How long does it usually take?

**Kaizer** · 09-24-2010 12:06 AM

I've done several WILD attempts recently. I always manage to reach SP and the hypnagogic hallucinations, but when a dream starts to form, it only lasts about 5 seconds before it disappears. This goes on for a while, 30 minutes at least. How long does it take, usually, to transition from hypnagogia to an actual dream? Or am I doing something wrong?

**brettWp** · 09-24-2010 03:44 AM

When this happens you need to try to sit up or roll into the dream world. If I just lay there I fall asleep or it goes away. You need to try and transition yourself.

**Puffin** · 09-24-2010 04:12 AM

Transitioning is really just about continuing to relax as you get deeper and deeper into SP. Visualizing, imagining tacile and audio sensations, and other dream senses helps to reduce the transition time. Try molding the HI you're getting into a dream scene. My WILDs took a few minutes once I got strong SP to transition, but I haven't been able to do that for some time now. [Epic year long WILD dryspell]

**breakerx4d** · 09-25-2010 09:27 AM

Well i just typed a really long useful response to this, hit the + Reply to Thread button and it all disappeared. LOL so fail

basically:
SP isn't a long process. It is something that happens when all the conditions are conducive. So you're not in sleep paralysis probably, its an unmistakable phenomena that feels pretty uncomfortable. The onset only lasts like 10 seconds, you feel like you're swooshing in a different dimension. Main thing is to stay aware and mindful as your mind and body full relax.

ugh, sorry I had a better response but im going back to bed to WILD now.... good luck, you can and will do it