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      My Opinion

      My opinion

      It ain't going to happen anything like me or you or any human thinks.

      Like the Bible says, gods thoughts are higher than our thought and his way higher than our ways.

      Our way is to have someone to look to and rely on. But it ain't entered into the mind-of-man what god has instore for him.

      In my third enlightenment, (1975) in an unimaginable place, someone identifying himself as god said:

      "I brought you into being to serve you". Then a nonverble wave of understanding came over me where I knew what he meant.

      He meant, in his reality, from his perspective, there is only the Two of us. I, (debraJaneDixon) am at the center of his universe. Everything else is him, (god). And the only relationship he has with me is: He loves me deeply, completely, personally and without conditions.

      From gods perspective

      Everything is him serving only me. Everyone and everything is only him obeying me and serving me

      If only I could move fully into HIS reality.

      Well I think god has the same relationship with EVERY living entity. As in:

      You (!!!) are the only thing that existes in the universe, to GOD. To GOD apart from you everything else is God loving and serving, (obeying) just you.

      You are the center of the universe, (to GOD) and everyone else and everything else is him obeying, serving and unconditionally loving you.

      This, (in my opinion) is what we are comming into. There will be no leader, only a vast revelation.
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      Quote Originally Posted by debrajane View Post
      If only I could move fully into HIS reality.

      Well I think god has the same relationship with EVERY living entity. As in:

      You (!!!) are the only thing that existes in the universe, to GOD. To GOD apart from you everything else is God loving and serving, (obeying) just you.

      You are the center of the universe, (to GOD) and everyone else and everything else is him obeying, serving and unconditionally loving you.

      This, (in my opinion) is what we are comming into. There will be no leader, only a vast revelation.
      Maitreya has given us something to enable us to move towards this kind of relationship. The Prayer for the New Age, given by Maitreya the Christ, is a great mantram or affirmation with an invocative effect. Using this prayer will enable one to recognize that man and God are one, that there is no separation. The 'I' is the Divine Principle behind all creation. The Self emanates from, and is identical to, the Divine Principle.

      The most effective way to use this mantram is to say or think the words with focused will, the attention at the ajna chakra between the eyebrows. When the mind grasps the meaning of the concept and, simultaneously, the will is brought to bear, then those concepts will be activated and the mantram will work. If it is said seriously every day, there will grown inside you a realization of your true Self.

      Prayer for the New Age

      I am the creator of the universe.
      I am the father and mother of the universe.
      Everything comes from me.
      Everything shall return to me.
      Mind, spirit and body are my temples,
      for the self to realize in them
      My supreme being and becoming.

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      No.

      Ok

      No.

      Many folk who got a liberation, (like me) went silent. I think that the enlightened went silent because there were no concepts available in their culture and language to accuratley talk about their full-on enlightenment.

      The bit they tried to say about it was taken-up by folk who had not had the same level of experiece. And as they wrote about it, naturally, they got it all wrong.

      I am not god. I never was god and I never will be god.

      That mantrum is powerless. Sorry.



      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      Maitreya has given us something to enable us to move towards this kind of relationship. The Prayer for the New Age, given by Maitreya the Christ, is a great mantram or affirmation with an invocative effect. Using this prayer will enable one to recognize that man and God are one, that there is no separation. The 'I' is the Divine Principle behind all creation. The Self emanates from, and is identical to, the Divine Principle.

      The most effective way to use this mantram is to say or think the words with focused will, the attention at the ajna chakra between the eyebrows. When the mind grasps the meaning of the concept and, simultaneously, the will is brought to bear, then those concepts will be activated and the mantram will work. If it is said seriously every day, there will grown inside you a realization of your true Self.

      Prayer for the New Age

      I am the creator of the universe.
      I am the father and mother of the universe.
      Everything comes from me.
      Everything shall return to me.
      Mind, spirit and body are my temples,
      for the self to realize in them
      My supreme being and becoming.
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      Quote Originally Posted by debrajane View Post
      Ok

      No.

      Many folk who got a liberation, (like me) went silent. I think that the enlightened went silent because there were no concepts available in their culture and language to accuratley talk about their full-on enlightenment.

      The bit they tried to say about it was taken-up by folk who had not had the same level of experiece. And as they wrote about it, naturally, they got it all wrong.

      I am not god. I never was god and I never will be god.

      That mantrum is powerless. Sorry.
      To understand this better you can use this anaolgy. Imagine the you are a drop of water and that you are floating above an ocean that extends in every direction that is limitless. The ocean is God. Now imagine that you, the drop of water, falls into the ocean. You are still that drop of water but you have merged with the ocean, God. This way it is easy to comprehend that you can be God at the same time as being you. Im sure you understand the idea that you have a soul. The soul is that part of your being that is perfect, timeless and eternal. From a completely accurate esoteric and occult viewpoint the soul is actually impermanent and is a reflection of the Monad, which is your true beingness at its very deepest level.

      The mantram is powerful but you say that it isn't because you have no practical experience with it. If you were to say it carefully with serious intention twice a day for fifteen minutes at a time then I guarantee that within one year you would have at least one experience that would confirm to you your 'Godhood.'
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      I was shocked.

      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      To understand this better you can use this anaolgy. Imagine the you are a drop of water and that you are floating above an ocean that extends in every direction that is limitless. The ocean is God. Now imagine that you, the drop of water, falls into the ocean. You are still that drop of water but you have merged with the ocean, God. This way it is easy to comprehend that you can be God at the same time as being you. Im sure you understand the idea that you have a soul. The soul is that part of your being that is perfect, timeless and eternal. From a completely accurate esoteric and occult viewpoint the soul is actually impermanent and is a reflection of the Monad, which is your true beingness at its very deepest level.

      The mantram is powerful but you say that it isn't because you have no practical experience with it. If you were to say it carefully with serious intention twice a day for fifteen minutes at a time then I guarantee that within one year you would have at least one experience that would confirm to you your 'Godhood.'
      Thank you for your interest in talking to me about this, mcwillis.


      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      To understand this better you can use this anaolgy.

      Imagine the you are a drop of water and that you are floating above an ocean that extends in every direction that is limitless. The ocean is God.

      Now imagine that you, the drop of water, falls into the ocean.

      You are still that drop of water but you have merged with the ocean, God.

      This way it is easy to comprehend that you can be God at the same time as being you.

      Im sure you understand the idea that you have a soul.

      The soul is that part of your being that is perfect, timeless and eternal.

      From a completely accurate esoteric and occult viewpoint the soul is actually impermanent and is a reflection of the Monad, which is your true beingness at its very deepest level.

      The mantram is powerful but you say that it isn't because you have no practical experience with it.

      If you were to say it carefully with serious intention twice a day for fifteen minutes at a time then I guarantee that within one year you would have at least one experience that would confirm to you your 'Godhood.'
      I am thrilled, mcwillis, that you love me enough to take the time to explain this. I feel gratitude.

      At 13 to 15 Mum and I attended nightly meetings, (and the occasional day meeting and heard these wonderful analogies. Later mum and I gave similar stories and examples to other folk in meetings to try and explain important spiritual concepts.

      Then at 15 I, spontainiously, had three enlightenments. These contradicted what I had learned, (and taught).

      These analogies have been used by high-spiritual masters, for eons, to prepare souls for the Truth. And these analogies will probably be used for eons to come, for the same end.

      I am happy that you take the time to give them to me.

      Believe me, I was shocked when I was given an audience with ... The voice ... and he said what he said.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      To understand this better you can use this anaolgy. Imagine the you are a drop of water and that you are floating above an ocean that extends in every direction that is limitless. The ocean is God. Now imagine that you, the drop of water, falls into the ocean. You are still that drop of water but you have merged with the ocean, God. This way it is easy to comprehend that you can be God at the same time as being you.
      This analogy breaks down because once a drop of water is put in the ocean, it's no longer a drop of water. A drop of water has, for instance, surface tension that gives it an inside and an outside.

      If you're just a junky for warm, fuzzy feelings though, then please don't let me interrupt you.
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      Quote Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned View Post
      This analogy breaks down because once a drop of water is put in the ocean, it's no longer a drop of water. A drop of water has, for instance, surface tension that gives it an inside and an outside.
      Of course this is true. But I know that you cannot come up with a better explanation to the one I provided.

      Quote Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned View Post
      If you're just a junky for warm, fuzzy feelings though, then please don't let me interrupt you.
      If the opening post comes true and your beliefs are shattered I won't be smug and belittle you on this forum as I'm not as immature as you. It is so true that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
      Last edited by mcwillis; 04-21-2012 at 01:50 AM.

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