Thread: Another Huge GOD Bash

well, maybe
but I think the devil is far more sneaky than that

the below is my own personal take of good Vs. evil

We are talking about two omnipetent beings of equal strength
one being unable to defeat the other
the falcrum of the battle is, and always has been, human belief

I say the motives of God & the Devil are impossible for us to distinguish

Originally posted by Ynot
well, maybe
but I think the devil is far more sneaky than that

the below is my own personal take of good Vs. evil

We are talking about two omnipetent beings of equal strength
one being unable to defeat the other
the falcrum of the battle is, and always has been, human belief

I say the motives of God & the Devil are impossible for us to distinguish

You sound like a really bright guy. I agree with what you said except I don't think the devil has any power.

then why is he still around?

is god waiting to see if he repents
cause god loves all?

cause that I could actually belief (strangely enough)

The end is not yet
You said it before. (I say the motives of God & the Devil are impossible for us to distinguish)

if the devil has no powers
and god is, unchallenged
why the lack of proof of god's existance?

what's God's plan (from a christian point of view) to keeping quiet, when he was so active during the old testiment

Originally posted by dreamtamer007
You sound like a really bright guy.

cheers mate

Originally posted by Ynot
if the devil has no powers
and god is, unchallenged
why the lack of proof of god's existance?

what's God's plan (from a christian point of view) to keeping quiet, when he was so active during the old testiment


cheers mate

Things did change after Jesus appeared. our point is to be like him cheers dude

Originally posted by dreamtamer007
Ynot was asking about serious topics. Kim you will have to answer for any of your followings. There not just followers but sensitive souls.

AMEN! Brother!

one final question (it's 4am here)

I don't beleive in God (sorry)
but I live a good (you could call it christian) life

am I going to heaven or hell?

what I'm saying is
is unconditional belief required
or can I make it, just by being a decent guy?

Originally posted by Ynot
well, maybe
but I think the devil is far more sneaky than that

the below is my own personal take of good Vs. evil

We are talking about two omnipetent beings of equal strength
one being unable to defeat the other
the falcrum of the battle is, and always has been, human belief

I say the motives of God & the Devil are impossible for us to distinguish

First let me say, Good Post,

Let be just state the fact ‘clearly as possible, ‘the devil is NOT omnipotent.

Only God is, one of the greatest lies the devil has told is that he is as powerful as God.

For the devil to be of equal strength ‘he would have to have the power of creation, and he does not, nor has he ever.

The devil is a tool, in God’s hand nothing more, he’s God’s little pit-bull.

The balance of power has always been within Man alone.

Though he can be influenced by the devil with his lies.

P.S. God has never been challenged!, He alone is God!

Wait a sec here:

So the devil is powerless. But he has the power to influence man who holds the balance of power in a battle between the one that has no power (other than the power to influence the one that holds the balance of power) and the one that is omnipotent.

Do you guys ever read what you post? Want a "timeout" here so you two can huddle-up and get your story straight?

[TWEET!] Two minute official timeout on the field to allow the biblethumpers to get their story straight. At the conclusion, it will be 4th down and 2005-and-inches.

Ok,
I'm fairly safe in the knowledge that I'm not going to toasted on a rack in hell
(unless getting hideously drunk and dancing like a moron is a mortal sin)

I don't beleive in God
but I beleive in the principles the bible tries to convey
religions major failing, in my opinion, is the often ludicrous interpretations of holy scripture that crop up from time to time

get rid of humanity and religion would work flawlessly

Originally posted by kimpossible
Wait a sec here:

So the devil is powerless. But he has the power to influence man who holds the balance of power in a battle between the one that has no power (other than the power to influence the one that holds the balance of power) and the one that is omnipotent.

Do you guys ever read what you post? Want a \"timeout\" here so you two can huddle-up and get your story straight?

[TWEET!] Two minute official timeout on the field to allow the biblethumpers to get their story straight. At the conclusion, it will be 4th down and 2005-and-inches.

it's a common belief (across many religions) that good *could* vanguish evil
but in doing so, would be eternally corrupted
it's up to man to vanguish his own, personal evils in order for good to be triumphant

>> get rid of humanity

Damn! Excellent idea! Want to brainstorm with me on that one?

Here is a perfect position to clarify the devil’s power (which is given to him by God.)

Job 1:6 And the day is, that sons of God come in to station themselves by Jehovah, and there doth come also the Adversary in their midst.
(And he’s not hiding behind them)
Job 1:7 And Jehovah saith unto the Adversary, `Whence comest thou?' And the Adversary answereth Jehovah and saith, `From going to and fro in the land,
(in us) and from walking up and down on it.'

Job 1:8 And Jehovah saith unto the Adversary, `Hast thou set thy heart against My servant Job because there is none like him in the land, a man perfect and upright, fearing God, and turning aside from evil?'
Job 1:9 And the Adversary answereth Jehovah and saith, `For nought is Job fearing God?

Job 1:10 Hast not Thou made a hedge for him, and for his house, and for all that he hath--round about?

Job 1:11 The work of his hands Thou hast blessed, and his substance hath spread in the land, and yet, put forth, I pray Thee,(Wow, the devil praying to God) Thy hand, and strike against anything that he hath--if not: to Thy face he doth bless Thee!'

Job 1:12 And Jehovah saith unto the Adversary, `Lo, all that he hath is in thy hand, only unto him put not forth thy hand.' And the Adversary goeth out from the presence of Jehovah.

the devil has to ask God to do anything!

The Rev.

And that common belief is based on simple observation. Nature abhors a vacuum. Not even the primitives would have bought into a concept where such is created. The balance must remain.

Further, if the "final battle" ever did happen, it would be impossible to fleece the money from the natives pockets anymore - or to use it as a hammer to keep 'em in line.

So, yes, there is some basis in reality for that balance of power.

>> a man perfect and upright

Waaait a sec here. Didn't you use that timeout I gave you for anything other than hitting the crackpipe?

I thought you guys claimed your diety was the only one "perfect" and "without sin".

And yet now we've got a bit-player showing up that is perfect and without sin, but still fearing your diety.

Originally posted by kimpossible
>> get rid of humanity

Damn! Excellent idea! Want to brainstorm with me on that one?

Whom shall we start with?

mmmmm? How about the evil in Man, then the problem with humanity would be solved!

Originally posted by kimpossible
>> a man perfect and upright

Waaait a sec here. Didn't you use that timeout I gave you for anything other than hitting the crackpipe?

I thought you guys claimed your diety was the only one \"perfect\" and \"without sin\".

And yet now we've got a bit-player showing up that is perfect and without sin, but still fearing your diety.

He is! he can't even look upon sin, that's way most of humanity is dead to his sight!

Perfect = Mature, Complete

What dictionary, what year(s)?

Its funny, one would that the art of eating chicken is known by all mankind?

This is the same skill that is required to receive the truth, and that is (stop picking at the truth, take what you can receive, and disregard the rest. If none of it is truth to you, then to you it is a spoiled piece of flesh, So Don’t try to eat it!

Cause you'll just spit it back in some one else's face.

So now I need to have "faith" in the definition of words that are clearly defined as having an entirely different meaning? Oh come on. That's just had to swallow.

I've said it many 'a time: I don't believe or disbelieve anything. But if you run your mouth off you open yourself to questioning. And if you make a fool of yourself, don't look to me to bail you out of it.

For the moment, I might be willing to let that slide until we see what "Strong" has up his sleeve for bias.

Originally posted by kimpossible
What dictionary, what year(s)?

Strong's Greek and Hebrew Dictionary 2005

I edited my post after scrolling over to see the source credited. I'll go research the lineage and qualification of "Strong". In the meantime, I'm willing to give you that one.