Thread: Menthol as a Dream Enhancer

Thurs Feb 21st 2013

Dose: 5-HTP 50 mg (Bed) 29.1mg Cough drops (WBTB)
Side Effects: Gripey stomach
Sleep Duration: 6 hrs before/3 hrs after
WBTB: Yes (31 min)
Lucid: YES
Vividness: Average/Good
Stability: Average
Dream Comments: WBTB Incubation. Bizarre lucid transition type dream (DILD) coupled with a sexual theme and post hypnagogic imagery.
The transition was fairly memorable, although in hindsight I’m glad that it was written down at the time.

5-HTP and Menthol – (DILD) - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views


"What, you took... supplements! - On a 'school' day!!!"

Originally Posted by Highlander

Thurs Feb 21st 2013

Dose: 5-HTP 50 mg (Bed) 29.1mg Cough drops (WBTB)
Side Effects: Gripey stomach
Sleep Duration: 6 hrs before/3 hrs after
WBTB: Yes (31 min)
Lucid: YES
Vividness: Average/Good
Stability: Average
Dream Comments: WBTB Incubation. Bizarre lucid transition type dream (DILD) coupled with a sexual theme and post hypnagogic imagery.
The transition was fairly memorable, although in hindsight I’m glad that it was written down at the time.

5-HTP and Menthol – (DILD) - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views


"What, you took... supplements! - On a 'school' day!!!"

On a school day!? You madman!

Another success! It sounds like it was getting interesting in the end there. X) That's intense!

Originally Posted by Alucinor XIII

"The half�-life of menthol glucuronide after oral menthol dosing is about 50 minutes in plasma and 74 minutes in urine, although there appears to be a longer terminal half�-life, most likely due to the slow release of the highly lipid�]soluble menthol from body tissues and/or due to enterohepatic recirculation (Gelal 1999)."

-http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AdvisoryCommittees/CommitteesMeetingMaterials/TobaccoProductsScientificAdvisoryCommittee/UCM244975.pdf

I read that the half life was 50 minutes in a few other places, too. So, I'm not sure what effect the menthol itself can really be having, because people seem to be reporting effects on their dreams when they've taken menthol before bed...which means that the menthol would be lasting around 6 times longer than its supposed.

I don't know what the metabolites of the menthol are, though. If menthol really is having an effect on dreams, it his to be indirectly via metabolites, or activating some other process in the body.

As I think I might have mentioned before, I'm willing to believe that it's some sort of post-effect reaction for when it's taken before bed. Smoking salvia before bed can have profound effects on dreams as well, and its active chemical, salvinorin A, works through the kappa-opioid receptor too and has an even shorter half-life than menthol.