Used to go to it. Not really for me anymore. met some lifelong friends there. |
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Alcoholics Anonymous is a spiritual program to help people stop their obsession for using and craving drugs and alcohol. I'm a member! |
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"Do, or do not. There is no try." ~Yoda
Used to go to it. Not really for me anymore. met some lifelong friends there. |
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The Best of my dream journal
MoSh: How about you stop trying to define everything, and just accept what you experience, and explore it.
- From the DJ of Waking Nomad!
The best advice in the 'Big Book' are the first three words on page 112. |
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...which are? |
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Page 112 is in the chapter, 'To Wives' |
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are you still sober persay? I dont think I would be able too without it at this point |
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"Do, or do not. There is no try." ~Yoda
well i don't think I was ever a "real" alcoholic as described in the book. I was just a confused kid at the time. Nowadays I may have a beer or two and then leave it alone... for one i hate getting drunk and having hangovers.. plus it kills my dream recall. |
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The Best of my dream journal
MoSh: How about you stop trying to define everything, and just accept what you experience, and explore it.
- From the DJ of Waking Nomad!
I still remember an old joke. A newcommer woman was told by her sponsor, "to read the page on sex read page 96". but insstead the newcommer was confused and started reading 69... now start reading the first paragraph of 69. |
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MoSh: How about you stop trying to define everything, and just accept what you experience, and explore it.
- From the DJ of Waking Nomad!
Calling AA an spiritual program is the fastest way to put people off of it. |
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No, I'm not an alcoholic, so I never have. I'm smart enough to enjoy alcohol in moderation. |
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But not smart enough to not speak about something you've never looked into. |
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I figured it wasn't spiritual because I know that judges can and have ordered people to attend meetings. Now I see that that is clearly unconstitutional. |
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Extract from page 26 & 27: |
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What's the date from that story? I see that AA is very old, and psychiatry is a relatively new science and has made hug leaps forwards 1935. There is very little that has remained the same since then actually. |
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I have met at least a hundred people that have spent time in the best treatment facilities in the UK and every single one of them relapsed or knew that it would be inevitable that they would drink again. Modern psychotherapy is useless concerning the recovery of a hopeless alcoholic. The only solution these people found was working throught the 12 Step Program of Recovery of Alcoholics Anonymous. |
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I am now speaking as a recovered alcoholic. Alcoholism is as fatal as cancer or heart disease. It not only destroys the life of the alcoholic but also the lives of those close to the alcoholic. This is not a medical forum or a forum related to 12 Step Recovery. On reflection I believe this thread should be locked in case mis-information is transmitted to any still suffering alcoholics that may be visiting this forum. That's just my humble opinion. |
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Step 2: Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. |
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Last edited by ninja9578; 12-22-2010 at 10:23 PM.
The relapse rate for all addiction programs is ridiculously high (ever see Intervention?), the best drug abuse treatment is preventative. |
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If anyone here reading this thread is a suffering alcoholic or drug addict I strongly urge you to ignore this thread and to visit these Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous Conference Approved website links below: |
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Or you could just read this thread with an open mind and check out the facts for yourselves. |
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I never understood the religious aspect of AA. It was the one thing that prevented someone very close to me from going to the meetings. I always figured that maybe it was the act of submitting to the power of the disease that humbled a person and allowed them to enter into treatment with the proper mindset, but the overt references to the Christian God completely ruins that for non-Christians. This person still erroneously believes they can quit drinking whenever they want to. |
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"Someday, I think you and I are going to have a serious disagreement." -- Hawkeye (Daniel Day-Lewis) Last of the Mohicans
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