How strongly do you believe?

**Neruo** · 09-04-2007 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by jaasum

But those last two statements are faith based ideas. Look at monkeys, given the chance they beat, kill, and eat one another. Do you think they developed the concept of "brotherly love" from the natural world?

lol!

Religious people also beat and kill each other. Actually, don't religious people kill each other more than monkeys do? How often do you see monkey killing each other, in the zoo, or in the wild? And I doubt there are many cases of monkey-cannibalism, if any. Even monkeys still see their dead friends as their friends.

You argument is just completely retarded, and has nothing to do with anything. "faith based idea" is also complete bullshit. You don't know the difference between faith and science. And 100% absolutism excludes rational, scientific thinking.

Come back with some rational 'arguments' about how Christians are Not more stupid, for ignoring the fact that you can never exclude the possibility of god not existing/we being in the matrix.

**Keeper** · 09-04-2007 02:35 PM

I don't know how I did it, but I clicked the wrong (for me) option in the poll ...

There is one more "100% atheist" then there should be ...

**Matt5678** · 09-04-2007 04:13 PM

i wont deny that alot of Christians are 100% certain and wont question their beliefs.......but im not one of those Christians

**Neruo** · 09-04-2007 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Keeper

I don't know how I did it, but I clicked the wrong (for me) option in the poll ...

There is one more "100% atheist" then there should be ...

Ah, that explains quite a lot.

What is is Supposed to Do?

**Keeper** · 09-04-2007 04:44 PM

Technicly, my option isn't there, but I would go for Not Absolutly certain, Theist.

**Neruo** · 09-04-2007 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Keeper

Technicly, my option isn't there, but I would go for Not Absolutly certain, Theist.

If you believe in god, you either believe with absolute certainty, or you believe in another way. 'Another way' being everything that is not 100%, so it has to include your way.

Everyone either believes in god with 100% certainty, or believes in god with a certainty that is not 100%. It covers all people.

So don't be lame. 'I don't belong in any of those categories' is like saying 'the number 3 isn't even Or odd'.

**Keeper** · 09-04-2007 08:54 PM

I thought you would comment on that

It is hard to explain, so lets not go there ... I'll end up looking like an idiot if we do ( ... I know what you are going to say about that ... )

**Neruo** · 09-04-2007 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Keeper

I thought you would comment on that

It is hard to explain, so lets not go there ... I'll end up looking like an idiot if we do ( ... I know what you are going to say about that ... )

I am sorry keeper, you can't just say stuff like that and get away with it. You are wrong, by pure logic. You can't believe 10% or 20% at the same time, you can't believe 50% and 80% at the same time. You also can't believe 100% and something else at the same time.

All human beings have an opinion on god (not having one also is one).
It is either
-100%
-any other amount. None, not knowing. Anything but being 100% certain.

You basically are saying "I am am not certain about the 9/11-conspiracy, but I am also 100% certain of it."

Between "not absolute belief" and "absolute belief" lies "not absolute belief". And that's a fact, Keeper. Are you afraid of Not believing, or something?

**Xaqaria** · 09-04-2007 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Neruo

I am sorry keeper, you can't just say stuff like that and get away with it. You are wrong, by pure logic. You can't believe 10% or 20% at the same time, you can't believe 50% and 80% at the same time. You also can't believe 100% and something else at the same time.

All human beings have an opinion on god (not having one also is one).
It is either
-100%
-any other amount. None, not knowing. Anything but being 100% certain.

You basically are saying "I am am not certain about the 9/11-conspiracy, but I am also 100% certain of it."

Between "not absolute belief" and "absolute belief" lies "not absolute belief". And that's a fact, Keeper. Are you afraid of Not believing, or something?

What about being absolutely certain that something is there, but not being entirely certain about what it is?

27 · 09-04-2007 10:14 PM

100% belief in God. Don't ask me why. I don't like discussing it on here. The whole "casting pearls before swine" thing.

**Lord Toaster** · 09-04-2007 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

What about being absolutely certain that something is there, but not being entirely certain about what it is?

That would be 100% belief in god, although not a christian one. I would say that the word god can be used to mean any greater intelligence creator thing.

I went for Non-100% atheist - I can't prove that God doesn't exist can I? But definitely above 95% certain

**Xaqaria** · 09-04-2007 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Toaster

That would be 100% belief in god, although not a christian one.

No, not necessarily.

**nerve** · 09-13-2007 08:27 AM

I'm an Agnostic Theist. I believe in God 100%, but I can't say I know with 100% certainty that there is a God.

**Never** · 09-14-2007 01:23 PM

Can't be sure of anything; I am a philosopher, yet God does not stand up to reason at all. .00001% chance of such a being existing.

**Animegal** · 09-14-2007 01:43 PM

If he exists or not i personally couldnt care less, but good on those who do

**nerve** · 09-14-2007 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Never

Can't be sure of anything; I am a philosopher, yet God does not stand up to reason at all. .00001% chance of such a being existing.

I'll reason with you

**silverrose** · 09-17-2007 07:42 AM

I'm 100% certain that there is a God

**nerve** · 09-17-2007 01:56 PM

what kind of God, silverrose? what do you mean by "God"?

**silverrose** · 09-19-2007 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by paperdoll

what kind of God, silverrose? what do you mean by "God"?

you know, the "in the beginning, ____ created..."
that one.

**nerve** · 09-19-2007 07:18 AM

ok, what do you think this God is like, and how are you certain? I'm curious.

**Nefarious** · 10-05-2007 04:23 AM

Sorry I belive in god not in jesus.

**silverrose** · 10-05-2007 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Nefarious

Sorry I belive in god not in jesus.

no reason to apologize-
your belief is well-respected!

**Absolute** · 10-05-2007 06:48 AM

I respect the thought of how the more Einstein studied reality and the universe, the more he believed in a higher power. To me it has been the same instance. Over the passed 6 years, my continuous study of reality has made me recognize that reality is not an uncaused cause without something maintaining order.

**ClouD** · 10-05-2007 12:24 PM

so sure, that i would laugh at meager attempts on my life.

ignoratio elenchi,.. but what the hay, i like ham.

**george** · 10-14-2007 06:42 PM

Voted none of the above.

There are other views than just God/no God. I believe in the unity of the world, that there is something that connects everyone and everything. You may call this oneness God if you like, but I prefer not to. It is not a being, rather an existence, energy, knowledge.

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