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      How to have an Instant WILD

      Hello to all forum members,

      It sounds too good to be true doesn't it to be able to have an instant WILD? Another forum member has posted a thread about how to do this but unfortunately what worked for them won't work for most people. Hence why there are so many disappointing replys. There is a method that will work for everyone and I thought I would kickstart this again with a brand new thread.

      On my third day at attempting an instant WILD I had one. Well to be completely honest it took fifteen seconds to enter a full blown lucid dream from waking awareness. Now before I tell you what I did to have an instant WILD you may be asking whilst reading it, "What on Earth is he talking about? Straining the brain, phantom wiggling, that just doesn't make any sense?" I will explain everything afterwards. By the way this is not DEILD as I have reproduced positive results in N-REM sleep using an alarm.

      I woke up and immediately applied "Phantom Wiggling" on my left arm for five seconds and my dream-arm was moving freely. I could at this point have had an OBE but I wanted a lucid dream. After five seconds of "Phantom Wiggling" I switched to five seconds of "Listening In". After about two seconds of listening in to the high pitched natural sound inside my head it started to increase in volume. After five seconds I still hadn't entered a dream so I switched to five seconds of "Observing Images". I didn't see anything so I switched to "Straining the Brain". Immediately the high pitched sound in my head became very loud so I immediately switched to "Listening In" again. I saw a purple pool of water and thought the clarity of that is very clear and then I found myself fully immersed in a lucid dream. I was in a deep, beautiful valley with lambs frolicking about. I looked around and marvelled at the ability to be able to have a lucid dream in a matter of seconds. I enjoyed my lucid dream...

      What is the process of what I described above? I'm going to give you a phenomenal statistic. 75% of people have an instantaneous lucid dream or an OBE within one week of using the method that I have described above. If you were to follow exactly what I did above you might not succeed. To be able to have an instant WILD then you must read this FREE 227 page downloadable e-book called, 'School of Out of Body Travel - A Practical Guidebook' by Michael Raduga.

      Michael Raduga has been teaching this method in seminars in Russia for many years and he will tell you exactly what to do to have instant WILD's with his 227 page manual. FREE download of the book is available from his website.

      This book is nothing short of phenomenal.

      Enjoy...
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      Guys guys guys... this is getting out of its way.

      Let's not start a fight or I will need to start to deliver infractions.

      - First of all. The user mcwillis joined on January 2010... if he would be a spammer, he would have just joined.
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      - There is a lot of literature out there, it is true that 220 pages is a lot for just one technique, however, the technique is in there and I am sure the other pages are worth its reading for some reason. I have not had the chance of reading it yet, but I am sure it will not be a waste.
      - Maybe I am wrong and the material is not good (I have not checked it) If this ends up being some sort of scam, mcwillis will be punished to the full extend of our forum rules, but it is unlikely that after 11 months of being a member of our community, he will blow up his membership.
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      Quote Originally Posted by PercyLucid View Post
      Guys guys guys... this is getting out of its way.

      Let's not start a fight or I will need to start to deliver infractions.

      - First of all. The user mcwillis joined on January 2010... if he would be a spammer, he would have just joined.
      - The material he is advertising is free, so there is no profit for him or the author of the book through this thread.
      - There is a lot of literature out there, it is true that 220 pages is a lot for just one technique, however, the technique is in there and I am sure the other pages are worth its reading for some reason. I have not had the chance of reading it yet, but I am sure it will not be a waste.
      - Maybe I am wrong and the material is not good (I have not checked it) If this ends up being some sort of scan, mcwillis will be punished to the full extend of our forum rules, but it is unlikely that after 11 months of being a member of our community, he will blow up his membership.
      - I do not want to hear more complains about this, please. Discuss about the book itself. If you do not want to read it, move on to the next thread, but I want to remind that flaming leads to a severe punishment, so stop it.

      Thanks for reading. If the material is worth it might be a nice tool for us all, so lets enjoy it.
      Thank you PercyLucid,

      At last someone who wants to have a serious discussion about this method. I guarantee you if you read the whole book you will be impressed. I consider it nothing short of phenomenal in my twenty one years of being an active student of lucid dreaming. I bought my first DILD book twenty one years ago and my passion is such that I will be reading books on the subject for a long time to come.

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      There is a lot of literature out there which is great to add to knowledge.

      To be honest, it sounds too good to be true. I am very experienced in this topic and the only fast methods are DEILD which requires mantras and hard work, and my own made method L-DEILD which is very close to what you posted, but requires to be completed from a lucid dreaming.

      It is very hard to believe, but the humans mind power is enormous, so it might be possible. Actually, I say it is possible, but I am sure it will require several days or weeks for most to master.

      I will sure take a read to the juiciest parts, but I am working solely on Astral Projection right now, so I will not read it entirely... it is a long book.
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      Quote Originally Posted by PercyLucid View Post
      To be honest, it sounds too good to be true. I am very experienced in this topic and the only fast methods are DEILD which requires mantras and hard work, and my own made method L-DEILD which is very close to what you posted, but requires to be completed from a lucid dreaming.

      It is very hard to believe, but the humans mind power is enormous, so it might be possible.
      As I said in the start of this thread Mr. Raduga's statistics from his seminars are that in their first week 75% of students have a WILD or an OBE within a minute of waking up from sleep. I have personally reproduced this through my own practice.

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      I have skimmed over this book, all the things he talks about are basically different forms of DEILD's. Nothing special here.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      As I said in the start of this thread Mr. Raduga's statistics from his seminars are that in their first week 75% of students have a WILD or an OBE within a minute of waking up from sleep. I have personally reproduced this through my own practice.
      That makes a huge difference.

      Quote Originally Posted by PercyLucid View Post
      There is a lot of literature out there which is great to add to knowledge.

      To be honest, it sounds too good to be true. I am very experienced in this topic and the only fast methods are DEILD which requires mantras and hard work, and my own made method L-DEILD which is very close to what you posted, but requires to be completed from a lucid dreaming.
      So, I was right then.

      Quote Originally Posted by rynkrt3 View Post
      I have skimmed over this book, all the things he talks about are basically different forms of DEILD's. Nothing special here.
      Yes. That is what I though from the very beginning. I will stick to my L-DEILD technique then. However, for some people it might be worth to take a look over the book. All free and authentic LD material is welcomed.
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      Quote Originally Posted by rynkrt3 View Post
      I have skimmed over this book, all the things he talks about are basically different forms of DEILD's. Nothing special here.
      This method has nothing to do with DREAM EXIT as I have had good results during N-REM sleep using an alarm. Read the book!
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      This sounds very interesting. I'm not a very skilled lucid dreamer, nor a well-read one, but "phantom wiggling" sounds like something I have tried a bunch of times. Is it about tuning out the stimuli coming from your actual limbs and imagining your arms and legs to be a in different position? Or perhaps imagining you have an extra apendage, like a tail? Aaanyway, I'm intrigued and I'll be sure to check the book out later - when I'm not as sleepy as I am right now

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      Quote Originally Posted by Fitz View Post
      This sounds very interesting. I'm not a very skilled lucid dreamer, nor a well-read one, but "phantom wiggling" sounds like something I have tried a bunch of times. Is it about tuning out the stimuli coming from your actual limbs and imagining your arms and legs to be a in different position? Or perhaps imagining you have an extra apendage, like a tail? Aaanyway, I'm intrigued and I'll be sure to check the book out later - when I'm not as sleepy as I am right now
      I will give you an example of this. I woke up from sleep due to a disturbance. I was lying on my left side so I immediately tried to wiggle my right leg as it was my uppermost leg. I expected to be able to wiggle it up and down perhaps a few inches but instead it had a range of effortless movement of about two feet. I wiggled my leg for five seconds. As I didn't enter a lucid within the stated five second period I had to move onto another PRIMARY INDIRECT TECHNIQUE to have a WILD. I chose 'Listening In' as my next indirect primary technique but as I had been in N-REM sleep in the early hours of sleep I lost consciousness and went back to sleep.
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      nice methode,

      can you give me the BEST PRIMARY technics to follow in ORDER 1st . 2nd ...??.

      can I use these techniques DIRECTLY ( in waking life )

      I want to use them for OBE not LD
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      Well I don't think you need to read the whole book... This is a short guide to the technique and in my opinion it is enough. I did my past 2 lucid dreams with this technique even I didn't knew about it at the time (I found out on myself to"listen in" after waking up when I tried DEILD) The easiest way for achieving lucid dreaming or out-of-body experience | Out-of-Body Experience (OBE)

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      Can someone tell me how to wake up without moving ???

      actually I woke up after moving and moving after waking up !!
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      Marwanin, i know its not my place to say this, but you should make a thread on this instead of hijaking this thread.
      However to answer your question, you have to learn to calmly fall asleep and wake up calmly. If you can have a relaxing night rest like 10 hrs, then you should be able to wake up rested, relaxed, and not moving out of sleep.

      You have to almost hold your body in place.
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      Ok i understand..
      i will give it a shot.

      i just dont understand why you cant move after wake up, even to turn of your alarm, if it is not a DEILD.

      You really cant move?

      You open the door, and throw away the keys. Someone is my head, but its not me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by marwanin View Post
      nice methode,

      can you give me the BEST PRIMARY technics to follow in ORDER 1st . 2nd ...??.

      can I use these techniques DIRECTLY ( in waking life )

      I want to use them for OBE not LD
      The best indirect primary techniques for you individually can only be found out by you through practcing them after having read how to use them from the book. You can boost your repertoire of techniques by adding secondary indirect techniques. Indirect techniques are to be practiced immediately upon waking.

      Direct techniques are the same as indirect techniques but vastly different in how they are performed and can be used at any time thus meaning that this is not a DEILD method. Mr. Raduga states emphatically one must have a certain level of skill and experise at practicing indirect techniques before proceeding to direct techniques. His research has shown that ignoring this will be detrimental to your success.

      You need the book!
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      Quote Originally Posted by marwanin View Post
      Can someone tell me how to wake up without moving ???

      actually I woke up after moving and moving after waking up !!
      This is all in the book. Sleep researchers have found that often we wake up thinking about whatever we were thinking about before going to sleep. Initially I thought it wold be next to impossible to wake up without immediately moving. I would repeat gently before going to sleep that as soon as I wake I will remain completely motionless and practice the method. Within a few days I was startled to find I would wake up and remain perfectly still allowing me to use the primary indirect techniques.

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      Quote Originally Posted by lschievenin View Post
      Ok i understand..
      i will give it a shot.

      i just dont understand why you cant move after wake up, even to turn of your alarm, if it is not a DEILD.

      You really cant move?
      Ok lets say you are good at using another WILD method and you know from experience that you always enter sleep paralysis say between 30 and 45 minutes after making the decision to keep your body perfectly still. Now when you get to 25 minutes and you moved your body you will have wrecked your chance of entering sleep paralysis 5 minutes later and you would have to start all over again. It's the same kind of principle.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ClearView View Post
      Marwanin, i know its not my place to say this, but you should make a thread on this instead of hijaking this thread.
      Its a good question. Again it's all in the book.

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      Quote Originally Posted by rynkrt3 View Post
      I have skimmed over this book, all the things he talks about are basically different forms of DEILD's. Nothing special here.
      I see you didn't skim over the section on Direct Techniques that can be performed at any time of the day without having to practice them after waking from sleep. One never learns from skimming, only reading.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Katsuno View Post
      Well I don't think you need to read the whole book... This is a short guide to the technique and in my opinion it is enough. I did my past 2 lucid dreams with this technique even I didn't knew about it at the time (I found out on myself to"listen in" after waking up when I tried DEILD) The easiest way for achieving lucid dreaming or out-of-body experience | Out-of-Body Experience (OBE)
      Yes but you would make a lot of mistakes and have very limited success. Remember the author has been teaching this publicly for a long time and his experience has shown him that if you don't follow his instructions you will most likely fail. I have had to re-read the book several times as I made a lot of mistakes after reading it the first time.

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      This sounds like a cool idea. I will have to read the book more carefully, tonight. My initial worry is that the dream will be short and unstable, like most DEILDs. I'm assuming the book addresses this. I'll check out the section on direct techniques that you mentioned.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      This sounds like a cool idea. I will have to read the book more carefully, tonight. My initial worry is that the dream will be short and unstable, like most DEILDs. I'm assuming the book addresses this. I'll check out the section on direct techniques that you mentioned.
      The chapters on deepening and maintaining are most comprehensive.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      I see you didn't skim over the section on Direct Techniques that can be performed at any time of the day without having to practice them after waking from sleep. One never learns from skimming, only reading.
      Actually, I dare you to try these techniques during the day... There will be no instant Wild's EVER unless your close to passing out...

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      Quote Originally Posted by rynkrt3 View Post
      Actually, I dare you to try these techniques during the day... There will be no instant Wild's EVER unless your close to passing out...
      If you perform Indirect Techniques you can have instant WILD's like I did. Where have I said that if you use the Direct Techniques during the day that you will have an instant WILD? As you incorrectly posted that the method of Indirect Techniques is a DEILD I replied to marwanin's post that the same techniques can be applied at any time of the day, the important difference being how to apply them. This proves that this isn't a DEILD method. From your post it is clear that you still haven't read the book.

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