Thread: Member of Ruling Bloodline answers questions

For some reason I can't join project avalon's forum. Like I can't get past the "terms and conditions" page.

This PDF wa not on Project Avalon, someone just posted it there first.

The first time I tried the server was closed because they were organizing it due to the sudden surge of membership. It's okay, my only problem with it is the lack of criticism for people's ideas. I like DV because there are plenty of people who tell you you're an idiot even if they're being an idiot in doing so it just makes people question themselves more. PA just needs a good dose of skepticism.

Interesting quotes:

Q:
what´s your thoughts on "peak oil"
A:
It is known within certain circles that it is manufactured.
The Earth is producing more oil/gas than is being used now even believe it or not, it is a natural
process "the more you take, the more it produces to balance itself".
Study the bees and the way they produce honey and you will understand.
On top of that there are many places with large amounts of natural resources which never have
been touched.
The agenda?
I think you know.

Q:
Sorry, OP. No one rules me...never has!
A:
A little old saying:
The perfect slave is the one that says "I am not a slave".
It is like an alcoholic saying he isn´t an alcoholic so therefor he will always be an alcoholic.
Get my drift?

What is your religious affiliation?
A:
Religion is created by "us".
The religions which rule now are the ones that are under total control.
I can´t give out to much about this but Christianity/Judaism/Islam/Buddhism are a bit off, let´s
say.
There is a core of truth, but it is drowning in a sea of perversions....for you to pick out, good
luck.
What we believe in does not matter but it is about serving the Divine Law which was passed
onto us.

Q:
Why do you choose to speak Now?
A:
Some of us have the task to do it within certain boundaries.
How do you suppose certain knowledge in past times was suddenly there?
Luck, chance, coincidence?

Q:
How about the world economy?
A:
One thing conspiracy theorists are right about is that it is based on money that doesn´t exist,
never existed, never will.
The ones who own the banks also own the media and politics, so it can be portrayed the way
they want you to believe it.

Q:
Do you frequent the Bohemian Grove and fully participate... in cremation of care.. sacrifice to
Molech ... screwing the male homosexual prostitutes... orgies ... etc..
A:
Those and other similar places are for the politicians and media people, they are obligated.
Sometimes a bloodline will be present but will not participate in those acts which are not the
rituals we do.

Q:
Op IF you are indeed who & what you say you are, then you will know that you and your ilk are in big
trouble...
Your time is short and those you belong to,
who are in our space quadrant as we speak, already know it! I imagine they are a tad busy right at
this moment.
But of course you must keep up appearances even when you know you fight a losing battle.
Personally I will be very happy to see the day... and it is coming, sooner than you think
A:
There is no end of time.
A long time ago, the people did ALMOST manage to take over, and then bad things happened
on earth to those people....what are you seeing now?
Are you really living on the planet you think you are?

Q:
Why does visualization work?
A:
It does not work for everybody, you have to reach a certain stage in your development.
This means living by strict rules, applying them to everything you do in life, in detail.
Most humans do not have the discipline nor temparence to achieve that stage.
Some here talk like they can, but I know even without knowing anything about their lives that
they are further away from it than they think.
"Visualisation" works because it is an essential way of the creational process in this material
universe.
The Universe is a living entity who uses it´s Mind to create and the beings created from that
may have that same power to within their boundaries.

Q:
Now the question is, who is using Icke?
and better question... Why?
A:
Icke has a core of truth he is trying to pass.
What he does not realise is that this actually works against him.
The reptilian part was fed him by the ones who work for the bloodlines.
In a period of 7, 8 months he was bombarded with "victims" who witnessed shapeshifting,
satanic rituals, etc. in such a way he could not refuse to not believe it.
Sometimes the "witnesses" were lead to him a few times a day, depending on his location.
Others like Icke (and there are more than you think) have been fed similar stories.
Really, I am not reptilian.
The answer why does not have to be answered.

Q:
Hello Insider!
Are you part of the Divine Brotherhood? Are you ME? Are you he who manipulates the Matrix?
Enquiring minds want to know, cuz I´m thoroughly confused. You say we despise you, but I could not
imagine despising any Being from the Devine Realms! Then you act like your part of the "elite
bloodline" on Earth, but what would bloodlines have to do with the Spiritual world? Again...I´m
confused. Could you clarify? Just what IS the Elite of whom you say we despise, and yet who
apparently has all the "inside scoop"??
sigh
Sammie
A:
You are confused for you have accepted the other versions of the "truth" and you think you have
a sight of the big picture, but what I say dismisses huge parts of it.
There is a misconception about bloodlines....obviously, the questions that are being asked here
prove that.
But there is a reason for that, and it serves an important purpose.
We manipulate this world only as far as we are allowed to by the Divine Law.
We provide you with tools and then it us up to you to determine how you use it.
Tools can be used in a maliscious way but noone is forcing you to use them that way....you are
choosing yourself.
So despising the ones who provide you with the tool that you voluntarily chose to "sin" with is
about you trying to camouflage your tracks.
You get what you deserve, that is how this universe works.
We do our duty, so do yours.

Q:
Is Earth a prison?
A:
Yes and even worse.
The ones who believe the contrary will never escape.

Q:
Now on the population reduction... We have a few brewing like AIDS... however, it has been my
feeling that the "release" of a bio, will be in a timely fashion cloaked in chaos from another event.
What say you on that?
A:
There is no plan to reduce the population, that is fully in the hands of the people.
However certain events have been seen as just that while they are serving another purpose....a
misconception.
Just because it comes across like population reduction does not mean it is exactly that.
Really, if the goal was population reduction, it would have been done a long time ago in a span
of a few weeks.
In fact the opposite is more true in most areas on this planet.
What you said could happen but it would be done by the ones who control the lower areas.
The ones up higher do it through the daily items you consume.

Q:
Dear Insider,
Thank you for answering my first two questions and your time.
I should have asked this question with the first two, but alas I do now. Why give me tools to escape a
prison? Sounds counter productive to what a prison is for.
I have known that the PTB are puppets moved around by hands that we cannot see, nor may ever see,
but why make them look and act (seemingly) stupid or at the least illogical? Are you wanting a
revolution?
What you are saying is that the war is within not
without though
TPTB seem to want us to think it
is without why
distract us? What is it that they don´t want us to accomplish? Freedom?
And yes, I am reminded everyday of my suffering.
Thanks
A:
We are neutral and doing our duty which many times comes across as being negative.
If you observe closely you will see we merely spreading the tools which can be used by you to
free yourself or chain yourself, your choice.
The Divine Law has a purpose for you and it is not on this planet.
Prove you are worthy again to be released.
The distraction is part of that.
It is about knowing who is and who is not.
The ones who support any of these known faces are failing.

Q:
What is your interpretation of the Divine Law and how can I make peace with myself?
A:
Knowing yourself and where you really are, are the 2 most important issues that you should be
involved with.
It is your task to find out.
In fact, if someone gave you the correct answers, it would not mean a thing to you for they would
not be attached to you in a way they would if you would have found them yourself.
If you find the answers to those, you have accomplished a huge part of your duty towards
yourself.
After that your task would be living according to the Divine Law which is revealed to you after
that stage untill departure.

Q:
Gnostic number 13,do you subcribe to the view,that our dualistic reality provides excellent
opportunities for souls to develop unconditional love,so they may transcend our dialectic
universe,rather than escaping from it?
Do you also believe in the law of balance and karma,allowing a soul to be king in one lifetime,a
beggar in the next? If so,it doesn´t really matter whether you´re a member of the elite,it may be a
unique experience on soul level,as unique as any role in society,as long as the soul progresses.
Is the historian Laurence Gardner a powerful member of the elite as Icke claims,or is he just an
average guy with access to hidden information? Thanks for your communication,Insider.(hope this
thread isn´t a practical joke by some juvenile person.Trust you´re for real)
A:
It is the task of every soul to accomplish that while in this human shape.
There is a part that can be called escaping which will be followed by transcending....if failing,
reincarnation.
However the word "love" is misunderstood....it is not meant to be the love in human terms which
humans are enslaved by.
That is the corrupt version of the real one.
The Divine Law controls what is called karma, but it is much broader and "harsher" than
people want to accept.
Example: someone who gets cancer and dies a slow painful death deserves it, that person is
being corrected, it is for his own good.
Sounds "harsh"?
That´s the way it works.
Just because it comes across as negative in this realm does not mean it is negative in the big
picture.
What you are talking about (reincarnating into the opposite of your former life), there is no
universal law which states that will definitely happen.
Reincarnation is a fact though, but if you achieve your task there is no reincarnation, no need to
experience all levels of life on Earth for they are mainly pointless to experience.
Gardner is one of those persons who wants to be praised and recognised by the people, so he
gets it in return for some favors (spreading misinfo which here and there contain the facts,
which hooks people).
He was initiated in certain levels but it is not as in depth as one would think (including himself),
he is clever though.
He is a member of at least 6 "societies" (although 3 of them are closely linked and could be seen
as 1, so 4 at least) but these have only as much power/control as you the people give them.
People like Icke are giving them more power unknowingly.
I am real.

Q:
Is this because Christians teach that individuals should be under the control of a God who is holy? Or
should I say, one who judges right and wrong?
A:
Christianity is about idolising a human called Jesus of Nazareth first, which is an abomination.
Christians teach what they have been told to teach by the ones they oppose.
I can tell you who the 4 individuals were who wrote the Hebrew old testament and the exact
date, if it suited me.
Same about your new testament which was gathered by 6 people from 2 different areas.

Q:
And why do you misspell simple words such as ´malicious´? I find that very interesting.
A:
English is not my native language, not even my second nor third, maybe fourth and I type fast
without checking so I can answer as many questions as possible in a limited amount of time.
On top of this I just realized I have to type even faster because the proxies I use disappear.

If I giggle will you be angry?


When you think about conspiracies you have to remember what are the people at the top gaining? What are these alien overlords gaining from their strategies to oppress us?

Originally Posted by Sandform

When you think about conspiracies you have to remember what are the people at the top gaining? What are these alien overlords gaining from their strategies to oppress us?

Did you read through the link?
Apparently they are rewarded with a farm and a crappy internet connection.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

Did you read through the link?
Apparently they are rewarded with a farm and a crappy internet connection.

That link has Mark75 written all over it =P.

I don't think either of you read that entire document. Since I am a student of psychology, I have experience in sifting out liars. Most of the tell tale signs come from body language, facial expressions etc. seeing as over 80% of communication is non-verbal. Since "seeing" this guys facial expressions and body language is impossible by merely reading 3 year old text, I chose to read the entire thing to find hints of lies, contradictions, rephrases, and other things we look for. He didn't contradict himself one single time. It's evident he clearly has a deep understanding of philosophy and ritualistic practices. I wouldn't go so far as to say everything he said was true but all I can say is this. If he is a liar...he's a very very well trained one.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

I don't think either of you read that entire document. Since I am a student of psychology, I have experience in sifting out liars.

Another trait is to avoid answering with real answers...which I'm afraid he does quite often.

Why do you manipulate this world? (asked twice by the same person highlighting manipulate first then you)

"It is our duty."

He also gives answers that are extremely vague...though they seem specific because he lulls you into thinking he knows what you are talking about and says something indistinct, however worded carefully to make you think he is speaking of something very distinct about what you think he is saying.

Also read about how he speaks of inbreeding not causing bad effects, if the blood is "superior", and then responds later on with "I tried to make this clear earlier.....the blood/genes/etc are not as important as they seem." Though I suppose it isn't a technical difference. He said you're born into a family based on your soul...and then repsonds that a gifted soul can be born regardless of the family...

Originally Posted by Jeff777

I don't think either of you read that entire document. Since I am a student of psychology, I have experience in sifting out liars. Most of the tell tale signs come from body language, facial expressions etc. seeing as over 80% of communication is non-verbal. Since "seeing" this guys facial expressions and body language is impossible by merely reading 3 year old text, I chose to read the entire thing to find hints of lies, contradictions, rephrases, and other things we look for. He didn't contradict himself one single time. It's evident he clearly has a deep understanding of philosophy and ritualistic practices. I wouldn't go so far as to say everything he said was true but all I can say is this. If he is a liar...he's a very very well trained one.

He didn't contradict himself because he didn't really say anything. All he did was make a bunch of vague and unverifiable/unfalsifiable statements that had no real meaning. He claimed everything that is taught is wrong or mixes truth with lies and so there is no way to refute anything he said.

There was no deep understanding of philosophy and no deeper understanding of ritualistic practices than the people asking him about them. He in fact denied philosophy as false knowledge, even going as far to put it in quotations when referring to it.

Tell me, what year are you and what psychology classes have you taken that would make you an authority on lying? I ask because he followed the first rule of lying successfully to the letter; don't say anything specific that can be verified, and when you do use specifics make sure to first undermine the integrity of anyone who might contradict you.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

He didn't contradict himself because he didn't really say anything. All he did was make a bunch of vague and unverifiable/unfalsifiable statements that had no real meaning. He claimed everything that is taught is wrong or mixes truth with lies and so there is no way to refute anything he said.

There was no deep understanding of philosophy and no deeper understanding of ritualistic practices than the people asking him about them. He in fact denied philosophy as false knowledge, even going as far to put it in quotations when referring to it.

Tell me, what year are you and what psychology classes have you taken that would make you an authority on lying? I ask because he followed the first rule of lying successfully to the letter; don't say anything specific that can be verified, and when you do use specifics make sure to first undermine the integrity of anyone who might contradict you.

His reasons for being vague are well understood. Of course he's not going to give out specifics. However, I must note...don't mistake this post and my above one as me giving credibility to everything he says. I do not go to a school to study psychology, though I have a plethora of books on the subject. Mainly on NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming), a branch of psychology. And as far as his references to rituals. The bits he did disclose correlate to the things I've read in esoteric/"magick" books. So he's not a complete idiot. As I said before...I'm not endorsing what he says as true...but if he is lying...he's very good at it and it has bypassed the things I have learned in my studies.

He's not as vague as he appears to be.

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

He's not as vague as he appears to be.

Do you understand what vague means? It means that it might be alluding to something specificly, but is not well formed enough to state what that is.

If I tell my friend that I'm going to PoK in EQ in about an hour to sell C6 but might decide to stay in the lobby instead, it is very distinct to my friend what I just said...but to the common person it is vague. Thus, it is indeed vague to the audience he is trying to address.

Edit: However in this case he is not speaking vaguely about something specific, he is speaking vaguely for the sake of being vague.

Okay but he's just answering questions in a way to provoke better questions. He is not vague to the better questions, just concise. Besides, he says if he tells you the answer it won't mean anything, he can only give you the tools to find the answers.

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

Okay but he's just answering questions in a way to provoke better questions. He is not vague to the better questions, just concise. Besides, he says if he tells you the answer it won't mean anything, he can only give you the tools to find the answers.

Show me an example of a useful and concise answer that he gave. Its great to know that he doesn't answer because it won't mean anything if you assume he's telling the truth, but if you look at it rationally and without bias you begin to realize that anyone could say that and it would have the same effect.

Many mis-understand duty, duality, etc. and also understand it too well.

There is no prison, there is nowhere else.

What one does not realise, is that beyond all this, beyond beyond and the mechanics of the universe, it's ways and laws, the manifestation and not, there is without the aforementioned.

What was said is truth, but wilful deception is my dismissal of more than just the majority.

Don't bite onto the shit, and what you find you can't bite is truth. Truth is existential.

Even these words hold as much truth as those, because what else.

It is easy to get caught in the fascination. How does the clock tick, the greater than thou attitude, but yes the tools are there, not that tools are needed for anything but tool work.

Who on earth is talking? There's no question nor answer, as they disappear into each other, and exist as one another.

This is duty. There is nothing else.
Playing, splashing, crying, running, blah blah.

Now that it's the end, hesitation to post, not asking what nor why, not asking anything. Hesitation duty unto itself.

A rose is a rose, until not a rose, but always a rose. I accept because I accept.

Reading between the lines is still reading, perceive what you will and call it heaven or hell. Read with each line until it burns out till nothing - where the finger points. If you will, realise nothing points back to this.

Pointing unto itself, the circle without motion. The words keep going, the silence still isn't. Both and both, all inclusive and non-inclusive, I and without I.

Originally Posted by ClouD

Many mis-understand duty, duality, etc. and also understand it too well.

There is no prison, there is nowhere else.

What one does not realise, is that beyond all this, beyond beyond and the mechanics of the universe, it's ways and laws, the manifestation and not, there is without the aforementioned.

What was said is truth, but wilful deception is my dismissal of more than just the majority.

Don't bite onto the shit, and what you find you can't bite is truth. Truth is existential.

Even these words hold as much truth as those, because what else.

It is easy to get caught in the fascination. How does the clock tick, the greater than thou attitude, but yes the tools are there, not that tools are needed for anything but tool work.

Who on earth is talking? There's no question nor answer, as they disappear into each other, and exist as one another.

This is duty. There is nothing else.
Playing, splashing, crying, running, blah blah.

Now that it's the end, hesitation to post, not asking what nor why, not asking anything. Hesitation duty unto itself.

A rose is a rose, until not a rose, but always a rose. I accept because I accept.

Reading between the lines is still reading, perceive what you will and call it heaven or hell. Read with each line until it burns out till nothing - where the finger points. If you will, realise nothing points back to this.

Pointing unto itself, the circle without motion. The words keep going, the silence still isn't. Both and both, all inclusive and non-inclusive, I and without I.

I remembered the days when you at least tried to make sense, cloud. What happened to those days? I hope you realize when you are pondering deep questions about life that almost every 17 year old on the face of the Earth believes they have all the answers, and before you say it, believing that you are one of the only people that really understands that their are no answers is pretty much the same thing.

I read no further than the 'Earth creates oil faster than we can use it up'. That is total, unequivocal bullshit and helps me delegate the content of the rest of the post where it belongs - the trash.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I remembered the days when you at least tried to make sense, cloud. What happened to those days? I hope you realize when you are pondering deep questions about life that almost every 17 year old on the face of the Earth believes they have all the answers, and before you say it, believing that you are one of the only people that really understands that their are no answers is pretty much the same thing.

What I said makes some sense to me, as I read it now. I don't remember when it didn't, maybe because I don't remember much. When I don't understand it, I won't understand it.

I don't know what other 17 year olds ponder upon, either.
I don't believe I am one of the only people that really understands there are no answers, nor that I understand whatever that may be, bring or take.

I do as I do, and you do as you do.
That I make rhetorical statements as I do, and say what I say, are just as they are if they are.
If I will ponder, I will ponder.

What else to say? Would you like me to not to have done what I did? You're entitled, and there's no need to tell you that.

I'm no greater than you, humbled.

What is being expressed, I don't know.
I don't know, nor know if I seek to know or not.
I do not know.

Originally Posted by Alextanium

I read no further than the 'Earth creates oil faster than we can use it up'. That is total, unequivocal bullshit and helps me delegate the content of the rest of the post where it belongs - the trash.

That being the first question/answer created the same impression for me. What does that mean, "It balances itself out". Fossil fuels? What kind of supernatural process would make fossil fuels in the earths crust. We're pretty sure the whole thing is organic in origin and thousands of years old, right? So how could it create itself. And what balances itself out? The amount of exhaust fumes and the oil in the earth?

Originally Posted by Bonsay

That being the first question/answer created the same impression for me. What does that mean, "It balances itself out". Fossil fuels? What kind of supernatural process would make fossil fuels in the earths crust. We're pretty sure the whole thing is organic in origin and thousands of years old, right? So how could it create itself. And what balances itself out? The amount of exhaust fumes and the oil in the earth?

Nearly all the fossil fuels on earth were created in two time periods in history, hundreds of millions of years ago. I believe the first time was before the Snowball Event when a massive % of the oceans surface was covered in a thick layer of algae, and the second time was either right after the mass extinction that gave rise to the dinosaur era, or the end of the dinosaurs themselves.

Fossil fuels are essentially 'solid sunlight'. The energy of the sun radiating down on our planet for 3 billion years (that life has existed), photosynthesized by organic life which then died and floated down to the sea floor where it was laid down in sediment to begin the hundred-million year process of oil and natural gas generation. You just CAN'T replicate that 'faster than you can use it'. It's total bullshit!

Personally this seems as one of two possible things (3 if I'm bold).
1. Somebody is having a laugh.
2. Somebody, for some reason, wants to create a new religion (like scientology) basing it on the New-age community by telling the people what they want to hear...
3. It's all true. But wow. How pathetic. If this really is the truth... damn, of all the amazing things science has taught us, of all the possibilities from megaverses to string theory, it has all come down to "lizzard gods" with illogical and pathetic human-like ideals. This sounds too sad to be true. If it was, I would probably define it as a rather unfortunate macroscopic materialisation of quantum properties, pushing me into this alternate reality.

He disclaims the lizard theory. According to his set up of the universe:

Any form of real truth is convoluted and requires a lot of discernment

David Icke was fed witnesses, sometimes many a day, to discredit him by shitting in the punch bowl with lizard men

The real ruling bloodline serves the Divine Order, not aliens. They maintain the planet as place for us to fall asleep, forget who we really are or what our purpose is, and then later to dislodge our programming and escape it.

It says nothing bizarre, nothing that you could start a new religion with. He says don't trust gurus, liberation is between you and the divine. I know everyone says that in order to earn trust. Still, he wasn't trying to earn trust, he was either having a joke or it's the real deal. Obviously the thing about oil makes it clear it's a joke. But I don't look at one problem with something and throw it out the window. Perhaps if you read more of it some things would agree with you a bit more, as well.

I mean frankly the little interview destroys most conspiracy theories, except the one about how our money doesn't exist, which is not a conspiracy theory but a fact. He's not perpetuating people's hysteria about the NWO and etc, he's dissolving it.

frankly i agree with a lot of what he has to say.

I do not go to a school to study psychology, though I have a plethora of books on the subject. Mainly on NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming), a branch of psychology.

Seriously, everybody who has read one book on psychology thinks they are some expert on it. You're not a student of psychology if you don't study it in university. NLP is not a branch of psychology, as it has no empirical evidence supporting it.

Originally Posted by wendylove

NLP is not a branch of psychology, as it has no empirical evidence supporting it.

Negative.