Thread: Question for athiests...

Originally Posted by Hercuflea

i mean, if you dont teach sex ed at all then the kids will not even have sex on their minds, and the little 6th and 7th graders wont even know the anatmy of it

I went to school in an abstinence-only sex ed area. You are dead wrong that no one thought about sex, everyone thought about it constantly and constantly hated themselves and felt ashamed for thinking "dirty thoughts". Thankfully, I broke out of that ridiculous brainwashing...

You are right that the little 6th and 7th graders don't know the anatomy. Neither did the 8th graders. It wasn't until biology as a high school freshmen that any of us learned about the anatomy unless you had intelligent parents. I remember my biology teacher delivering this rant/speech about how moronic it is to not make the information available as early as 7th grade.

I'm pretty sure Herculea was being satirical.

I learned pretty much everything in third grade just from talking to friends. I don't know how 7th graders wouldn't know about anatomy or sex. How is that even possible?

What's the age of 7th graders?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I'm pretty sure Herculea was being satirical.

I learned pretty much everything in third grade just from talking to friends. I don't know how 7th graders wouldn't know about anatomy or sex. How is that even possible?

In an area that I estimate to be about 80% LDS, it's very possible.

Originally Posted by Bonsay

What's the age of 7th graders?

12-13

Originally Posted by Licity

In an area that I estimate to be about 80% LDS, it's very possible.

What does LDS stand for? I looked it up and found Latter Day Saints, Laser Directed Systems, and Liberal Democracy of Slovenia.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

THAT is the trippiest piece of information I have come across in a while. I wonder what Rush Limbaugh would say to that one.

It's 100% true, Jesus said "Allah". Rush Limbaugh would probably say the same thing that he would say if you told him that Jesus was middle eastern and not white (also true.)

I think everyone should take a history of religion course if they ever get a chance, I did and it was fascinating. The bible is probably one of the most historically important works of all time. It should certainly be taught as part of history, but not as an account of history.

Assuming Jesus existed, though we have no proof.

I see no rational reason why not to tell kids how to have sex? At least we do it here, in schools too.

Originally Posted by Unelias

I see no rational reason why not to tell kids how to have sex? At least we do it here, in schools too.

Yeah, here too. I think it's just religious influence.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

12-13



What does LDS stand for? I looked it up and found Latter Day Saints, Laser Directed Systems, and Liberal Democracy of Slovenia.

Sorry, used to the local slang. LDS is Latter Day Saints.

Originally Posted by Unelias

I see no rational reason why not to tell kids how to have sex? At least we do it here, in schools too.

Same thing here in Portugal. I never saw any parent complaining about it.

Well if i ever have kids all i can say is i dont want them out sleeping around and whoring themselves off to their friends

logical or not, my kids wont be having sex at age 13, when they're not even nearly biologically, or mentally, mature enough to handle it

Very true, Ninja, thank you for that.
I use the English rendering of God's unpronouncable name "YHWH"
But, if you look to other parts of the Bible, Jah (or Yah) is a poetic adaptation of "Jehovah" or "Yahweh".
More interesting to me is that when people say "Hallelujah", they're saying: "Praise Yah [God] you people." And "Yah" was used in a lot of names of Israelites and places of Biblical importance.

Where YHWH was found in original manuscripts was where God's NAME (not Title) was found. In later years, his name was removed some 7,000 times and replaced with LORD and simply God.

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As for sex not being thought of by youngsters... lol... one can dream of such things, but it's not true.
I myself was thinking of sex before the age of 7
I knew the anatomy of males because I had a baby brother and because my bestfriend thought it was the coolest thing that he could pee purple (because of a medicine) and he showed me
I didn't actually have sex though until I was 17 but that;s because my mom scared the crap out of me about it. Because I have Ehlers Danlos, my doctors and parents feared I would die if I even became pregnant.

My hubby was having sexual fantasies at the age of 6.

i know thats normal to have fantasies and stuff, i did too...but i mean kids, if it werent for sex ed, wouldn't even know HOW to have sex until they were at least 12 or 13, and even then they wouldnt just jump right iinto it

I had a friend who was pregnant at 12. Sex Ed hadn't yet been taught at our school.
I knew another girl who was having sex at the age of 9.

I *would have* had sex when I was 7 (with a cute 12 year old boy) but his mother walked in on us making out in his closet :blush:

I did however have a lesbian relationship when I was about 9 and again when I was about 12.

wow people are fucked up

yep lol

Sex Ed is especially for kids whose parents neglect to lay a general foundation for their kids to build upon.
This was a long time ago, but my step mom (currently in her 50's) started her period at school. She walked over to a teacher and asked her to please tell her mom that she loved her and was sorry about dying. The teacher asked what she was talking about and then had to explain she wasn't dying.
Some parents don't talk about sex PERIOD, so all those kids have to go on are locker room stories and their imaginations.

Originally Posted by Hercuflea

i know thats normal to have fantasies and stuff, i did too...but i mean kids, if it werent for sex ed, wouldn't even know HOW to have sex until they were at least 12 or 13, and even then they wouldnt just jump right iinto it

It doesn't work that way. If kids feel sexual urges, they will inevitably follow them until they discover the mechanics themselves.

I've known about sex since 2nd or 3rd grade.

well i must have been pretty sheltered

i seriously didnt even know the anatomy of sex until like 7th grade

Originally Posted by Hercuflea

logical or not, my kids wont be having sex at age 13, when they're not even nearly biologically, or mentally, mature enough to handle it

There's a difference between knowing about sex and having sex. I quite agree that at age 13 you are too young to be sexually active, but that doesn't mean you're too young to know what sex is and how babies are born -.-

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Originally Posted by Hercuflea

i know thats normal to have fantasies and stuff, i did too...but i mean kids, if it werent for sex ed, wouldn't even know HOW to have sex until they were at least 12 or 13, and even then they wouldnt just jump right iinto it

They would know. It's instinctual knowledge.

Originally Posted by Hercuflea

well i must have been pretty sheltered

i seriously didnt even know the anatomy of sex until like 7th grade

And you'd wish for your children to experience the same?

Originally Posted by O'nus

Who was Jesus' father?

Supporting that Joseph is:

Acts 2:30
Therefore being a prophet [David], and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne.

Acts 13:23
Of this man's seed [David's] hath God, according to his promise, raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus.

Romans 1:3
Concerning his son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh.

2 Timothy 2:8
Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David. ....

Hebrews 2:16
For verily he [Jesus] took not on him the nature of angels, but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David.

Supporting that he is not:

Matthew 1:18
When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 22:45
Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?

Mark 12:35-37
And Jesus answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that Christ is the son of David? For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool. David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son?

Luke 1:31-35
And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring for a son, and shalt call his name Jesus .... Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be seeing I know not a man. And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee.

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This is more of a standard case of linage. What you are assuming regarding if there is a contradiction is highly inaccurate. Take special notice of the main assumption in your argument. Children that carries their parents genes are the only ones considered to be legal decedents. This assumption can display a wide array of inaccuracies.

Legal kinship standings can be related to either genes or marriage, we see this in everyday life. Rather or not the physical gene came from Joseph is irrelevant in this case.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

That is classic.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

That is classic.

Instead of explaining why you are against this, we get an amazing finish with your common posting of funny pictures. I noticed a pattern with you and you do that when you have nothing intelligent to add or when your stuck and simply cannot refute the material.