Thread: How do I get past SP?

The increased heart rate is actually a hallucination. Just try to ignore it and it will soon pass. Your heart rate actually slows down during this time. Just stay calm and act as if nothing unusual is happening. SP will takes some time to get used to. Just keep practicing and building up experience. Good luck to you and if you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask!

Are you sure? It seems very real & wakes me right up..I've tried to keep going, but it wakes me up so I can't continue..I don't see how I could just ignore it..
& If it's just a hallucination why does the same one happen every night?

It's really a hallucination bro.
It happens to me 90% of the times too.


I have problem going through SP too, I never get excited anymore because I've been there so many times.
But I guess you should just try to relax and swallow whenever you want to.

Easiest way IMO is just trying to sleep during SP. (But still in a concious way)

If it wakes me up should I give up or is it worth sticking around & trying again?

I have the same problem, but it really isn't a hallucination for me. The first couple of times it happened, I actually put my hand to my chest and could feel my heart rate racing. Also makes me feel flustered.

To both of you, it is definitely a hallucination. It is a very common hallucination and if you simply don't think about it while it is going on, it will pass. Joel, the reason your heart was beating fast once you woke up, is because while you had the hallucination, you got freaked out or overly emotional and your actually heart rate picked up. This is what causes you to lose the paralysis. Initially, it is completely fake....keep that in mind.

Once you go into sleep paralysis, your heart rate is much slower than normal. It is scientific fact when sleeping your heart rate actually slows down. SP comes as you are falling asleep.

@benTENDO - Of course it seems real . A lot of the hallucinations seem very real. Just like the dream state can seem very real. It only wakes you up because you allow it to. Next time it happens just pretend that it isn't happening. Act like nothing unusual is going on and ignore it. Think about it, you are laying there completely normal and then all of the sudden your heart rate starts pounding in your chest for no reason? That isn't how the human body works .

OK. How long after this stage will it take to get into a LD or is this part of the transition?
Should I try using the increased heart rate & convince myself that it is thumping me into the dream or something?
& thanks for all of your help

Well, this is definitely SP or the on-set of SP. The transition is where the dream scene begins to take form. So, you will generally experienced full fledged visual hallucinations during the transition. It really varies on how long it will take. Once SP sets in, all you need to do is finish falling asleep. Just relax and try to fall asleep. As long as the heart rate doesn't bother you, you can casually observe it like you said. Act as if it is beating you to lucidity. Just make sure you aren't keeping your mind too active. Passively observe and hallucinations that you get and just finish falling asleep. No problem at all...I am always glad to help out ! Good luck to you!

So basically i have no problem going into SP when taking a nap..ill lay there on my side not thinking of anything and start to get crazy vibrations all around my body and head and a weird buzzing noise. i stay relaxed and calm and in a few seconds i see the hallucinations like me walking looking down at a street or something. multiple times when i see this i think im in my dream and try to walk forward or look at my hands and i just wake up. this happens to me every time i go into SP. what should i do?? thankss

Once you get these type of hallucinations, don't do anything. Just continue to relax and don't get ahead of yourself. You are so close its crazy. Just continue to fall into a deeper and deeper state of relaxation and observe these hallucinations. Let the process do the work for you and just wait for the dream to start. Most of the time at the start of the dream, you will be in the same place you fell asleep. Even if you aren't you will most likely be laying down somewhere at the beginning. There have only been a few times where I wasn't laying down at the beginning of a WILD. Either way, you have to just wait until the transition is over and everything is settled around you.

Thanks Yoshi ill give this a try tomorrow...seems im just getting excited, rushing it and getting ahead of myself causing me to wake up

The heart racing is not a hallucination. I doubt he's even in sleep paralysis

No problem at all. It is easy to get too excited. Just relax and wait it out. A steady dream scene will form around you on its own...you really don't have to do much at all except keep consciousness and fall asleep. Let the process do the rest of the work for you. Good luck to you!

@Jay - The heart racing is a super common hallucination during SP. I have had it happen loads of times .

YOSHI just five minutes ago i took a nap and i was in a normal dream..but as the dream ended i went into SP and the whole time i remembered what you said to just look at the hallucinations but just relax and let them go away. so i did and i woke up in my dorm room but it didn't look the same so i did a RC and looked at my hands but they were weird and webbed kinda so i became lucid and started flying n stuff..thanks for the advice bud!!! one more thing though..i tried to close my eyes and spin so my dream would change but it stayed the same =(

Originally Posted by KingYoshi

@Jay - The heart racing is a super common hallucination during SP. I have had it happen loads of times .

It seems my reply from before went away (mysteriously) so I'll say my opinion again:

the heart racing is not a hallucination. It's real I do believe

Originally Posted by Jay12341235

It seems my reply from before went away (mysteriously) so I'll say my opinion again:

the heart racing is not a hallucination. It's real I do believe

I can confirm it's a hallucination. I was in SP and was experiencing a super fast heart beat. I kicked myself out of SP and instantly put my hand on my chest to check my heartbeat, and it was normal.

there are two primaries:

knowing the opportunity of experiencing unfamiliar consciousness
wanting the exploration because you realize the positive value in doing so

the experience of fear can be tremendous while entering an unfamiliar ground that beholds the unknown.
though it will only be present if you are dishonest to truly acknowledging the two primaries and holding it as a torch which will produce light in the darkness and allow you to move through and enter that.

good luck

Originally Posted by willeex

It's really a hallucination bro.
It happens to me 90% of the times too.


I have problem going through SP too, I never get excited anymore because I've been there so many times.
But I guess you should just try to relax and swallow whenever you want to.

Easiest way IMO is just trying to sleep during SP. (But still in a concious way)

Will attempting to sleep during SP bring you into the LD state? Or do you have to do something special to transfer into that LD state? I am experiencing very lucid and prolonged SP but am unsuccessful thus far at turning it into lucid dream, with the exception of the out of body experience I had last week in which I came up and out of my body and turned and looked back at myself sleeping and paralyzed.

Originally Posted by KingYoshi

No problem at all. It is easy to get too excited. Just relax and wait it out. A steady dream scene will form around you on its own...you really don't have to do much at all except keep consciousness and fall asleep. Let the process do the rest of the work for you. Good luck to you!

OMG I think I am starting to get it. Yoshi you make a lot of sense. I think today when I tried to enter dream state and when I saw the crazy ceiling I was entering a LD and inadvertently pulled myself out of it! ARGH!!!! I am so mad at myself. I guess all this time I was thinking I was entering SP as I was awaking not as I was falling asleep!!! So if I understand you correctly, when the SP comes on and I am deep in the thick of it, try my hardest to ignore the hallucinations and allow my brain to fully enter dream state. Does SP always parlee into LD? Or is it possible I will just go from SP into the oblivion of no dream? I think the biggest problem I have is the auditory hallucinations seem so loud they seem to be keeping me from transitioning. Make sense? My brain just can't tune out those sounds, the insistent banging, the rustling of blinds, etc.

Yeah dude I had the same problems as you. I would enter sp and think the hallucinations was the dream forming so I would try to interact with them and wake my self up...u need to wait and stay calm a bit longer and the loud noise and sp vibrations will stop and a dream will form around you..but wait..still dont move in the dream just take in the detail and do a RC, stablize the dream and try rubbing your hands together n see how it feels..tell yourself..I will have a long lucid dream and stay concious ...then have some funnn hope this helps!!!

Originally Posted by Dreamzz

YOSHI just five minutes ago i took a nap and i was in a normal dream..but as the dream ended i went into SP and the whole time i remembered what you said to just look at the hallucinations but just relax and let them go away. so i did and i woke up in my dorm room but it didn't look the same so i did a RC and looked at my hands but they were weird and webbed kinda so i became lucid and started flying n stuff..thanks for the advice bud!!! one more thing though..i tried to close my eyes and spin so my dream would change but it stayed the same =(

No problem at all and congrats on your success! Yeah, I never had much luck with dream spinning to new locations either. I'm sure if you practiced it, you could get some success with it. Try to jump high into the air while you are spinning. For me, I just like to simply fly to new locations. I will fly across the landscape until I find the area I'm looking for. You could also ask DCs to take you places.

Originally Posted by Jay12341235

It seems my reply from before went away (mysteriously) so I'll say my opinion again:

the heart racing is not a hallucination. It's real I do believe

No mystery, I deleted it. A single word response is spam if it is not addressing a question. I didn't delete your opinion because I disagreed with it .

This is where I always screw up, I'll start seeing the hallucinations ans stuff but then I just fall asleep, without getting past them

Ah, I see. Once you get the hallucinations, never forget of what you are trying to accomplish. You are WILDing and striving to achieve lucidity. Always keep that thought tucked away in your mind. I like to just casually observe the hallucinations. You don't really focus on them or try to pick out details. Just relax as they come and go, and observe the hallucinations as a whole. As opposed to watching a single particular hallucination. Hope that made sense . The best way to overcome this, Danny, is to just keep practicing and getting used to it. Once you succeed a couple times, you will get a feel for that balance of focus that it takes to WILD. Too much focus, you won't be able to finish falling asleep (transition), not enough focus and you will crash out and lose consciousness.