Stupid Special K....

[panta-rei]

Okay, So two days ago, I found out that my daily Special K has Vitamin B6 in it. So, I tried eating it before I went to sleep. Thinking "Sweet, now I can control when I have Lucids." But, I didn't have any dreams that I remembered! My sister woke me up 3 times that night, so I blamed it on her. So last night I tried it again, I woke up like 5 times, and only remembered one dream! Does Special K have something in it that stops you from dreaming?

[Mes Tarrant]

I highly, highly doubt that. Btw, why don't you get B6 in supplement form? You'll get a heck of a lot more of it that way. The amount of B6 in food is very small. I love Special K

[GestaltAlteration]

How many mg of B6 are we talking here? According to wiki there are no reports of adverse effects 200mg and below. I would suggest taking like 100mg (or whatever works for you). I have my doubts that you're going to get much of any dream-changing effects from Special K... you're probably just in a dry spell.

[BillyBob]

Wikipedia says that it has contains: Spoiler for Wikipedia quote: Rice, wheat gluten, sugar, defatted wheat germ, salt, high fructose corn syrup, dried whey, malt flavoring, calcium caseinate, ascorbic acid (vitamin C), alpha tocopherol acetate (vitamin E), reduced iron, niacinamide, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin (vitamin B2), thiamin hydrochloride (vitamin B1), vitamin A palmitate, folic acid, and vitamin B12. Basically Special K is just rice, sugar, wheat, flavorings, and vitamins. I can't see why any of those ingredients would have any effect at all on dreams. Maybe the sugar, but that should have metabolized pretty quickly. There is probably something else that caused you to not recall your dreams on the second night (you already know the reason for the first night's bad recall), or it could just be that you've been in the wrong mood for recalling dreams. Look back at last night and think about other things that you did differently (besides eating this cereal). Could any of those have effected your recall? Either way, I wouldn't worry about it, it was probably just a random occurance. As for using B6 to increase dream realism -- you really aren't going to get any "substantial" effects at doses under about 100-200 mg. The only real way to get such huge doses is through pills.

[panta-rei]

I highly, highly doubt that. Btw, why don't you get B6 in supplement form? You'll get a heck of a lot more of it that way. The amount of B6 in food is very small. I love Special K Even though my mother LD's naturally like I do, she thinks furthering my experience is a waist of time. If I were to buy it myself, she would probably throw it out, since she knows about B6 and dreams. Its so good! How many mg of B6 are we talking here? Whatever is 35% of your daily intake. Look back at last night and think about other things that you did differently (besides eating this cereal). Could any of those have effected your recall? Either way, I wouldn't worry about it, it was probably just a random occurance. Your right, It was probably something else.

[Mes Tarrant]

Um, then hide the bottle. It's tiny.

[panta-rei]

Hmmmm.... Maybe. I'll look around for it next weekend, I'm busy this week and next week.

[GestaltAlteration]

Whatever is 35% of your daily intake. That's like 35% of 1.5 mg or something... Get a suppliment.

[panta-rei]

That's like 35% of 1.5 mg or something... Get a suppliment. WOW, that little? Really?

[GestaltAlteration]

WOW, that little? Really? I assume so: The United States RDA is 1.3 mg both for men and for women of any age, 1.9 mg for women who are pregnant, and 2.0 mg for women who are lactating. Dietary sources of vitamin B6 include both animal and vegetable foods. Green and leafy vegetables, meats, fish, poultry, shellfish, legumes, fruits, and whole grains are particularly good sources. (According to Understanding Nutrition Eighth edition - Instructor's edition, p 306, ISBN 0-534-54612-9).

[panta-rei]

Okay then, thanks.

[Phydeaux_3]

I have a box of this stuff in the house, perhaps having a wee bit of non-sugary chocolate with the K will help some? It's worth a shot.

[panta-rei]

I eat the protein plus kind.

[Identity X]

I almost thought this thread was about ketamine. Heh.

[Abra]

Me too, until I saw the author (I think batman's drug free). I have a nice multivitamin that includes some 80 mg of B6. Perhaps you can get away with taking a multivitamin instead of a B6 supplement. You can give your mom the following argument: "But mom! We eat so many empty calories per day, it only makes sense to take a multivitamin at dinner!"

[thisismylogin]

Even though my mother LD's naturally like I do, she thinks furthering my experience is a waist of time. If I were to buy it myself, she would probably throw it out, since she knows about B6 and dreams. You know you could put it in to a different bottle... or even buy a multi vitamin with it in... I have a mother who thinks this kind of stuff is the devils work... needless to say i have a lock box... i hide my devils goodies in there.

[panta-rei]

I almost thought this thread was about ketamine. Heh. You know, I probably should have thought about that before I posted this. Me too, until I saw the author (I think batman's drug free). I have a nice multivitamin that includes some 80 mg of B6. Perhaps you can get away with taking a multivitamin instead of a B6 supplement. You can give your mom the following argument: "But mom! We eat so many empty calories per day, it only makes sense to take a multivitamin at dinner!" What would make you think I was drug free? And I should have thought of that before I bought some 100mg B6 pills. You know you could put it in to a different bottle... or even buy a multi vitamin with it in... I have a mother who thinks this kind of stuff is the devils work... needless to say i have a lock box... i hide my devils goodies in there. I've no idea where i'm gonna hide them. But if I put them in a different bottle, what would stop my family from taking my pills?

[thisismylogin]

[QUOTE I've no idea where i'm gonna hide them. But if I put them in a different bottle, what would stop my family from taking my pills?[/QUOTE] It would if they were in a bottle lable laxitves!

[panta-rei]

Your wit is astounding! But we don't have laxatives at our house.

[thisismylogin]

Damn... just be creative you'll find something!

[panta-rei]

Or, you know, I could just hide it. Oh! I forgot to tell you, After 3 days and only one dream overall, I stopped eating Special K, and last night I had 2 dreams that i remembered! Special K was stopping me from remembering them!

[thisismylogin]

Thats crazy... I wonder if it has some perservitive in it that makes your dream recall bad.

[GestaltAlteration]

Probably coincidence.

[Siиdяed]

I'm hoping you had Special K with red berries. You did, right? Don't deny the freeze-dried goodness.

[panta-rei]

Nope, Protein Plus. And hell, I was woken up like 3 times last night and only got about 2 and a half hours of sleep and i still remembered one dream. No special K that night either.