Thread: How to have an Instant WILD

Originally Posted by Kunal19

bro are you saying that you tried to separate just after waking and without using those indirect techniques.......?
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guys if you have noticed
the author says to try to separate first and than use tehniques...but there is one problem suppose if i try to roll out and if i moved physically.........wont it spoil our chance to have obe/ld......?
there should be a movement free exit tec......

If you watch closely you will see that he says "with the indirect techniques if you move some after waking up you should immediately begin technique" I don't think moving completely ruins it, I just think that if you move like I did you are taking a chance that you will not be able to get into the phase. I got lucky I guess, and the reason I started this technique was because for the past 2 years I have been able to continue sleeping almost indefinitely and slip in and out of conciousness immediately after waking from a full nights sleep, and I always remembered dreams during this time. When I saw these techniques I thought to myself that during that time I must be very very close to the phase and using these techniques I was able to take full control of the phase.

There was a time when I was very depressed, and I would lay in bed for 3 or more hours after I woke up and eventually I started falling back asleep for 15-20 minute periods and waking with very cloudy memories and feelings from dreams, I was so depressed that I figured I was just thinking too hard about things and I should try to go back to sleep. I know of one occasion when I did this for almost 7 hours before getting my sorry ass out of bed.

Originally Posted by Vertebrate

If you watch closely you will see that he says "with the indirect techniques if you move some after waking up you should immediately begin technique" I don't think moving completely ruins it, I just think that if you move like I did you are taking a chance that you will not be able to get into the phase. I got lucky I guess, and the reason I started this technique was because for the past 2 years I have been able to continue sleeping almost indefinitely and slip in and out of conciousness immediately after waking from a full nights sleep, and I always remembered dreams during this time. When I saw these techniques I thought to myself that during that time I must be very very close to the phase and using these techniques I was able to take full control of the phase.

There was a time when I was very depressed, and I would lay in bed for 3 or more hours after I woke up and eventually I started falling back asleep for 15-20 minute periods and waking with very cloudy memories and feelings from dreams, I was so depressed that I figured I was just thinking too hard about things and I should try to go back to sleep. I know of one occasion when I did this for almost 7 hours before getting my sorry ass out of bed.

I want to ask. How much sleep did you have after waking up? Or did you use an alarm and then went to sleep and only then woke up (like he describes in his book).

Originally Posted by Purebred

I want to ask. How much sleep did you have after waking up? Or did you use an alarm and then went to sleep and only then woke up (like he describes in his book).

I went to bed at about 2:00AM and I got up at 7:30AM immediately after I did this and the whole experience lasted maybe 15 minutes. I had my alarm set for 8:00AM.