Thread: New Exciting Dream-Game

Here is the very first dream game from the first site I played on. The first number is the post number. The second number (in brackets) is a code for the participant. The host is (0).

2-July-2006

post 1 (1)
Some of us decieded that it could be fun to see if our OBEs/lucid dreams/astral travels/visions etc could be used as some kind of remote viewing tool. Therefore we set up a very simple experiment that everyone can participate in.*

(0) put an object in a cardboard box and marked it "Saltcube RV Experiment 1". The object in the cardboard box is the remote viewing target. (0) will reveal what the object is on the 8th of july (7 days). Untill then you can post what you have picked up in your various experiences.*

I know some of you have intense experiences everyday so I will set a limit of 2 guesses for each person. I recommend you analyse your experiences and post the ones that you somehow think could be the object in the cardboard box.*

Good luck*

2 (1)
I guess Im the first one to take a guess at this.

I just returned from a very short experience. I relaxed entered the alterede state and it quickly got visual. I remembered about our RV experiment and thought about the cardboard box. When I did this an apperance that looked liked my uncle appeared. He took this little black box and inside he found another litle box.*

It was made out of different papers and I got the impression of something that was homemade.*

I did not see the text "Saltcube RV Experiment 1" but there was some other text that kept changing. This text was some kind of code like "H GSW 248" but the letters kept changing as I looked upon it. Then I got the impression that this box had something to do with computerprograms. I was shown something that reminded me of old installation manuals of games.*

I saw paths like "c:/dong" etc and there was some screeshots of some kind of game with some text underneath.*

To summarize this my guess is that the object you put in the cardbox must be some kind of computer software. Could be a floppy disk that is in some kind of box together with a manual.*
3 (2)
The box is empty.

4 (1)
No its not empty. Remote viewing is difficult enough with an object and it would unfair to have no target. Some object have been placed inside the cardboard box.*

5 (0)
Thanks for making this thread, MVX (1). (There is something in the box.) I'm hoping people will be able to make a couple attempts at RVing this, so go ahead and post multiple guesses if you want.*

Also, in addition to detecting that you perceive the object's function to be, try to collect information about its color, texture, temperature, etc.

6 (2)
Well, it would be quite a laugh if it would be empty. But oke, not everyone likes my humor.*

Anyhow, I have read some remote viewing books, but I got scared at the immense training it requires. It is sad you can't do ALL things in life.*

I do sometimes see my alarm clock in my sleep/half-sleep and it always turns out to be exact the same time. Very handy if you can see your alarmclock in your dreams, "Oke, nów it is time to wake up"**

I have also seen "through the eyelids" on some occasions during meditation.*

But I think my conscious mind would 'corrupt' the visions I receive. It would be neat though.

7 (1)
Yeah, I dont expect to be correct either. I have never trained RV and my experiments to prove that my OBEs really happens outside the body have all failed.*

Anyway I think it is important to try it regardless that my previous attempts failed.

8 (0)
I'm not saying that what you got was correct or incorrect, and I agree you're right it's important to keep trying it regardless. I'm thinking that over several tries things may crystalize and it will be useful to watch that process.

9 (0)
(0) quotes (2) then writes:
Hey, maybe for a future experiment I will have an empty box. Or maybe not! You never know....**

I'm not yet completely convinced that all the training some of the books have is as critical as they make it out to be, but maybe it is. From what I can tell, it seems like it's really a matter of making your intuition more exact and the protocols they give are ways to do that but they're not the only ways.*

Next time you have transparent eyelids or are in an OBE, try consciously stating to yourself in short sentences with pauses in between what you're seeing. This has helped me a little to lengthen OBEs and I think it might help make intuition more exact.

10 (0)
Last call before I post what this is!*

I'll post the answer in the evening today (Friday), so get your entries in soon!

11 (3)
big box for such a small thing*
a little white fluffy mouse... who really loves to hide in the corner/one side of the box

12 (4)
it's a book sitting at the bottom of a brown box. The flaps open. light from a large window that it sits near falls in during the afternoon.(hard to tell from my angle - could be a lamp) walls pale - greenish. carpet pale tan. white ceiling, trim and window panes. from the doorway into the room the box sits to the right.*

it may be set on top of something, but out of the way.*

there is a couch maybe dark against the opposite wall that the door is on, but further in the room.there seems to be a lot of 'stuff' in the room. a young man, late 20's early 30's walks in the doorway, he looks towards the box. he holds a can of beverage in his right hand. worn sneakers/shoes, corderoys and t-shirt.*

I cannot get a fix on his face as I have yet to meet him.*

this is my submission.*
and, I may be completely wrong but it's worth a try *

*shrug**

13 (0)
And the answer is

'Picture of red handled black wire strippers'

Wire strippers!*

While none of the entries were dead on, there were accurate elements in each guess.*

(1) picked up on the idea of computer programs, it could be he was getting impressions about me rather than the object. I do computer stuff to make money and anyone picking up impressions about me will probably detect that.*

I like (4) description of the process she saw starting with the room the box is in, the lighting, etc. That part of her RVing was mostly correct (except the greenish walls, there's no couch, and the box was taped shut)*

However the carpet is pale tan and the box was under a window. I don't drink canned drinks usually, I don't own corduroy but I wear jeans pretty frequently.*

The fact that she got 'book' could be the same as (1) RVing me rather than the object because there are books all over the place here.*

(2) was correct in that the box it was in was far bigger than the object.*

I think (6 self-deleted) guess was the closest:*
_________________________________________is it a tomato plant? lol*
I also got a flash of a black spider....________________________________________ _
It's not a tomato plant, but she did get the aspects of color correct: red and black. I'd say this is a good example of how collecting impressions of qualities (color, texture, etc) can be more accurate than trying to tell what it is from the start.*

I'll be posting another thread for the next object soon...


14 (1)
Cool. When I had my experience I was shown that this computer program was in the box. You can say that a computer program is a tool as well but this inaccuracy simply is unacceptable if we are ever going to use our experiences as a RV tool.*

Conclusion of this first bold attempt must be that we failed to use our experiences as a reliable RV tool. However it seems we were each given an impressions about the target so further attempts will show if we are able to get the accuracy needed.

15 (0)
Yep, I think anything that increases a person's intuitive sense is useful since intuition is very valuable in day to day life. A lot of times decisions have to be made without all the information and being able to feel the better one is valuable.*

So whether people can guess the exact object or not isn't quite as important becase this contest can be a pra

Oops! previous text (post) box overloaded. I will continue from post 15:

15 (0)
Yep, I think anything that increases a person's intuitive sense is useful since intuition is very valuable in day to day life. A lot of times decisions have to be made without all the information and being able to feel the better one is valuable.*

So whether people can guess the exact object or not isn't quite as important becase this contest can be a practical exercise.

16 (1)
(1) quotes (0)

So whether people can guess the exact object or not isn't quite as important becase this contest can be a practical exercise.*

then writes:

It is an exercise that can show us some things. As you might know my theory so far is that OBEs, astral travels etc are all creations made by this source. Its like an hyper advanced virtuel reality but the question is if this virtuel reality contains links with our physical reality. If Im ever gonna rely on the infomation comming from my experiences then I really have to experience some success.*

Failure of our experiments also raises some other questions. I believe that if we get experiences that presents itself as some kind of truth and turns out to be false then we should be carefull to see any of the things we experience in these altered states as how it is presented.*

17 (0)
That's true but my point is that intuition is available all the time whether in an altered state or not. Life forces us to use intuition every so often whether we want to or not, simply because we don't have all the information that a strictly logical thought process requires.*

So if a person can increase their intuitive abilities by just a little bit it's worth it.*

(BTW, you don't need to put quote tags around people's posts when you quote them because they've already been added when you use the 'Quote' link)

18 (1)
I agree that the RV experiments can be a way to train our intuition. However I use it simply to see if what Im experiencing in the altered states have a link to reality but now that we talk about it Im sure that there would be no problem if I tried both ways.*
19 (5)
Hmmmm,*

Keys?

20 (0)
(5) wrote:*

Hmmmm,*

Keys?*

Actually this experiment is over but here's the current one:*

Post 1a (0) poster zero is host.

2nd dream experiment
8-July-2005

1 (0)
I've placed an object in a box and labeled it 'Saltcube Remote Viewing Experiment 2'. On the 16th I will post to this thread what it is.*

The goal is for people to intuit what the object is. Anyone may try, just post what you think it is to this thread.*

Tips*

The real purpose of this game is to find out effective methods to RV, so watch not only for what you intuit but*how*you intuit as well so that you can fine tune yourself over time.*

Post everything you do and detect. Rather than simply stating "the object is a XXX" describe the setting you find the object in, its qualities and so forth. Also note your physical setting, did you lay down? Was it an OBE? What time of day? Post anything that seems to be relevant.*

Suggested Method For Intuiting*

The basic idea is give yourself the intention to collect information about the object and then record all the information that comes to you*without evaluating it in any way. Only after you've collected object data do you perform a subjective evaluation of the data.*

You don't want to do these two operations at the same time because this can result in a chaotic feedback loop.*

Bruce Moen calls this finding a balance between your*Interpreter and*[Perceiver.*

For example, try this:*

Lay down, (this is a body mnemonic to start using more right brain than left)*


State, "I'm collecting information about the object's color for 15 seconds starting now"*


Don't actively think about colors, but listen/feel for a feeling of what colors are there. Write these down without evaluating them. If you only get one color then that's what you get. Some objects have only one color, some have hundreds of colors.*

Repeat this process for these other qualities:*

How hard/soft?*

How cold or warm? (metal feels cooler than wood)*

Dense or airy?

Rough or smooth?*

Bendable or rigid?

Some qualities appear to conflict such as "hard" and "soft", however many objects have both hard and soft aspects (such as felt-tip pens).*

After your data has been collected, draw an quick sketch of the shapes the object appears to have. Feel or points, 90-degree angles, rounded curves, pivots, spirals, hollowed areas, flat planes, cones, etc.*


You may want to do the above process once a day for a few days to get an idea for what feels right for this object before actually committing to deciding what it is.*

Make your Anchor List*

Once you have a data set that feels pretty solid, look at the attributes you've listed and pick out the ones that really feel like they're correct. Throw the rest out. This is the most important step, your Anchor List is what I am most interested in people posting.*
Finally, look at your list and make a guess as to what it is. This step is not so important. The object may be a pair of black wire cutters with red rubber handles.*

If your Anchor List is

"red",
"black",
"hard",
"soft",

then you're 100% on the money and so your intuitive skills are well developed. You may not be able to make the connection to "wire cutters" from your Anchor List but that's not so important because anything that increases a person's intuitive sense is useful.*

Finally, look at your list and make a guess as to what it is. This step is not so important. The object may be a pair of black wire cutters with red rubber handles.*

If your Anchor List is "red", "black", "hard", "soft", then you're 100% on the money and so your intuitive skills are well developed. You may not be able to make the connection to "wire cutters" from your Anchor List but that's not so important because anything that increases a person's intuitive sense is useful.*

The real value of this experiment is to gradually develop your intuitive skills, so it's much more important to get good at making an Anchor List than it is to guess the actual object. For instance you may be better at detecting texture than color, but you wouldn't discover that about yourself if you only guess that it's a shoe or something since shoes come in many colors and textures.*

1b (0)
Suggested Method For Detecting While Out Of Body*

Once you're out of body and have enough coherence that you are aware you're out of body and that you know your physical body is in bed, you can either collect attributes using the method given above in the "Suggested Method For Intuiting" section or you can do the following:*

Give the intention to teleport to the box containing the object.

When you teleport your surroundings should quickly dissolve and new surroundings take their place. It's more a feeling that the world has shifted than that you have shifted.*


Begin stating out loud to yourself everything that you're doing in order to remain as objective as possible. Deliberately talking at each step tends to slow you down a bit and keep things focused.*


Open the box and look at the attributes of what you see in the box.

Do you see red?
Blue?
Does it feel hard?
Sticky?
How does it smell?*

As soon as you've gotten 5 or so solid attributes, end the OBE while you're fresh. Don't try to get greedy and get more stuff than you can remember, 7 attributes is the max. Get up and write down or post exactly what you did and what you saw.*

Good luck!

I found this in

"Remote Viewing Experiment/Contest 35

Opened 19-Feb-2008

Important*

In one experiment the object was a metal bookend. I found it interesting but somewhat disappointing that several people posted (with a high degree of confidence in some cases) that it was dice. If they had instead said that it's:

smooth,
hard, and has
90-degree angles

they would have been 100% correct instead of 0% incorrect.*

So,

post the object's attributes, not what it actually is.*

35th was a real contest so the host rigged the thread so folk couldn't read other guesses unless they wanted too. He wrote:

Good luck!*

Note: I've set it up so by default the replies to this thread are hidden while people are still entering their guesses on what the object is. If you want to see the replies, click the 'view replies' link below.

Dreamviewers

the target for the second dream experiment was a metal booked.

There were 48 posts and about 17 participants.

I have made a list of all the participants of the 35 dream rv experiments. Then I numbered them (as a code) in the order that they appeared from 2/July/05 to 16/Feb/08, that's (2 years 7 months)

Post 2
participant 7
8-July-2005 at 02:19 PM

It is something inside the box. I can see the dark empty space of the box. The thing is square with a round part. Some kinda device,*
a dice or game piece?*a game of chance*

ivory colored*
solid item*
about 3 inches tall

Post 3
participant 8
8-July-2005 at 9:19 PM

It's a toy soldier.

Post 4
participant 9
8-July-2005 at 10:19 PM

Is it a small plant? I got that guess early on and couldn't shake it.*

Post 5
participant 10
8-July-2005 at 10:30 PM

I didn't post to the first one but before I saw the answer posted, a red apple kept coming at me. That was wrong now that the answer has been posted, but I still see a red apple - which is silly because an apple is a perishable and in this heat I'm sure it wasn't his choice.

Post 6
participant 1
9-July-2005 at 1:12 AM

Great to see so many people participating in the experiment.*
I was wondering if you could describe your various ways of trying to remote view the target and submit it along with your guesses.*

Im kind of curious if you see it in OBEs, lucid dreams, etc.

Post 7
participant 11
9-July-2005 at 6:13 AM

I did as I usually do when going inside myself. I close my eyes in a quiet spot and "flip inside". I visualized the box, looking at it from all aspects. It appeared to be equal on all sides but this might have been because I have been dealing with boxes like that lately.*

My immediate flash was of yellow. And though I tried to refocus and try from another angle, yellow is what I was getting,..though maybe cream might be a better word. And the shape seemed like a comma, which seemed odd to me. Thinking about it I want to say like a banana but like the apple idea...not logical.*

And really ...no not a banana... big on one end..kind of rounded and fat... narrowing on the other. Perhaps even flat on the side it is resting on.*

OK, I cannot think what this would be in real life so, I assume I am a dismal failure at this.*

I do have precognitive dreams, had one of the London terror attack...was very disturbing.*

Post 8
participant 4
9-July-2005 at 10:10 AM

(0) - Host ,*
This time open the box - we can't remote view something if it's hidden where we can't see it.

I also think many of us were thrown off last time because of the shelves and books in the room.*

this is a good way to practise tho.

Post 9
Participant 10
9-July-05

I summarized my answer because I thought my post would become long-winded but here goes...*

I can't really explain how I came about my answer. Usually I stop, blank everything out of my head, then go with the first thing that pops into my mind; if I change it, then the answer most times is wrong. It's kind of like turning off the tv then turning it back on and seeing the first thing that pops on the screen.*

In this contest I'm sure I'm not right - and that's not being pessimistic, it's being truthful. I believe everyone has esp to some degree and that some are stronger in one area and others are stronger in other areas. Tele-anything is not my strongpoint. I'm strong with precognitive dreams and have had a couple of day ones that came true, also have been pretty good with auras; however, I believe that you are meant to be strong only in one to a few areas no matter how much you want to be stronger in other areas.*

Those other areas may peek through you every once-in-a-while, but they are not meant for you to master.*

I'm not trying to be negative or say that somebody can't do something - there may well be quite a few people out there who have mastered more than a few areas or have at least some kind of limited success in them. What I stated was just meant in general and I think I'm part of that general populance...I can't be any stronger in any other area.*

Doesn't stop me from enjoying trying though**

Oh, and this is a fun contest too!

Post 10
0 (Host) quotes and answers participant 4

Host ,*
This time open the box - we can't remote view something if it's hidden where we can't see it.

Host replies

It shouldn't really matter if it's in a box, after all it's inside a building and you don't need to imagine entering the building first in order to get to the box. It might be better to forget about the box and just draw from the idea of 'Saltcube Remote Viewing Experiment 2'

post 11
Host
9-July-05

It's great to be getting a lot of attention in this experiment! A few things:*

It's ok to post several times. If you RV it a few times over the course of the week go ahead and post what you get each time.*

Some people have posted what they think it is without saying what attributes they think the object has. This sort of defeats the purpose of the experiment which is to gradually develop your intuitive skills. You may be better at detecting texture than color, but you wouldn't discover that about yourself if you only guess that it's a shoe or something since shoes come in many colors and textures.*

Post the object's attributes, don't worry so much about what it is!

Post 12
Participant 10

(Host) That This makes alot of sense - had to hit myself in the head with a brick to finally catch it. Since I keep seeing an apple, I'll refine my guess to something red, smooth, and round (could be a ball, right?)*

Post 13
Participant 1

Like most of you already know it a bit hard to focus on numbers and letters in altered states and therefore the title 'Saltcube Remote Viewing Experiment 2' is difficult to use as a target.*
It might be an idea if you Matt could take a picture of the cardboard box and post it on saltcube. This would make it an ideal target for people that rely on visualing stuff.*

Of course you should do it in a way so the picture only reveals the box itself and nothing else.*

Furthermore to make the box unique you could draw a simple and distinct symbol and stick it to the box.*

For those of us that use altered states as a mean of RV it would become a great help since we would be able to detect whenever an experience is related to the experiment by looking for the cardboard box with the unique symbol.[/b]

More later dear Reader.

EricinLA

I'm bringing across from saltcube, the host's remarkable dream experiments. the names have been changed (to numbers) to protect the innocent. But I am sure the blow by blow accounts will interest you and others.

here is the link:

http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/...ic.jsp?t=70999

saltcube is no longer open and hardly anyone posts any more so it is not worth going there if you don't already have an account.

but if anyone reading this has an account at saltcube here is a thread where I am collecting all 35 of saltcub's owner's dream experiments.

After I collect his 35 I will collect together, in one thread, "Eye's" 48.