Thread: Space cannot be infinite

You are of course correct in essentials, but I do remember reading in A Brief History of Time somewhere that there is some evidence that quarks are truly fundamental particles.

I googled "quark size". I don't know if it means anything to you or how reliable it is but here is the first link it got: link

Originally Posted by Xei

You are of course correct in essentials, but I do remember reading in A Brief History of Time somewhere that there is some evidence that quarks are truly fundamental particles.

All-right, but who said quarks aren't made of something else, much smaller than them? There is a huge difference in not having size and not having observable size. In fact, if they do move in a particular manner, then they *are* probably made of something else. I'm not criticising, I'm just throwing the idea out there. I hate it when science becomes pseudoscience, that's it. Doctors once believed that the liver circulated blood, and that the heart circulated "vital spirit". You never know when or where we could be wrong.

Well, distinguishing between the two is the point of the scientific method.

Hawking's book happened to be in the room with me but I can't find the passage at the moment. To be honest my scope of knowledge around particle physics really isn't enough to speak with much authority on the matter of the evidence for the fundementality of quarks.

For christ's sake, guys, drop it.

Did you even the posts? Lord...

Space might as well be infinite. Sure, it's not currently infinite. But the universe's boundaries are determined by the farthest distances light has traveled in any direction, forever pushing outward.

What determines the boundaries of the universe is if there is something in in it. In order to determine size or infinity or something, you need to measure it. The act of trying to measure beyond the light curtain which separates the universe from the void would put something into that void, thereby expanding the barrier. So in effect you could keep measuring to infinity in any direction.

For me space is infinite and I can't comprehend it otherwise. That might be because I know too little but have a very large point of view. Space for me is not something that I would want to define because definitions create limits and I always try to look beyond the limits.

The expansion of space that modern science explains is already quite defined with limits. But I try to observe beyond the expansion like from another existence or something I can't even explain it. People would say there is "nothing" beyond the expansion or it is "unknown beyond human comprehension". Some would start talking about other dimensions or something like if you get to the edge of the universe you would come out in another point of the universe.

But I see beyond anything that people might try to explain, I see beyond darkness and light I see infinite unknown nothingness that I still consider as "space". That is my heaven and one day after countless deaths I shall merge into that nothingness and achieve perfection.

Forgive me for such vague thoughts but my perception of space is beyond anything explainable. Limits in space don't make any sense to me I can't even imagine limits in space and I'm sure lots of people would consider me retarded for that.