good advice!
      I would love for this to be possible.. I just wonder if God approves of someone attempting to talk with Him in a lucid dream?
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      I also agree with juroara
      god speaks to us all the time. all around us and in us is god including our dreams. so god speaks to you in your dreams as well. now the problem is to actually start listening. Below is something i felt about god sometime ago.

      "The God"

      I am a god
      And so do you
      Don't laugh at me
      Because it's true
      Look around you
      Look inside of you
      Let the nature in you
      Give yourself to her
      And you will see
      That you are god
      Cause She is coming
      Cause you are her
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      Quote Originally Posted by Euphoria7 View Post
      but I wonder if it's also possible to speak with Him in a lucid dream.. or if it's something that He doesn't want people messing with.


      I would love for this to be possible.. I just wonder if God approves of someone attempting to talk with Him in a lucid dream?

      I personally believe you never need Gods approval to speak or be with God. It's my belief, your inherent right. And I understand what you mean about wanting to see or hear something that you consider divine. Is this desire really deep?

      I know that I've encountered some strange ideas from Christians who think you shouldn't lucid dream because God is trying to send you a message, and that you can't talk to God at all in a lucid dream, because you're lucid and being lucid is wrong.

      They think being lucid is wrong because you take control of the dream and stop God from communicating with you. I find all of these ideas silly for several reasons!

      For one, in my opinion we don't control the dream. We interact with it! If you want to see a tree in your dream, you didn't design the tree, your subconscious does. And it gives itself a lot of creative leg room regardless of how you interact with it.

      Second, this interaction doesn't begin with lucidity - you are always interacting and influencing the dream. In a non-lucid if you think monster, you get monster. Same thing happens if you are lucid! The interaction we have in the dream didn't change, only our awareness that we interact with the dream. That's all lucidity is, is awareness. And if you're not aware of your communication with God, well then, in one ear and out the other

      Three, to say that God can't communicate with you while lucid - that's just more silly rules believers put on God! Actually, its FEAR. And I know, because I feel that way a lot. I grew up roman catholic with all sorts of ideas that I needed to be worthy of God, or hang my head in shame. It's taken a long time for me to see God very differently. And I can thank NDEs for that. And according to NDEs, God is a blissful God. God is always happy for you to want to be one or communicate with God - always. Doesn't matter if you think you're doing it wrong.

      But - what I was also trying to explain was I believe we are here for a reason. And that's to recognize our unity with God. And sometimes wanting to see God manifest as a being - that only cements in our mind that God is separate from us. And that would actually set you further back on the spiritual path. And God doesn't want to send you backwards, God wants to send you forwards. And forwards means recognizing unity.

      I think you should try to come up with creative ways to communicate with God in your lucid dream, that you think could help you also recognize your unity with God. Instead of saying "God" you can try saying God's name according to the bible inside of your lucid dream. Actually, shout it! While keeping the intention to communicate with God.

      God's biblical name is I AM! Or I AM WHO I AM. Or I AM THAT I AM! It's impossible to say Gods name without putting yourself in it

      Visualizations might help. You can imagine some shaft of light connecting you to God, you can imagine you are a leaf of a tree - and God is the tree. Or I dunno. Maybe you can imagine in your dream that God is this ball of light residing in you. Or maybe the ball of light is actually a universe. Place it in your head or your heart. And in your lucid dream you pull out this ball of light so you can directly speak with it.

      Pfffff..I need to get lucid so I can try that!


      Happy dreaming

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      Quote Originally Posted by kenietz View Post

      "The God"

      I am a god
      And so do you
      Don't laugh at me
      Because it's true
      Look around you
      Look inside of you
      Let the nature in you
      Give yourself to her
      And you will see
      That you are god
      Cause She is coming
      Cause you are her

      I only have one thing to say......Surrender!!

      Ive only felt that way in brief brief moments. Thanks for writing. I've been trying to write something similar but I'm always afraid I'll get it all wrong.

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      Yep
      im thankful i managed to catch that moment and write it down as it came to me.

      Btw i showed that thing to some of my friends and they got offended somehow. Got angry that i wrote this. Because who am i to think that im god. E im nobody ive seen that already but god is nobody and everything as well. As one other person have put it "we are gods in development". I believe in that.

      Another thing. As they say in 'DUNE' - "Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration". So when you feel something and you wanna write it down. DO that. Its like when you feel in love with smb. If you feel it you have to share it. Otherwise is lost feeling. No?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Euphoria7 View Post
      juroara, i agree with what you're saying.. God is with and around us all the time, and praying is essentially talking to God. but I'm just wondering if it might be possible for God to manifest as a being in dreams or maybe even just a voice that you can talk with and ask questions to.. I mean, it certainly is possible I just wonder if God approves of someone attempting such a thing... God certainly speaks to people through regular dreams, I've had several such dreams myself.. but I wonder if it's also possible to speak with Him in a lucid dream.. or if it's something that He doesn't want people messing with.


      I would love for this to be possible.. I just wonder if God approves of someone attempting to talk with Him in a lucid dream?
      Why would God disprove? How is it different from prayer? Weren't many of the prophets dreamers?

      Anyway, back to first question. Yes, you can talk to God in a lucid dream. I definitely recommend it. Please post your results.
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      Ahhh, how can I explain this son? God is not real, nor is santa, sorry.

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      This is not the place to discuss the existance of god, Mike02.

      I've seen you post quite a lot of off-topic nonsense. Time to calm down, perhaps?

      Interesting view on god, juarora Good read.
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      I called God on the phone once in a lucid dream. We talked briefly about a relationship I once had with someone. He couldn't talk long though, because he was a bit busy and had to go. After talking to him (I was in a house on a phone), I jumped out a window and started flying.

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      Quote Originally Posted by WakingNomad View Post
      Why would God disprove? How is it different from prayer? Weren't many of the prophets dreamers?

      Anyway, back to first question. Yes, you can talk to God in a lucid dream. I definitely recommend it. Please post your results.
      I meant to say disapprove, not disprove.
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      Ive met god in one of my dreams where i was killed by a daemon. I actually met 'GOD' and 'DEATH' together. After i died in my dream i flew to the place they were but they were tooooo enormous to comprehend or perceive visually. I just knew it was them. They had some chat some laughter. I didnt understand what they say though but they gave me a necklace with a small cross on it and let me go by foot. On the way down(they were on some sort of really big mountain) i was thinking why they let me go by foot when i flew before and about the meaning of the cross they gave me. Im not religious person i have to say. But that dream made me understand what my father told me once - "that everyone has to carry his own cross".

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      I also think it has a lot to the with God approving the conversation... you are certainly able to Request, to speak directly to him...

      but i also agree with juorara... its not that we are worthy of being in contact with God or not... which would mean, he will always be open to talk to you.. based on these two things, in my opinion it depends on how true your intentions are...
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      As a Panentheist, I believe that all creation is God, and that God is imminent and transcendental to creation. In fact, creation is not a good word, because it is not created.

      Anyway, so, all things that talk are God. In a dream, you can have a conversation with your idea of God. God also lives in your idea of God. To the degree that you are surrendered and without own biases and prejudices and assumptions is the degree of wisdom and truth that can be channeled.

      Can God consciously and willfully choose to override our limited conceptions and force truth on us? That is a good question. I think that we would have to be asking for it subconsciously.

      God does not disapprove of anything. God is everything, and more. That is why God manifests our desires and beliefs, however twisted. We can never offend God, only ourselves. Trying to talk to God is perhaps the noblest aspiration that has ever evolved in this Universe next to trying to find God in each other.
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      I once had a dream where I became lucid and I thought to ask to see God, as with all my LD's I shouted this request verbally, immediately it was as though a giant vacuum had been turned on above me, I was sucked upwards at high speed and when the movement stopped I was in a place of nothing solid, just colored lights. I awoke shortly after. I am not claiming anything here, I have no clue what happened there, just wanted to share the experience.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mike02 View Post
      Ahhh, how can I explain this son? God is not real, nor is santa, sorry.
      no trolling please
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      When i was teeny i thought love didnt exist but it does. Then i thought the same about god but i was wrong about that as well Now i know that these two are one and the same thing.
      Denial is something that we go through if we are lucky But as i have read somewhere "the more i work, the luckier i get". So we have to work on ourselves.
      Questioning is healthy process though.

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      i've been eager to try this but i've been struggling lately trying to attain lucidity so as soon as i have a lucid dream and am able to try this I will post back with my results

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