Thread: Jeff777's Free-falling WILD technique!

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

Ah yes. I have had many moments of my lucid dreaming life (1 year? Not very long) with WILD, where I'm like YES I will do this, I just need to practice. To make a long story short, it didn't work out, I didn't really try to hard, and just gave up. I think this technique simplify s the WILD a lot, I will practice this until I get it down pat, I will become a master WILD'r

If you don't mind, I'm gonna post my little "recap" of what I think I should be doing, and if there's any faults I would greatly appreciate them to be pointed out, mainly so I don't waste time practicing a wrong technique

1. Whether in a WBTB or not, lie down and relax for a few minutes. Let your mind wander, but don't go unconscious.
2. Try to passively observe your thoughts as they become weird and illogical (dream like) Don't pay to much attention or they will fade away and you will mentally wake up some.
3. Once these thoughts start to occur, get on your back and do deep breathing until your body takes over, kinda like forcing the "Chaos" thoughts, but with breathing.
4. Once your body has taken over your breathing, and your mind is going thru weird thoughts and images. Try to remain aware until you hit SP ( I'm confused on how to remain to just aware enough without waking your mind up. For me, when I try to retain awareness, it just keeps me awake.)

Sorry for all the question. Just trying to make sure I didn't mis read the information... which I kinda do a lot.

For the most part that's about the jist of it. If I can add a few more tweaks, it'd be this:

Step 1: Freefall. What you're doing here is trying to go to sleep as fast as possible. If lying on your side is how you normally sleep, lie on your side. If lying on your back is how you sleep, then lie on your back. Lying on your back will simply keep you from having to readjust later. Remember though.. Step 2: Chaos theory, is where you move toward next UNTIL you notice the images creating by themselves. You can either create them yourself or wait for them to come in by themselves while still free-falling. The point is, for you, once I notice chaos, I would move toward step 3.

Once you start noticing illogical images and patterns (only the illogical ones signals the cue to move on!) making its way into your mind, then you’re ready to move to step three

If chaos has started already, you don't have to continue passively observing chaos. Chaos coming in on its own is just the SIGNAL'ing CUE to let you know that the neocortex and frontal lobe are shutting down the reasoning centers, ergo putting the body to sleep. So now YOUR job is to move to step 3, then step 4. Since you have trouble keeping awareness. I recommend you incorporate logic into step 5

(Remember, no more chaos for you at this point.. passively watching chaos at this stage will only cause you to fall deeper and deeper and into unconscious dreaming. CREATING chaos at this point isn't necessary either because that will cause you to slip deeper and deeper and repeat the process In your case though, it'll keep you awake. Chaos is only meant to be used as a signaling cue for beginners. For those that want to fall deeper, Creating chaos is only to be used to deepen the state.)

Step 5. Try using this..

One thing I’ve found that helps me is by mentally repeating, in between breaths, “I remain consciously aware as my body falls to sleep”. If you want to maintain logic, reasoning and awareness as your body falls to sleep, - in between breaths, mentally count down from 100 - 1. You should shift into sleep paralysis before you get to 1. If you haven't shifted yet, Count down again. The shift is unmistakable. You may feel vibrations, a wave of energy sweep over you, a lead blanket being pulled over you, or you may even notice your hearing shift from external to internal (real time hearing). All of these are indicators that you've successfully (and consciously) entered into sleep paralysis.

I think maybe where you're getting caught up on as well is when to use chaos. I wouldn't recommend trying to initiate it myself unless you're good at catching yourself before you hit the ground, and are good at passively observing your own thoughts. But remember, it's only meant to be used as a signal'ing cue in step 2 to LET you know it's time to move to step 3.


Friend, does that help?

Originally Posted by Jeff777

For the most part that's about the jist of it. If I can add a few more tweaks, it'd be this:

Step 1: Freefall. What you're doing here is trying to go to sleep as fast as possible. If lying on your side is how you normally sleep, lie on your side. If lying on your back is how you sleep, then lie on your back. Lying on your back will simply keep you from having to readjust later. Remember though.. Step 2: Chaos theory, is where you move toward next UNTIL you notice the images creating by themselves. You can either create them yourself or wait for them to come in by themselves while still free-falling. The point is, for you, once I notice chaos, I would move toward step 3.

If chaos has started already, you don't have to continue passively observing chaos. Chaos coming in on its own is just the SIGNAL'ing CUE to let you know that the neocortex and frontal lobe are shutting down the reasoning centers, ergo putting the body to sleep. So now YOUR job is to move to step 3, then step 4. Since you have trouble keeping awareness. I recommend you incorporate logic into step 5

(Remember, no more chaos for you at this point.. passively watching chaos at this stage will only cause you to fall deeper and deeper and into unconscious dreaming. CREATING chaos at this point isn't necessary either because that will cause you to slip deeper and deeper and repeat the process In your case though, it'll keep you awake. Chaos is only meant to be used as a signaling cue for beginners. For those that want to fall deeper, Creating chaos is only to be used to deepen the state.)

Step 5. Try using this..

I think maybe where you're getting caught up on as well is when to use chaos. I wouldn't recommend trying to initiate it myself unless you're good at catching yourself before you hit the ground, and are good at passively observing your own thoughts. But remember, it's only meant to be used as a signal'ing cue in step 2 to LET you know it's time to move to step 3.


Friend, does that help?

Helps a ton man, cleared up every question I had. Thank you

Alright so last night, I put my alarm across my room, and set it to 4:30 am. I put it in a place where I would have to stand up from bed, walk to where my alarm is, and turn it off. Somehow, when I woke up this morning, my cell phone (which is my alarm) was lying beside me, in my bed. So basically, I stood up, turned my alarm off, and went back to bed unconsciously, therefore I was not able to attempt your technique .

Originally Posted by AndresLD

Alright so last night, I put my alarm across my room, and set it to 4:30 am. I put it in a place where I would have to stand up from bed, walk to where my alarm is, and turn it off. Somehow, when I woke up this morning, my cell phone (which is my alarm) was lying beside me, in my bed. So basically, I stood up, turned my alarm off, and went back to bed unconsciously, therefore I was not able to attempt your technique .

Aww, haha. Happened to me on a number of occasions. Just give 'er another go.

Originally Posted by AndresLD

Alright so last night, I put my alarm across my room, and set it to 4:30 am. I put it in a place where I would have to stand up from bed, walk to where my alarm is, and turn it off. Somehow, when I woke up this morning, my cell phone (which is my alarm) was lying beside me, in my bed. So basically, I stood up, turned my alarm off, and went back to bed unconsciously, therefore I was not able to attempt your technique .

I have the same problem (3 days in a row, I hope the next will be better). Today I didn't even wake up (or I don't remember).