Thread: Menthol as a Dream Enhancer

Originally Posted by RobStar

Thanks. I will look into this. I found this experiment has helped me. For example my lucid dreams when I have them are more dynamic and have been longer in length, now to the point where I can test or try things in the dream itself. There is more of a storyline also. I just need to try and get the right balance.
Yes I will have a break later this week and see what happens. Presumably you would still like this recording on the template/dj, thingymebob, etc?

I'm so glad that it's helped you so much! If you want to record your non-menthol dreams with the same template, that would be cool. You don't have to go out of your way if you don't think there's much worth saying other than what you can easily just get out in a sentence-or-two post, though.

Originally Posted by Carrot

Took me some time to find the template. 12th July 2012.

Dose: 2 Nin Jiom Herbal Candy Tangerine-Lemon
Side Effects: Nope, except that I was a little excited about it so I took a little longer to get to sleep although I was really tired.
Sleep Duration: 8 hours
WBTB: No
Lucid: No
Vividness: Yes but I think my dreams have been decently vivid all the while
Stability: Okay
Dream Comments: I can't recall my dreams. My recall's not doing too good nowadays and sleeping at screwed up timing (from 9am to 5pm) doesn't help. I can only recall my first dream was vivid, the rest were all a mess because I got woken up too many times.

Do you try writing down notes at all whenever you wake up? I wake up a lot during the night (or day, in your case lol) and I use that as an opportunity to increase my recall by writing down everything I can remember each time.

Originally Posted by littlezoe

Argh... i'm failing more and more now. For some reason my alarm didn't go off today and i couldn't wake up for WBTB

I want to start using that template already... aww

Haha, I'm sure you'll come out of this slump soon. It wasn't your fault, anyway.

Originally Posted by Linkzelda

Dose: 29.4 mg of Halls Cherry Cough Drops (3 tablets 9.8 mg each)
Side Effects: None
Sleep Duration: Around 3-4 hours
WBTB: No
Lucid: No
Vividness: I can't really tell
Stability: Nope
Dream Comments: Nothing sexually related, just telling my father off in the dream. I think I took 3, but I spread out how I ate the tablets, so maybe that's why it didn't have much of an effect. I don't know why I took it so early without trying to fall asleep as soon as the last tablet was done.

So you ate them a while before going to bed? Yeah, that's not good.... You really lower the chances of getting anything out of it that way. Don't do that.

Originally Posted by RobStar

A bit of a crazy night in more ways than one!


Thur July 12th 2012

Dose: 63.2 mg Cough drops *(Staged)
Side Effects: Insomnia, Stomach upset (Gastric), Diarrhea
Sleep Duration: 5 hrs after/3.5 hrs after (8.5 hrs approx)
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: YES (Two)
Vividness: Very High
Stability: Very High
Dream Comments:
Lucid No.1 had a sinister twist to it. Very vivid, and high quality. Lucid No.2 basically is one of the best lucid dreams I’ve experienced for a very long while. Really dynamic, with a storyline and interaction. Long duration with really strong visual output. Very pure, colourful and fun, with no distortion or loss of control. Rock solid stability throughout. Excellent recall and initial awareness with both examples. No need to RC! Both Memorable.
Odd thoughts, reverie and dream snippets during the night also. Flashback on association noted hours after waking. (Origin: Unknown?)
*(Stages: 1st Dose on retiring for bed. 2nd Dose taken during a toilet break. 3rd and final dose at WBTB.)

Getting Fired. Demonic ex boss. The House of Students - Strippoker? - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Sounds like a success to me! I love those insanely vivid lucids, they really can be mind-blowing.... I can't wait to see what other shenanigans you get into.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Do you try writing down notes at all whenever you wake up? I wake up a lot during the night (or day, in your case lol) and I use that as an opportunity to increase my recall by writing down everything I can remember each time.

Nope. I usually don't wake up during my sleep unless I get awoken by obvious sounds. But my recall was much better before, must be the screwed up sleeping timing and lack of dream recall practices. If you had tried sleeping in the day instead of night, you might get what I am saying.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Oh, forgot to give an update.... I've now had two nights in a row where I didn't take menthol, and my dreams, especially lucids, have definitely lost their minty flavor. I had one DILD and one MILD. The DILD, yesterday, had a slight (very slight) sexual edge to it, but none of the menthol libido feeling... basically, nothing out of the ordinary. The MILD, today, while memorable just because of what I ended up achieving, was pretty plain as far as the style of my lucids goes. I definitely need to dose again tonight so I can get that nifty little mood boost back.

All things considered though I do think it's a good thing to take a break as it can be demanding.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

I'm so glad that it's helped you so much! If you want to record your non-menthol dreams with the same template, that would be cool. You don't have to go out of your way if you don't think there's much worth saying other than what you can easily just get out in a sentence-or-two post, though.

Yep. No problem.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Sounds like a success to me! I love those insanely vivid lucids, they really can be mind-blowing.... I can't wait to see what other shenanigans you get into.

Yes, thanks. They were really great. It has got to be one of the most 'real' lucids probably I have experienced, probably in my whole life. At one point in the room everything was so calm and still. The lucid seem to last a good while.
It was a pity about the end with the physiological event happening, regarding my stomach, which was out of my control. If that had not happened then I'm sure it would have been even more fun, bare flesh and all perhaps!
However I'm not complaining as I know there is always a next time.
I ended up with typist's/writer's cramp after the wall of text today.
Regards.

Originally Posted by RobStar

All things considered though I do think it's a good thing to take a break as it can be demanding.

Definitely. I try not to take anything every single day anymore, out of habit. And like has been discussed, I do like my regular dreams as well.

Originally Posted by RobStar

Yes, thanks. They were really great. It has got to be one of the most 'real' lucids probably I have experienced, probably in my whole life. At one point in the room everything was so calm and still. The lucid seem to last a good while.
It was a pity about the end with the physiological event happening, regarding my stomach, which was out of my control. If that had not happened then I'm sure it would have been even more fun, bare flesh and all perhaps!
However I'm not complaining as I know there is always a next time.
I ended up with typist's/writer's cramp after the wall of text today.
Regards.

Those lucids are so great. I almost always just end up observing my surroundings in those situations, it's unbelievable how vivid they can get....
Yeah, that is a shame. Do you think there's a chance that that will keep happening if you keep using menthol? You do seem to get that side effect a lot. Though, I guess you have just been using the cough drops. Do you think you'll try a different way any time soon just to see if there's a physiological difference?

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Those lucids are so great. I almost always just end up observing my surroundings in those situations, it's unbelievable how vivid they can get....
Yeah, that is a shame. Do you think there's a chance that that will keep happening if you keep using menthol? You do seem to get that side effect a lot. Though, I guess you have just been using the cough drops. Do you think you'll try a different way any time soon just to see if there's a physiological difference?

I know - that's why it's really frustrating when you do wake up sometimes.

It is something I still want to try as it is working for me. I did say beforehand that I did get good results with WBTB, but not this good.
With the stomach/sleep thing then I must be sensitive to one of the ingredients so I will try the tea perhaps and see how I get on.
Also it is possible that this is like some sort of feedback loop, not only just involving the Menthol but going on DV as well, which seem to be driving the mind as well if you see what I mean. For example if you get a lucid in the week, record it, research it then you know (in your own head)you are going to get another one at some point, simply because you have done it before.

Originally Posted by RobStar

I know - that's why it's really frustrating when you do wake up sometimes.

It is something I still want to try as it is working for me. I did say beforehand that I did get good results with WBTB, but not this good.
With the stomach/sleep thing then I must be sensitive to one of the ingredients so I will try the tea perhaps and see how I get on.
Also it is possible that this is like some sort of feedback loop, not only just involving the Menthol but going on DV as well, which seem to be driving the mind as well if you see what I mean. For example if you get a lucid in the week, record it, research it then you know (in your own head)you are going to get another one at some point, simply because you have done it before.

For sure, for sure. I'm definitely lucid a lot more when I get really involved on DV, thinking about it goes a long way. There's certainly nothing wrong with taking advantage of that, though. I'm fine with a self-sustaining dream enhancer.