Guys guys guys... this is getting out of its way. |
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Hello to all forum members, |
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Last edited by mcwillis; 11-15-2010 at 01:29 AM.
Guys guys guys... this is getting out of its way. |
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Thank you PercyLucid, |
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There is a lot of literature out there which is great to add to knowledge. |
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I have skimmed over this book, all the things he talks about are basically different forms of DEILD's. Nothing special here. |
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That makes a huge difference. |
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This sounds very interesting. I'm not a very skilled lucid dreamer, nor a well-read one, but "phantom wiggling" sounds like something I have tried a bunch of times. Is it about tuning out the stimuli coming from your actual limbs and imagining your arms and legs to be a in different position? Or perhaps imagining you have an extra apendage, like a tail? Aaanyway, I'm intrigued and I'll be sure to check the book out later - when I'm not as sleepy as I am right now |
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I will give you an example of this. I woke up from sleep due to a disturbance. I was lying on my left side so I immediately tried to wiggle my right leg as it was my uppermost leg. I expected to be able to wiggle it up and down perhaps a few inches but instead it had a range of effortless movement of about two feet. I wiggled my leg for five seconds. As I didn't enter a lucid within the stated five second period I had to move onto another PRIMARY INDIRECT TECHNIQUE to have a WILD. I chose 'Listening In' as my next indirect primary technique but as I had been in N-REM sleep in the early hours of sleep I lost consciousness and went back to sleep. |
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nice methode, |
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Well I don't think you need to read the whole book... This is a short guide to the technique and in my opinion it is enough. I did my past 2 lucid dreams with this technique even I didn't knew about it at the time (I found out on myself to"listen in" after waking up when I tried DEILD) The easiest way for achieving lucid dreaming or out-of-body experience | Out-of-Body Experience (OBE) |
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Can someone tell me how to wake up without moving ??? |
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Marwanin, i know its not my place to say this, but you should make a thread on this instead of hijaking this thread. |
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Ok i understand.. |
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You open the door, and throw away the keys. Someone is my head, but its not me.
The Lunatic is on the grass.
The best indirect primary techniques for you individually can only be found out by you through practcing them after having read how to use them from the book. You can boost your repertoire of techniques by adding secondary indirect techniques. Indirect techniques are to be practiced immediately upon waking. |
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Last edited by mcwillis; 11-16-2010 at 12:06 AM.
This is all in the book. Sleep researchers have found that often we wake up thinking about whatever we were thinking about before going to sleep. Initially I thought it wold be next to impossible to wake up without immediately moving. I would repeat gently before going to sleep that as soon as I wake I will remain completely motionless and practice the method. Within a few days I was startled to find I would wake up and remain perfectly still allowing me to use the primary indirect techniques. |
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Ok lets say you are good at using another WILD method and you know from experience that you always enter sleep paralysis say between 30 and 45 minutes after making the decision to keep your body perfectly still. Now when you get to 25 minutes and you moved your body you will have wrecked your chance of entering sleep paralysis 5 minutes later and you would have to start all over again. It's the same kind of principle. |
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Yes but you would make a lot of mistakes and have very limited success. Remember the author has been teaching this publicly for a long time and his experience has shown him that if you don't follow his instructions you will most likely fail. I have had to re-read the book several times as I made a lot of mistakes after reading it the first time. |
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This sounds like a cool idea. I will have to read the book more carefully, tonight. My initial worry is that the dream will be short and unstable, like most DEILDs. I'm assuming the book addresses this. I'll check out the section on direct techniques that you mentioned. |
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If you perform Indirect Techniques you can have instant WILD's like I did. Where have I said that if you use the Direct Techniques during the day that you will have an instant WILD? As you incorrectly posted that the method of Indirect Techniques is a DEILD I replied to marwanin's post that the same techniques can be applied at any time of the day, the important difference being how to apply them. This proves that this isn't a DEILD method. From your post it is clear that you still haven't read the book. |
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