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      Waking Charactoristics and LDing

      In Beta Mode....Working out exactly how to phrase each question. Responses are crucial for working out the kinks with this survey.

      Revision #3 (1/25/2009)

      Updated Questions 1,4,5,7,8, and Test 2



      Some people can naturally LD yet others can not. It may take months, even years for some people to learn this skill, while others get it overnight. We can debate for hours on end why this is, or we can do research.

      Hence the purpose of this thread. I want to collect data from Lucid Dreamers and compile it to see the similarities. The data will come from various tests and questions designed to get data about a particular aspect of the mind. Memory must be a factor in Dream Recall, as with remembering to do RCs. Imagination must play a factor in how well dreams are formed. But perhaps some other factors are in play. How often does one daydream, or meditate? How often does one perform RCs while awake? Ect...

      So, I would like everyone to respond to these questions (whether or not you can LD). You may post them here or PM me, though some challenges will require you to PM me. I will, when I get enough data, compile it and post it here so we can all anaylize it and determine which people are more prone to LDs than others. If you have a question you think should be added, PM me please.

      AND, please limit this thread to reporting back only. Any discussion about why LDs are natural to some and not others can be put here: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=72334. THANKS!
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      Again, you may post the answers here, though if you PM me I will post your results as Anonymous.

      Question 1: How often do you LD? Did you have to learn how to LD or can you do it naturally?

      Question 2: How does the following techniques work for you on a normal night: DILD; DEILD; WBTB accompanied with WILD; other?

      Question 3: How long did it take you to get your first LD on purpose?

      Question 4: What was your high school average? (A, B, C, D, F)

      Question 4: Can you draw, paint, or write with attention to detail? Rate from 1 (being comparable to a 2 year old) to 10 (We are talking da Vinci at this level) Please explain why you feel this rating is correct

      Question 5: Rate the following subject area from 1 to 10 (1 being awful, 10 being amazing)
      -Mathematics
      -History
      -English
      -Foreign Language
      -Art
      -Sciences
      -Human Studies (psychology, sociology, ect)

      Question 6: If you have taken a IQ test (they are free online) what did you score?

      Question 7: Do you pay attention to detail during your waking life? Explain.

      Question 8: Do you meditate/use self-hypnosis/feel as one with yourself?

      Test 1: Go to http://www.dreamviews.com/induction.php. Look at the first word in the text. Remember it, and PM me 24 hours from now the word. Please no cheating for the sake of experimentation.

      Test 2: Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St...y_terminal.jpg for 2 minutes. Close the page and describe the picture as much as you can.

      Test 3: Offer me a reason why some people can LD better than others.
      Last edited by night_watcher; 01-26-2009 at 02:26 AM. Reason: updated 1,4,5,7,8, and test 2
      Hmm....doesn't seem right....
      Was that a dancing banana? A dancing muffin? I'm forgetting something.....oh yeah!
      REALITY CHECK

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      Question 1: How often do you LD?
      Seems to be everytime I get a decent amount of sleep (somewhere between 7-8hrs, w/ less than 2 interruptions). Which is less often lately as I have 2 kids.

      Question 2: How does the following techniques work for you on a normal night: DILD; DEILD; WBTB accompanied with WILD; other?
      Never conciously tried any technique as I only learned of them since my first visit to these forums, so I can't say.

      Question 3: How long did it take you to get your first LD on purpose?
      Oh jeeze... About 2 months of dreaming the same nightmare and just wanting it to go away. Yes, I'd say about 2 months of trying to realise I was dreaming while dreaming then another week to take control and make a different decision, which ended the series of this repetitive nightmare.

      Question 4: What was your high school average? (A, B, C, D, F)
      I'd have to say B- but I was a serious slacker. I should have been an A student, had I ever given a sh*t.

      Question 4: Can you draw, paint, or write with attention to detail? If so, explain.
      Absolutely. I have done an excellent representation of a snow leopard in oil paint, a camel head with powdered graphite, a sketch of a dragon on a lunar surface, and lots of other art. My art teacher begged me to go to art school and tried to convince me to apply for one of the top art schools in Canada (being the slacker that I was, I didn't take her advice... we only regret the things we don't do, eh?). I really ought to become an editor due to my attention to detail in writing, and it will take me forever to finish my book because of the research and complexity of the ideas I am putting into it.

      Question 5: What is your best subject (math, mechanical, sciences, ect)?
      #1: Art #2: Chemistry. I am terrible at math.

      Question 6: If you have taken a IQ test (they are free online) what did you score?
      Oh that was years ago but it was 131.


      As for making this questionaire better and getting real data to compile, you might want to have people score thier answer on a scale. IE: The art question might be put: "On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being terrible and 10 being amazing) how well would you rate your ability to write/draw/paint with attention to detail?" and the 'best classes' question might be best to ask the person to rank 10 classes from 1 to 10 where 1 would be the class they were best at, 10 being worst.... See where I am going with this?


      Test 2: This is a Wikipedia page with a picture of the Staten Island Ferry Terminal. Has been determined to be one of the finest pictures on the Wikipedia. It's a Wikimedia image (whatever that means) It was taken by Daniel Schwen (I think I got the last name wrong The picture shows a cityline from the water. There is a big rust coloured ferry on the left. There seem to be 6 terminals all together: 3 newer ones on the left, 3 older ones on the right? Theres a cool semi circular skyscraper on the left and a cloud that looks like an arrow pointing to the right but the sky is otherwise clear. There are a number of other skyscrapers. The image quality is good enough to be a desktop background image. Thats all I got.

      Test 3: "I'd say it's connected more to imagination and awareness as traits. Since people can learn to lucid dream you have to conclude that it's a skill. Anyone can learn a skill provided they are physiologically capable, and some are faster at learning certain things than others. I'd say people with high imagination and high awareness would be able to learn to lucid dream more readily, primarily because a high imagination would lead to more surreal dreams which may help in becoming aware that you are dreaming." (copied from my answer in http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...62#post1009962)

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      Thanks EarthPixie. Hopefully from the data we receive, there shall be a trend somewhere. I updated some of the questions to help the survey get a better feel of the responses. All future updates shall be in the first post in red.
      Hmm....doesn't seem right....
      Was that a dancing banana? A dancing muffin? I'm forgetting something.....oh yeah!
      REALITY CHECK

      Please fill out my survey, I'm trying to determine if there are any specific characteristics that aid in LDing. http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=72416

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      Question 1: How often do you LD? Did you have to learn how to LD or can you do it naturally?
      I haven't yet had an LD, therefore I can't do it naturally.

      Question 2: How does the following techniques work for you on a normal night: DILD; DEILD; WBTB accompanied with WILD; other?
      Haven't worked yet.

      Question 3: How long did it take you to get your first LD on purpose?


      Question 4: What was your high school average? (A, B, C, D, F)
      A

      Question 4: Can you draw, paint, or write with attention to detail? Rate from 1 (being comparable to a 2 year old) to 10 (We are talking da Vinci at this level) Please explain why you feel this rating is correct
      Art would be a 4. I can color, and draw a bit, but I am not talented in this field at all. But with writing, I would be a 6.
      Question 5: Rate the following subject area from 1 to 10 (1 being awful, 10 being amazing)
      -Mathematics
      -History
      -English
      -Foreign Language
      -Art
      -Sciences
      -Human Studies (psychology, sociology, ect)
      Math = 7
      History = 8
      English = 7
      Foreign Language = 5
      Art = 3
      Sciences = 7
      Human studies = 9

      Question 6: If you have taken a IQ test (they are free online) what did you score?
      125
      Question 7: Do you pay attention to detail during your waking life? Explain.
      Not really. I will notice anything out of the ordinary, but I keep noticing new things in my town that I never have seen before.
      Question 8: Do you meditate/use self-hypnosis/feel as one with yourself?
      I CAN use self-hypnosis, though I rarely do. I do feel as if I know who I am, though.

      Test 1: Go to http://www.dreamviews.com/induction.php. Look at the first word in the text. Remember it, and PM me 24 hours from now the word. Please no cheating for the sake of experimentation.
      I failed this test.

      Test 2: Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St...y_terminal.jpg for 2 minutes. Close the page and describe the picture as much as you can.
      It is a picture of NYC from the sea. In the front there is an orange ferry that is sideways to the viewers. Behind that there is a park. There are other boats in the water nearby. A semi-circular building is on the center-left. Modern buildings are on the right side of the picture. They have close, square windows. On the left side of the picture there are clouds that look like arrows. The sky is a light blue on the right to a darker blue on the left.

      Test 3: Offer me a reason why some people can LD better than others.
      Trying to figure that out right now.
      Hmm....doesn't seem right....
      Was that a dancing banana? A dancing muffin? I'm forgetting something.....oh yeah!
      REALITY CHECK

      Please fill out my survey, I'm trying to determine if there are any specific characteristics that aid in LDing. http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=72416

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      Question 1: How often do you LD? Did you have to learn how to LD or can you do it naturally?
      I am not certain of how often as it is very sporatic, I don't usually try and LD it usually just happens. But if I had to say anything at all I'd say once every month.

      Question 2: How does the following techniques work for you on a normal night: DILD; DEILD; WBTB accompanied with WILD; other? I'm not sure as I have never tried any of them.

      Question 3: How long did it take you to get your first LD on purpose?
      O.o Um... I didn't.

      Question 4: What was your high school average? (A, B, C, D, F)
      B

      Question 4: Can you draw, paint, or write with attention to detail? Rate from 1 (being comparable to a 2 year old) to 10 (We are talking da Vinci at this level) Please explain why you feel this rating is correct
      I can draw at perhaps an 6 and I can write at about a 6 as well, however this is only because I don't like to make myself sound pompous and also because I wouldn't put anyone below a three as I don't think quality of work matters..
      Why? Well if you're looking for this in the respect of art the personal definition for art that I decided for myself is anything that expresses the emotions or feelings of the person who created it.
      Question 5: Rate the following subject area from 1 to 10 (1 being awful, 10 being amazing)
      -Mathematics - 10
      -History - 7
      -English - 10
      -Foreign Language - 5
      -Art - 10
      -Sciences - 7
      -Human Studies (psychology, sociology, ect) - 10 10 10

      Question 6: If you have taken a IQ test (they are free online) what did you score?
      136

      Question 7: Do you pay attention to detail during your waking life? Explain.
      I wouldn't say I pay attention to detail as I tend to remember rooms with their furniture, not the stuff scattered around also, at least... Not socks on the ground, maybe larger objects such as laundry baskets. I do however pay attention to the invisible, that is the reactions of other people to situations and what they usually talk about, how different activities make people act, that sort of thing.

      Question 8: Do you meditate/use self-hypnosis/feel as one with yourself?
      I don't make a habit of it, but I have been known to meditate or at least attempt to meditate. I usually try to empty my mind or concentrate on a mantra.



      I'll maybe PM you, I don't know how much I am feeling up to remembering something at midnight, maybe at an earlier time tomorrow.

      As for the reason some people can LD better than others I'm sticking with my original hypothesis which is they learned how to young and retained the knowledge better.

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      As I can't find an edit button for my post I am posting a separate post with my tests. Hope you don't mind. ^^

      Test 1:
      Successful.

      Test 2:
      It was a picture of Staten Island as taken from a few hundred feet out of some ferry terminals. To the left of the two ferry terminals there is a ferry leaving which is slightly larger in length than the terminals are in width, also it is orange. Behind the terminals there were lots of buildings, the buildings on the left were partially hidden by a tree line and were much shorter than the buildings to the right. The left buildings look as though they would be libraries, museums, etc. where as the buildings to the right looked like offices and business related buildings. The sky was mostly cloudless except for two clouds on the left the topmost one resembled an arrow pointing to the right and the other just a cloud drifting passed or possibly hopping into the picture as it had never been photographed before and would really have liked to be.

      Test 3:
      Reason why some people can LD better than others.
      Well I think the most obvious reason is practice, unless you are talking about their ability to LD at will or that sort of thing. In which case I think it has to do with their age at which they learned to LD, the younger they are the more adapt they are.

      So I am not sure if you had an age question on your quiz but perhaps you should add simple things like "Male or Female" "Age" "Ethnic Group" "Age at which they started to LD"

      Just to see if Males have a harder time LDing than girls, which age groups attempt to LD the most, and I"m sure ethnic group wouldn't matter unless LDing was taught early on in life because of it, and age at which they started to see if people who started to LD when they were extremely young are better or worse at LDing than someone who started LDing later on in life but have spent the same amount of years doing it.

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      Question 1: How often do you LD? Did you have to learn how to LD or can you do it naturally?
      not much, i have had 10 lucid dreams since about november, and some were very small

      Question 2: How does the following techniques work for you on a normal night: DILD; DEILD; WBTB accompanied with WILD; other?
      DILD used to work when i had a more focused mind, now DEILD works better because it is more reliable, but i need to find the time for it.

      Question 3: How long did it take you to get your first LD on purpose?
      2 days

      Question 4: What was your high school average? (A, B, C, D, F)
      ive not finished high school yet, and the exams i have had results for dont work like A,B,C... they were 1,2,3... (1 being best) my average was 2. which i think is equivelant to about A minus, or B plus

      Question 4: Can you draw, paint, or write with attention to detail? Rate from 1 (being comparable to a 2 year old) to 10 (We are talking da Vinci at this level) Please explain why you feel this rating is correct
      5, i dont do well in english at all, but i did alright in art, but im no artist. so i might even be 4 or less, i dont know

      Question 5: Rate the following subject area from 1 to 10 (1 being awful, 10 being amazing)
      -Mathematics: 8
      -History: 5 (didnt do much of it)
      -English: 2
      -Foreign Language: 7 (i was good at it, but it was boring)
      -Art: 7
      -Sciences: 10
      -Human Studies (psychology, sociology, ect): N/A (havent done it, im thinking of doing psychology next year though)

      Question 6: If you have taken a IQ test (they are free online) what did you score?
      cant fully remember but it was somewhere inbetween 130-138, but i think it was around 35

      Question 7: Do you pay attention to detail during your waking life? Explain.
      my mind wanders a lot, so i dont pay attention to much, althoigh i do naturally watch out for peoples body language, to see if i am annoying them, weirding them out, or just generally doing something wrong, aand also it helps to wether i should say/do soemthing.

      Question 8: Do you meditate/use self-hypnosis/feel as one with yourself?
      i started meditating recently.

      Test 1: Go to http://www.dreamviews.com/induction.php. Look at the first word in the text. Remember it, and PM me 24 hours from now the word. Please no cheating for the sake of experimentation.
      will do

      Test 2: Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St...y_terminal.jpg for 2 minutes. Close the page and describe the picture as much as you can.
      an orange ferry at the front with black bottom. semi circle blue tall building. white wide, long, tall building, with corners sticking out slightly at the top. orange thinner building at back. a small whisp of cloud at top left. to the right, there is a long building, but thin, and tall. near to that, underneath, there are 3 little arches.

      Test 3: Offer me a reason why some people can LD better than others.
      it really all ties into how focused their mind is.

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      1. I've only LDed about 10 times total, so I'd have to say pretty sporadically.
      I had to learn -- I don't think I ever could have done it without trying.

      2. WBTB has been the only technique that's worked. I've never successfully done WILD.

      3. A few weeks after I first heard of LDing.

      4(1). Straight As

      4(2). I'd say drawing, around 3... I'm an okay writer though, so 5 or 6 for that.

      5.
      Mathematics: 10
      History: 6
      English: 3
      Foreign Language: 9
      Art: 4
      Sciences: 9
      Human Studies (psychology, sociology, ect): N/A

      6. N/A

      7. Not really... a lot of times I get places and totally forget how or why ._. Although I've been trying to pay more attention lately.

      8. I don't do hypnosis or anything, but I don't see why I wouldn't "feel at one with" myself.

      T2. An orange ferry is pulling into a terminal on bluish-green water.. looks about midday, the sky is mostly clear with whispy clouds in the distance.. there are people on the bluish thingy in the middle of the ferry.. behind the ferry and its dock are buildings that generally get taller as you look to the right.. directly behind the dock is a building with a mirror-like side that's reflecting some buildings around it.. to the left of it there's this cool semicircular light blue translucent-looking building.. all of the buildings to the right of that look sort of the same, all the same grayish and black colors, and they seem to meet at odd angles.. to the left of the semicircular building the buildings are mostly made out of brick instead of metal.. I think that's all I remember

      T3. It seems to me like people that have had reoccurring nightmares/night terrors earlier in life tend to focus more on controlling their dreams when they have less to worry about (as young children), and therefore become better LDers when older.


      Just one bit of advice for the questionnaire: on question 5, on the subject rating, keep in mind that many people don't have English as a first language, so English would be their "foreign language." You might want to change English to "literature" or something similar.
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      -.- I just realized you can only edit a post within so many hours or days...so the first post is stuck that way. I'd still love feedback, its just that this thread won't become the final version, right now, as is stated, it is in beta mode. And, I will simply record all the data once I decide the questions are as fine-tuned as I can make them, so whoever posts now won't have to re-post.

      I hate being the type of person who wants to see a trend where there may not be one, so I'm trying not to analyze trends yet. It will be easier if we can get advanced LDers to post their info....give it time, give it time.... Thanks all who have posted!
      Hmm....doesn't seem right....
      Was that a dancing banana? A dancing muffin? I'm forgetting something.....oh yeah!
      REALITY CHECK

      Please fill out my survey, I'm trying to determine if there are any specific characteristics that aid in LDing. http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=72416

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      As Responded by WiLdMaN_78

      Question 1: How often do you LD? Did you have to learn how to LD or can you do it naturally?
      SP naturally. I turned SP into WILD with some will.

      Question 2: How does the following techniques work for you on a normal night: DILD; DEILD; WBTB accompanied with WILD; other?
      Always SP to WILP

      Question 3: How long did it take you to get your first LD on purpose?
      About 3 weeks after my first attempt I was successful

      Question 4: What was your high school average? (A, B, C, D, F)
      B+ College 4.0

      Question 4: Can you draw, paint, or write with attention to detail? Rate from 1 (being comparable to a 2 year old) to 10 (We are talking da Vinci at this level) Please explain why you feel this rating is correct
      Write. I tend to be more creative than detail oriented. I'm terrible at spelling and grammar!

      Draw-5
      Paint-4
      Write-7

      Question 5: Rate the following subject area from 1 to 10 (1 being awful, 10 being amazing)
      -Mathematics-9
      -History-5
      -English -4
      -Foreign Language-3
      -Art-2
      -Sciences-9
      -Human Studies (psychology, sociology, ect)-7

      Question 6: If you have taken a IQ test (they are free online) what did you score?
      132


      Question 7: Do you pay attention to detail during your waking life? Explain.
      Very much yes. I have been diagnosed with adult ADD although I am not treated, by choice. I am an extreme multitasker in private and professional life. I am a walking sponge, full of useless knowledge.

      Question 8: Do you meditate/use self-hypnosis/feel as one with yourself?
      No
      Hmm....doesn't seem right....
      Was that a dancing banana? A dancing muffin? I'm forgetting something.....oh yeah!
      REALITY CHECK

      Please fill out my survey, I'm trying to determine if there are any specific characteristics that aid in LDing. http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=72416

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      Question 1: How often do you LD? Did you have to learn how to LD or can you do it naturally?


      - Given a life long average... Twice a week, give or take. No

      Question 2: How does the following techniques work for you on a normal night: DILD; DEILD; WBTB accompanied with WILD; other?

      DILD most often, DEILDs often enough, WILDs uncommonly, WBTB never.

      Question 3: How long did it take you to get your first LD on purpose?

      One night, but hard to answer

      Question 4: What was your high school average? (A, B, C, D, F)

      A

      Question 4: Can you draw, paint, or write with attention to detail? Rate from 1 (being comparable to a 2 year old) to 10 (We are talking da Vinci at this level) Please explain why you feel this rating is correct

      Draw = 5, Paint = 6, Write = 9

      Question 5: Rate the following subject area from 1 to 10 (1 being awful, 10 being amazing)
      -Mathematics 9
      -History 8
      -English 7
      -Foreign Language 9
      -Art 8
      -Sciences 10
      -Human Studies (psychology, sociology, ect) 10


      Question 6: If you have taken a IQ test (they are free online) what did you score?

      I've taken a real one, I got 156. After I did fifteen online ones, and averaged them together I got 148

      Question 7: Do you pay attention to detail during your waking life? Explain.

      Yes, ever seen Psych?

      Question 8: Do you meditate/use self-hypnosis/feel as one with yourself?

      I used to meditate, but stopped...


      Test 2

      There are about 20 buildings, lined up against a deep green river. In the river, there is a large dark orange ship, that could easily hold 1500 people, it is moving toward a docking area. The boat is about to dock in the closest spot, another boat recently left the dock. the dock could hold 3 ships. Near to the buildings is a set of trees, most likely part of a park. the buildings are a mixture of old and new, there is what looks like a courthouse on the left side, a crane in the background, and a new blue building right in the center. The tall buildings on the right all look to be at most twenty years old.

      Test 3: Offer me a reason why some people can LD better than others.

      Time and effort, baby.
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      Bollocks.

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      Question 1: How often do you LD? Did you have to learn how to LD or can you do it naturally? Now, daily, had to learn, but started as a kid.

      Question 2: How does the following techniques work for you on a normal night: DILD; DEILD; WBTB accompanied with WILD; other?
      DILD- (Excellent) My main technique, works most of the times and I need truly of the RC to become lucid lol
      DEILD- (Good) What I tend to do if the dream ends and I didn't want it to, doesn't works every time, but I'm getting better at it.
      WILD- (Bad) Something I'm not that good at, will mostly fail, doesn't like much anyway <.<

      Question 3: How long did it take you to get your first LD on purpose?
      Just 8 years!

      Question 4: What was your high school average? (A, B, C, D, F)
      As I'm lazy, C (just guessing, different system here lol)

      Question 4: Can you draw, paint, or write with attention to detail? Rate from 1 (being comparable to a 2 year old) to 10 (We are talking da Vinci at this level) Please explain why you feel this rating is correct

      3, because, of course, I suck at painting and all the others that are written there <.< (Can't even draw an apple properly... to small of handwritting, etc)

      Question 5: Rate the following subject area from 1 to 10 (1 being awful, 10 being amazing)
      -Mathematics (7)
      -History (5)
      -English (6) "take that as spanish"
      -Foreign Language (6) "take that as english/others"
      -Art (6) "even tough I suck at it"
      -Sciences (8)
      -Human Studies (psychology, sociology, ect) (8)

      Question 6: If you have taken a IQ test (they are free online) what did you score? Pft, online ones are all lies... the one I took in spanish said 169, took 2 in english, one said 147 and other 136, dunno about the real thing as I never took one in school <.<

      Question 7: Do you pay attention to detail during your waking life? Explain.
      Depends, if I'm paranoic/or bored I will pay attention to anything, or if I'm excited about something, time will pass really fast along with all the things I won't notice, there is the ocasional one where I'm excited about putting attention to things for some reason or other tough <.<

      Question 8: Do you meditate/use self-hypnosis/feel as one with yourself? More like I'm in war with myself lol But that just makes me more aware of my actions... sometimes <.<

      Test 1: Go to http://www.dreamviews.com/induction.php. Look at the first word in the text. Remember it, and PM me 24 hours from now the word. Please no cheating for the sake of experimentation.
      Which text... "takes very first word because is too lazy"

      Test 2: Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St...y_terminal.jpg for 2 minutes. Close the page and describe the picture as much as you can.
      Lets see, the 2 buildings at the start have a different color (orange/alike) then there are 3 buildings that, because of the sky, have a blue color, then there are another 5 or 6 buildings in white/blue and the 2 at the front of those 5-6 have white/blue and little brown, then there is another serie of 3 blue buildings and 3 more white, between the blue buildings is a small one compared to the others and therefore is hard to find it, then we have a serie of 4 more white/blue buildings, from there, we have that only 3 of all those buildings have a different kind of window, 1 between the last blue building (of 2nd list) and the first white one (too of second white ones) which has horizontal looking windows (no squares), the other 2 have vertical looking ones (no squares), one between the first and last white building (2nd list) and lastly, between the last white/blue ones, the 1st building, the 2nd list of blue buildings got the tallest one too. Then is the port, with I think, 3 decks? (yeah, I dunno the english word), each one with a small ship, then a big orange ship, which, from the look, tons of people inside, full actually, there is another ship at the left, and 2 more decks (watching saw 2... so anything weird is because of that lol) one with a person laying on a white post, then if we go more to the right, at the side of the last building, a small blue thing that I don't know what it is, only 2 clouds can be seen, one of them looks like a really bad written C, the other I can't remember, all of the windows as stated before, have a square look apart from the 3 buildings.

      Test 3: Offer me a reason why some people can LD better than others.
      That depends, lets take naturals first, that one I guess has to do with DNA, some kind of chemical that lets your brain like-awake while asleep, so LDing may be really, really easy.
      Then people who train it, that one got more chances, lets start.
      1.- The one training has an easy time falling asleep and visualizing, making it easier to WILD.
      2.- Excellent visualization skills, DEILD and WILD becomes easier in some way.
      3.- Has an easy time changing schedule, increasing the chance of becoming aware thanks to a RC.
      4.- His/Her dreams are extremly influenced by daily activities, making RCs happen more often and letting the awareness DILD work better.
      5.- Is very well aware of all their actions, making it easy to learn dream feeling and therefore DILD every single time with easy after the first natural lucid, as long as schedule/status doesn't change.
      6.- Easy time meditating, therefore MILD and WILD will be less hard than it is for most.
      Thats all I can think of while watching saw lol And from what I has seen on DVs, could have more but... LD isn't that popular <.<

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      Question 1: How often do you LD? Did you have to learn how to LD or can you do it naturally?
      When I don't try maybe once a couple of months... If i try maybe twice a month... I had to learn how to LD.

      Question 2: How does the following techniques work for you on a normal night: DILD; DEILD; WBTB accompanied with WILD; other?
      DILD is so far the only successful method I've done. DEILD I got the SP but fell asleep. And for WBTB with WILD I usually lay there for an hour and fall alseep.

      Question 3: How long did it take you to get your first LD on purpose?
      It took about a month for me to have my first.

      Question 4: What was your high school average? (A, B, C, D, F)
      My average grade is about a B+.

      Question 4: Can you draw, paint, or write with attention to detail? Rate from 1 (being comparable to a 2 year old) to 10 (We are talking da Vinci at this level) Please explain why you feel this rating is correct
      I can draw at about a 4... Paint at maybe a 2... But for writing with detail I'd say maybe a 7 if I tried... I've never really drawn alot, painted even less, so my skills in those areas are quite lacking... As for writing with detail I could go into alot of it if I wanted to.

      Question 5: Rate the following subject area from 1 to 10 (1 being awful, 10 being amazing)
      -Mathematics 5
      -History 6
      -English 7
      -Foreign Language5
      -Art 6
      -Sciences 9
      -Human Studies 7

      Question 6: If you have taken a IQ test (they are free online) what did you score?
      Last time I took one online I got a 139.

      Question 7: Do you pay attention to detail during your waking life? Explain.
      I try to pay attention to detail, but usually I get distarcted easily... But If I'm agnry or annoyed I usually focus alot more.

      Question 8: Do you meditate/use self-hypnosis/feel as one with yourself?
      I usually meditate every day for about an hour to an hour and a half when I get home from school.

      Test 1: I'll pm you tomorrow, if I remember...

      Test 2: I see several Sky scrapers on the right of the picture, and several more far off ones on the right of the picture. There is an orange ferry. Near the center of the ferry is a half circle shped sky scraper that appers blue. Most of the sky scrapers on the right appear white, while most in the back on the left are red. The water seems to be a bit murky as well. In front of the sky scrapers on the left is a group of trees. There is also a crane several building in on the left.

      Test 3: This one I'm not sure about. Maybe some people are more aware then others and can easily check for any abnormalities...
      "Death is lighter than a feather, duty heavier than a mountain." The Wheel of Time series.

      Total LDs: 9
      DILDs: 9

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      Since I can't edit my previous post, I'm posting to say that I passed the first test.
      "Death is lighter than a feather, duty heavier than a mountain." The Wheel of Time series.

      Total LDs: 9
      DILDs: 9

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      Question 1: I have only had one lucid dream and I had to learn

      Question 2: the only methods I have tried are DELD and WILD,,, DELD is how I had my lucid dream I am trying to wild but stay up to late so I doesn't work

      Question 3: I believe it was around a month but I had many distractions (school a family member passing on and just life in general.

      Question 4: A

      Question 4: I cannot paint. I am not that bad at drawing using just a pencil but I'm no Picaso id rank myself a 5. My writing Is very good next semester in school I will be entering an English class in College and I will only be in 10th grade.

      Question 5:
      -Mathematics=6
      -History=9
      -English=9
      -Foreign Language=0 (im going to take Japanese soon)
      -Art=5
      -Sciences=8
      -Human Studies (psychology, sociology, ect)=0

      Question 6: I have not taken an IQ test

      Question 7: I don't pay a whole lot of attention to detail unless its something I care about like cars/guitar that kind of stuff. although I do analyze danger very well and can almost always tell whats going to happen to someone if they do something(unless that person is me)

      Question 8: no but I would like to start

      Test 1 I will PM soon

      Test 2 ok on the bottom left corner of the picture you can see a small group of around 10 trees and below it the wake of the tanish gold two story ferry above the trees in the sky are the only two could formations in the photograph the one on top looking like an arrow - > and the one below looks like a very distorted line. in the entire picture I would guess there are around 20 buildings including one red building in the distance two buildings that look like docks a building that looks huge with a wide square bottom that suddenly thins out. one very eye catching building is a sort or half cylinder blue building two buildings two the right of it is a structure that has very reflective windows which about 1/3 are reflecting an image of the huge building. the next buildings that caught my attention were two tan and blue buildings in the distance directly next to each other but it appears one has some sort of crane on it. that last building that caught my attention was one that had a wall pattern like this

      ^^^^
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      but the lines were a sort of sea green raised from the building and close spaced

      test 3 I think it comes down to your personality if you really go all out for something like doing RCs during the day and trying to learn more about lucid dreaming and keeping a dream journal you will do better. persistence pays of
      Last edited by ben505; 02-16-2009 at 11:50 PM. Reason: forgot test number 3

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