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      Quote Originally Posted by Naiya View Post
      but because there is more than one consciousness with more than one experience, that means that even if that theory is completely correct, SOME kind of "objective" reality must arise so that the subjective realities of individual consciousnesses can interact with each other.
      I'll see that mindfuck, and raise you another:

      What if that "objective reality" (which I'm not arguing against at all) is nothing but waves of either information or energy? What if their interacting (as covered by David Bohm) is what gives us our sense of "this and that" - our sense of one object being different from another. Bohm likens the interactions of consciousness as being like whirlpools in a body of water. If viewed from one perspective, they seem as separate entities, but know that the body of water is, really, just one body of water, all whirlpools (even in an ocean) are fundamentally connected.

      So if there is an objective reality, which I believe there likely is, what is that objective reality like? Does it have substance, or is it nothing but energy interacting with (basically) itself in space?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      So if there is an objective reality
      I'm going to raise you one more mindfuck, and suggest that there is no such thing as objective reality, and that reality is created and defined entirely by individual consciousness that cannot interact with each other on a direct level.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      I'll see that mindfuck, and raise you another:

      What if that "objective reality" (which I'm not arguing against at all) is nothing but waves of either information or energy? What if their interacting (as covered by David Bohm) is what gives us our sense of "this and that" - our sense of one object being different from another. Bohm likens the interactions of consciousness as being like whirlpools in a body of water. If viewed from one perspective, they seem as separate entities, but know that the body of water is, really, just one body of water, all whirlpools (even in an ocean) are fundamentally connected.

      So if there is an objective reality, which I believe there likely is, what is that objective reality like? Does it have substance, or is it nothing but energy interacting with (basically) itself in space?
      Hmm. Sounds pretty much like the extension of what I had in mind. Definitely a possibility.

      Actually, the way I used to think of it was that we're all little bubbles in the ocean. We don't know we're all part of the same body of water because we're stuck in our own little air bubbles.

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