Thread: The SSILD test. - 30 days.

Deffinatly will be trying. I will post my results tommorow hopefully.

3 LDs.
Ummm... I dont know what just happened. I had about 10 hours of dreams/FAs/lucid dreams. I figured at the end that I would wake up and it would be morning. It has been less than 3 hours. This gives me supposedly less than 15 minutes of REM.

I am gonna write down all of it real fast so I don't forget (it was a crazy dream).

Spoiler for dreams :

So I am living in a huge house with loads of other people (sadly. I would love this. I love friends and stuff like that). I keep travelling between the two, and then I decide to go to bed. I fall asleep, wake up IRL. Go back to sleep. Wake up there (I incubate my dreams. I spend most of my nights in the same place all night) when I wake up there I realize I am dreaming.
I go outside. Go to the "girls building." (In my mind I am younger, and most things are segregated by gender, it is a weird place). When I get there all the gals are either sleeping or gone. I go upstairs and my x is up there (from about 6 years ago, first GF and only gal I dated besides my wife) I talked to her about some things for about 10 minutes. It took me about a minute as well to make sure she was her (dreams change a lot). I wake up. Go back to sleep.
Back in the room. This time not lsee lucid. I go down to a huge party. I am naked. I grab a pair of underwear and need to get back to my room. Tons of people. Most ignore me through. I make it upstairs (like 17 awkwardly sized stairs). I wake up. Back to sleep.
I am driving down the highway going away from a city (weirdly enough the city my x lived in, and yes I post too many parentheses ) I realize I was just not driving. Probably a dream! I look in the mirror and everything looks normal. Then I see another mirror in the back seat. It takes me a while to readjust, but I pull over and can now see the back of my head in the rear view mirror and the other mirror. this has to be a dream. I start driving like a maniac (2 minutes) and start going into the sky. everything grades out. I wake up, and back to sleep.
I wake up. Realize I am dreaming and start talking to DCs. Nothing else I can remember of this. Probably more later. wake up. Man the kids downstairs are loud. I look out across the huge houses and think about the dream I just had about going over to the other side and talking to my x. She would freak out if she knew that. I could see her hanging with people from there. I start writing in my DJ. Then I actually wake up.
Back to sleep. Now I am in a future mall. This old man is telling me about a competition. It just keeps going until there is only one person left. Most everyone gets a huge was of cash. It is a test of the mind and of the body. Just my type. My sister signs up too. She is definitely the type that would, she is a beast. We go through tons of obstacles and things. Some even involving the house from the previous dream. Then we are near the ocean. Kevin from the office is participating via a really buff dude. We are all rowing and pushing something. The fat rich man gets on a podium and tells us who won. He said the last part can have two winners, they just have to survive. Everyone else has been disqualified but me and my sister. We jump on a raft. My sis is now my wife, don't know when that switch happened. It goes out into the ocean. We are just floating along the shore. Nothing big. Then the ocean led us up to a street and we start walking. I am getting clothes again. The mall we were at earlier is a inside/outside futuristic mall. I buy some clothes. I get to the fat rich man and he tells us we can split a million and have more presents. He gives me a peice of bread with the Money and a pipe in it. before giving it to me he shows me that there is a bomb inside. He gives me a diamond ring as well. He uses the same type of bomb for his assistant and blows off both his hands. I tear the money and the pipe from the bread and drop the bread. I leave to go to celebration parties. After a long time there I want to get back to my wife (we went to different parties). I am talking to my LDer (while driving the opposite way down the same road i became lucid on) friend and telling him about the lucid that I had in the car the previous night. He said "don't ever look in mirrors" and moved the car mirror away from us. I told him that some people use it as an RC. He stopped talking to me. I got on my phone on DV and lots of people were asking me to make holographic cards for them. I didn't have the time, but I thought it was funny because I noted that Cmind wanted a holographic card of mzzkc. In the dream I replied with that being weird since mzzkc is a friend of mine IRL. Which isn't true. For some reason in the dream he was an old man I know (not too old. 55ish). I woke up.

Going back to sleep now. Talk to you in the morning. hopefully more LDs.

Awesome. I wish I could have longer lucid dreams. The longest I've had is around 30 minutes, and even that I don't remember 90% of it, but know on awakening by feeling, though it's hard to describe. Like having a sense of time without specific memories.

I just asked my one other friend who's had a lucid dream how long his first and so far only lucid dream lasted, and he said it "felt like 6 hours, but was actually an hour and a half". I'm guessing it was actually less than that, but either way that's way longer than any of my lucid dreams! Now I'm a little jealous...

I'm curious if maybe my dreams are short in part because I expect them to be short? I asked him, and he said he never heard that lucid dreams are 'supposed to be' short, (although now he knows), so maybe this does have an effect on things.

EDIT: Oh, by the way, what technique did you use for that? SSILD is my favorite now for WBTB's, but I want to find a second technique that will help me make use of the mid-night dreams, i.e. a technique that I can use before bed each night.

I read in Stephen LaBerge's book that MILD can work quite reliably... do you think I should try that?

Longest LD was 30 minutes. Longest dream seemed about 2 weeksish. :/

I think expectation helps a lot with this as well. You should change your expectation. The best way for this is sivasons yoga class. Meditation helps with a lot of things.

I have been using MILD even though I said I was only gonna use SSILD. just using a mantra and intent. I started DDA yesterday as well, since I got bored. I needed LDs

last week, i used the mantra « i will have long vivid and lucid dreams» and i had a nonlucid that somehow lasted from september to may in another country. of course i cant remember all days but i remember missing my family. and really worrying about them

Day 11

No results or effects, but I did the WBTB at a little over 4 hours after bed and had a natural awakening 1 hour later, and had to get up only a half hour after that, so not the most opportune attempt. I did the cycles basically the way Venryx does and that is probably how I will do them from now on. When I did the cycles, towards the end random thoughts did jump in a little but I was still able to get back on track and concentrate enough to finish easily, so I assume I did enough cycles.

Attempts: 10; Lucids: 2; FAs: 4

If you're good at SSILD, I'd like your opinion: When I wake up naturally (prior to getting up for the day) after my WBTB and SSILD, should I:
A. Do another WBTB so I can do all the cycles again
B. Do a few cycles as I fall back asleep
C. Fall back asleep ASAP

And does it vary based on how long it has been since my last awakening or cycles?

Day 36

Another lucid. (no false awakenings, because my awareness faded as the dream continued, and I got swept into the dream plot)

This dream was about things that were kind of silly/embarrassing, so I'm not going to write it down, although it involved being on a cruise ship as part of a group.

Attempts: 18, Lucids: 12, OBE's: 1, FA's: 30, HI's: 2

Day 1 : AMAZIING! Awsome expierience will be using this.


So I went to bed fell asleep round 11:15. Woke up 2:20am. Got up went piss and drank a sip of water (only reason I did this is because I keep reading that people do this when they wake up.) So I tried the SSILD Went through 1 cycle then my baby brother started crying. Then I tried to ignore but my cat jumped on me. I waited til brother stopped. Then I attemp again. Did 2 cycles and my mind wondered and I caught myself and continued. Then I tried to fall asleep on my back, I usuallu sleep on my side, and layed there for 15 mins. Finally decided I wanna sleep so I turned over and did 2 more cycles. Suddly out of nowhere (and for some reason I dont remember well.) I started vibrating, and some noises started to happen. I remember one thing though, that I reminded myself to calm down. Next thing I know im in a dream. I know im dreaming instantly. I tried to walk around a bit as I qas facinated, but after 20 seconds it was over. I woke up and the time was 3:30am. So I must have slept for almost exactly 45 mins. I am so excited , I think its my excitement to try this method that made it happen last night. The vibrations were so awsome too! Felt neat. Anyways, thats my expierience. :3

Just came back to lucid dreaming after a very long break, I'll definitely be trying this test to get back into it. I have a week off from school so I think this is the perfect moment to figure out whether this is the right technique for me or not.
First attempt will be tonight!

Day 13

Had 2 LDs last night. Nothing notable. :/

2nd set
6 LDs so far in 6 days.

Day 12 and Day 13

Nothing again. :/ I have however looked over my dream journal and discovered two things:
1. SSILD only worked for me after a couple of natural awakenings, each time being awake enough (because I already had a lot of sleep) to do several cycles on each one. Most of these last 13 days, I simply didn't do enough cycles on each awakening. Even when I did 7 cycles after WBTB on the recent days, on the natural awakenings after that I fell asleep too soon I think. So when it says in the tutorial to "perform a few extra medium-paced SSILD cycles" upon a real awakening, that really should be done.
2. The last few days I did do a decent number of cycles once, I had an unusually aware dream about 1 hour 20 minutes after that, despite having a natural awakening in between the cycles awakening and the awakening from the dream. If I had been able to sleep more these nights and did a decent number of cycles on any awakening(s), I bet I would be likely to become lucid.

So I still consider myself to be making progress through perfecting the technique for myself.

Attempts: 12; Lucids: 2; FAs: 4

Days 7-10

I attempted it once during a nap, but I only recalled a non-lucid FA. I'm going to really try and place more focus and time into this.

Attempts: 3, Lucids: 2, FAs: 3

Days 1-2
Nothing notable. Got too distracted by my boyfriends heavy breathing on Day 1 (even woke him up to ask if he was having a nightmare), and I got kind of scared of the dark afterwards. Set the alarm to a later time on Day 2, but I seem to have fallen asleep before I could even get up for the WBTB.
I do seem to have recovered my dream recall quite well!
Attempts: 2
Lucids: 0
FA's: 0

Day 37, 38

No attempt.

Attempts: 18, Lucids: 12, OBE's: 1, FA's: 30, HI's: 2

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Day 39

Another lucid and two more false awakenings. (and I missed the second one!)

Here's the account: Lucid Dream 41 - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Attempts: 19, Lucids: 13, OBE's: 1, FA's: 32, HI's: 2

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EDIT: This brings my success rate with this technique to just over 66%!!!

Day 14

Yes! Lucid again. Probably my personal best lucid yet. The bad news though is that like my previous SSILD lucids, I was only able to do this by sleeping way in, which I can't do much, and would prefer to not have to do at all. I still need to work on being mentally, and not just bodily, awake enough to concentrate enough during the cycles each time I wake up, hopefully I can make it work for me earlier in the night. And also maybe keep myself from waking up too often.

Anyway, some highlights. Once again lucidity was basically spontaneous. It started with a dream which I forgot but which I wanted to leave so I blinked rapidly while repeatedly shouting, "Wake up!" This led to a FA in my dark bedroom (actually my head was under the blanket - in reality the bedroom was pretty bright by this time). I plug my nose and breathe, bringing on full lucidity. I'm pretty sure this FA ends for some reason, leading to another FA that goes the same way again. I get up and feel the wall to the light switch, which is already up, and switching it does nothing. The rest of the dream takes place in my house, but I can tell a lot is different, and I realize after waking up some parts actually are from my last house. A combination of the same houses happened in my 1st LD too. It also changes from night to day outside somewhere along the way.

Towards the end I decide to drive my car and explore and I see the loop the keys are on hanging on a door handle, but the keys look like fake keys. I figure it'll work anyway so I try to take them, but the handle is attached to the door on both ends, so it is impossible to get the keys off (at least without enough skill at dream control to perform the physically impossible anyway). I go get my other keys but I wake up before I get them! In LDs this is 2 for 2 where my subconscious found ways to keep me from driving the dream roads away from home.

One time I looked at my hand to show a DC and it actually looked normal. (Another point in this dream when I was by myself it had extra fingers.) I plugged my nose and breathed deep in front of a DC and asked them how I did that since its physically impossible. Their response was like this: "It just sounds like you did that."

Attempts: 10*; Lucids: 3; FAs: 6

*I decided to eliminate 3 more of the attempts as these were not really attempts, unless you count struggling to concentrate to do one or two cycles at best and falling back asleep over and over as an attempt, which I won't since it's nowhere near what the instructions say to do and isn't fair to the technique.

Day 14
Forgot to SSILD. I am still counting it as a day, but when looking at it and reviewing I will definitely note that I didn't SSILD last night. No LDs, just a bunch of vivid dreams. It is a very good encouragement to have lots of dreams. Recall helps with awareness and with attitude about lucid dreaming.

Screw it, doing it tonight, don't care how tired or unmotivated I am, no exceptions, doing it. Expect results posted within the next 24 hours.

I tried to do it this morning, but when I heard the alarm and turned it off,... for some reason it didn't even cross my mind why I'd turned it on. In fact, for the first few seconds I was so non-awake that I thought the beeping was just me imagining the alarm going off.

Day 15

Not that great of an attempt, no results.

Day 16

Success! Another lucid, and this one came before 6 hours of sleep elapsed. I do know now that it can cause lucidity in less than 80 minutes, as I wrongly theorized previously. I think it is important that one not have awakenings too often while trying to use the technique.

The lucid dream was low awareness and short but that has nothing to do with the cycles. I got lucid riding in a car at night, and I could sense the instability of the dream. It slowly faded to blackness and I did the spinning technique which brought back the same scene but then the car came out of a tunnel and disappeared which left me with just a visual sense of flying over a sandstone canyon with water in the bottom. This faded and I felt myself lying in bed this time.

Attempts: 12; Lucids: 4; FAs: 6

Pff did I forget about this thread? I'll do an attempt tonight.

Last 2 days, nothing. I did a bunch of awareness today though and plan on SSILDing tonight, but I can't stand not having lucids. I will continue using SSILD, but not alone. It doesn't work well for me.

Day 40

Interrupted attempt. (I'm including these now to be comprehensive--I think this was my third so far)

Day 41

No attempt.

Day 42

Another lucid and two more false awakenings.

Here's the account: Lucid Dream 43 - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Attempts: 20(+3 interrupted), Lucids: 14, OBE's: 1, FA's: 34, HI's: 2

Attempt 4

So last night as I was laying in bed to go to sleep, I decided to do a few cycles because hey what the hell. So I do that, but then I find I'm having trouble sleeping. So I start following my breath, a good way to fall asleep. After like fifteen minutes, I totally just fall right into sleep paralysis, body shaking like mad. This has never happened at bedtime. Anyway, I thought to myself "This is scary and most likely will lead nowhere, because I'm going into NREM." So I tried to move really hard to break out of it. Succeeding at that, I closed my eyes again and the exact same thing happened a second time. I woke up in the middle of the night for another attempt, but as always, I fell asleep after about one cycle. I need to stay up for WBTB longer but I'm just soooo tiiiiiiiired!

Yeah, that's definitely something I don't see every day. I think this technique probably has something to it.

Strange Occurrences: 1 (changing FA category to this, much more broad.)
Lucids: 0

Where can I find information on this technique? I want to attempt this for the next thirty days as well.