How about your inability to counter our arguments, you basing arguments on your own definition of words. There's no talk here, everything you have posted is congruent with the manner in which trolls or self delusional people speak. |
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You are using very poor logic. Let me help. |
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How about your inability to counter our arguments, you basing arguments on your own definition of words. There's no talk here, everything you have posted is congruent with the manner in which trolls or self delusional people speak. |
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You have to have faith in something, and then your faith is backed by what you live. So yes it's material to that extent you can see it manifest in your life as you live it, and you can see the effects, you can measure the effects. If you want to claim your logic is material, you have to back it up with rules that you can state clearly and measure. |
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Last edited by Deanstar; 08-31-2014 at 10:01 PM.
How is it inconsistent? 125 times infinity is the same thing as 2 plus infinity. Just like 3+2 and 6-1 result in the same thing. Just like 2+2 is the same as 2 times 2, or 2 to the power of 2. They are all the same thing. How is any of this inconsistent? |
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-125 is a different thing to 2 minus -1. You are just trying to confuse the obvious arn't you. |
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Infinity is not a number. |
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It seems I have to make it very simple, or you will simply argue. In fact no matter how simple I make things, or how complex. You argue regardless. That is your goal. To argue no matter what sense it makes. Even when it's verified you argue again. It's a joke.... |
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Last edited by Deanstar; 08-31-2014 at 10:23 PM.
You might be confused but what I said was pretty clear. That multiplication doesn't always result in a larger number than addition. |
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You forget reciprocity. |
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That's not proper addition. Can you demonstrate minus 5 apples plus another minus 5 apples? Minus 5 apples is not addition. If you don't have any apples, you can't add minus 5 of them. You are completely making the rules of maths into something retarded by adding something into this that is irrelevant. Just like if you started saying there is 2 types of infinite. When there isn't. |
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Last edited by Deanstar; 08-31-2014 at 10:34 PM.
Technically no. I'm assuming we're talking about elementary alegbra, but even then this statement is shaky at best. |
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I borrow 5 apples from Bob, then borrow another 5 apples from Bob. How many apples does bob have? He has negative 10 apples compared to what he started with. How did I get that answer? I added negative 5 plus negative 5 to get negative 10. |
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I was the one that claimed infinity isn't a number that can be used. So I am getting pretty short on patience by now. I can't tell if you are being a troll or if you really think what I am saying is invalid? No-one with any sensible brain would ever imagine that infinity conforms to the rules of maths. There is not "many types of infinity" unless you start creating them in your own head. That's what mathematicians do when they start making more rules up. You never herd of this controversy before? It's highly comical because it's just so obvious what infinity is. It's not even complex. Even a 10 year old can understand that infinity means forever. There is no way to get around the fact that infinity is not a particular number. Since maths uses numbers infinity is not an answer or even a question. It's just a idea. I could use anything I could say sausage is now a part of maths and every time I say sauage "this happens" and there is different types of sausages. And these are the rules. And I basically would turn into a magical wizard where whatever I say becomes a type of maths. And that's exactly what atheists do they make it up as they go along. But what can you actually do in real life? Not much different to what I can do as a human. you can write about infinity till the cows come home. Won't demonstrate that it makes sense in maths. Unless you change the rules of maths to include the abstract and undefinable. Which is pretty ridiculious. |
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Last edited by Deanstar; 08-31-2014 at 10:56 PM.
I'm not a mathematician but people have made infinity work in math; it just doesn't work like normal everyday numbers do. You should listen to some of the many videos Vi Hart creates, she talks about a lot of this, about different types of math and things that are fairly interesting. You're right that infinity is weird and that it isn't a number, but I don't know exactly where you want to go with that. |
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If bob didn't have any apples. Then how would bob give you any apples? Basic logic failed again.....Negative numbers can't work unless they are in relation to something. |
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The idea of maths is to use it for real life. So let me know when you can use infinity for something practical. Perhaps a free energy generator? There is no invention that currently runs on an equation that has infinity in it. So far as I know no-one has made infinity work and if they did, the FBI or someone would probaly be kicking their door down cause a technology like that would trump all fossil fuels, and all limitations of current technology. |
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Last edited by Deanstar; 08-31-2014 at 11:18 PM.
That's a pretty wild claim. Anyway, without infinity, we wouldn't be able to move because of Zeno's paradox. |
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This is where you are an idiot, because infinity is used in calculus and stuff, which is then used in things like engineering to build pretty much all the modern technology we use today. You can say infinity doesn't work in math all you want but it is simply untrue. Like the video about infinity shows all sort of ways to manipulate infinity in mathematical ways. You can claim none of that stuff is real, yet people use that to build all sort of practical things in real life, all the time. |
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you lack a capability of basic communication. If infinity can be used then why does everything has definite limitations? No-one claims they can build things with infinity. Where is the computer with infinite cpu power. Doesn't exist cause you are the idiot and not me. |
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Last edited by Deanstar; 08-31-2014 at 11:32 PM.
Where is the computer with seven hundred octillion gigabytes of RAM? |
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Last edited by Maeni; 08-31-2014 at 11:44 PM.
ummm. I can use pineapples, unicorns and rainbows in mathematics if I wanted. I can say pineapples plus unicorns equals rainbow rule. But how would you apply it? In an algebra equation Y+Z= X pineapples plus unicorns equals rainbows. It's just an abstract concept. You can't make it work in real life. It's just something that is nonsense. What is the real joke is you can't admit that mathematicians dupe everyone into that without them even knowing that it don't apply to real life problems that you can use. That's the difference between real maths, and irrational maths. |
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Last edited by Deanstar; 08-31-2014 at 11:49 PM.
Advanced maths are not just theoretical and concept based, they are used to build bridges and put satellites into orbit and stuff. In that kind of math, infinity is used. |
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