Need Help With WILDing

**Crow360** · 08-28-2011 08:58 PM

For the past month I have tried to WILD since I have got DILDing down, but I have hit a wall in my endeavor. When I try to WILD, I will be trying, but for some reason I keep on either wandering, or I just fall asleep. If I try to keep myself from losing consiousness, I end up being to alert and wasting 30-45 minutes of my time with nothing happening. I try this almost every day around 1pm-5pm. And the nights I am able to do WBTB I still lose consciousness. Any tips on helping me to stay conscious while trying to WILD, without me being to alert?
I have also had one instance where I had a lapse in consciousness that lasted less than 4 minutes, when I regained my consciousness I felt one of my legs was tingling, but faded shortly after. Would this have been my body going into sleep paralysis?
Thanks for any replies and sorry for any misspellings.

**austinchmiel** · 08-30-2011 12:24 AM

You should try doing mutiplacation problems in your head to keep you awake but not to awake.

**lawilahd** · 08-30-2011 12:40 AM

In most of my WILD's, I get to the point of almost falling asleep, just before the point of dreaming before the vibrations and dream come on. What a lot of beginners do is read a whole bunch of tutorials online, each with slightly different methods but same basic principles, and many get too focuses on seeing HI or HH. The only times I have been able to have a WILD was when I ignored the HI/HH and actually just let myself fall asleep and became slightly aware mentally before fully drifting off, hope this helps.

**Crow360** · 08-30-2011 02:37 AM

Thank you, I will try both of these tonight and see if I get anywhere (Maybe I will get lucky, who knows)

**ThatOneGuy** · 08-30-2011 03:22 AM

i have horrible dream recall (im working on it tho

i have low vitam B6 and B12 to so i am going to take thous) so if i did a WILD would i be able to remember it more easily? it just seams like it would

**Ctharlhie** · 08-30-2011 07:14 PM

It may be an issue with your timing. You have a REM cycle every 90 minutes from falling asleep, through the night you spend more time in REM than in Non-REM with each cycle. Maybe you should try WILDing at a later REM period so you are less tired and less likely to lose consciousness? What's your sleeping pattern like?

**Crow360** · 08-31-2011 12:05 AM

Basically I fall asleep around 10pm every night and wake up around 6am every day. When I try and WILD it's usually around 3am-5am (with auto suggestion I am able to do this when I please without an alarm

). And I have tried a variety of things. Such as stay awake at least 30 minutes before trying, but not turning on any lights, waiting ten minutes to even a couple of minutes to try and WILD. Still nothing, I have tried to relax as well, but that makes me have little uncontrollable spasms here and there.

**Ctharlhie** · 08-31-2011 09:20 AM

Try reducing the time of your WBTB significantly, some guides here on DV advise 5 minutes, maybe even less. Last night I literally clambered across the room to turn off my alarm (positioned so I couldn't just reach across, switch it off and fall asleep

), climbed back into bed and started WILDing, pretty soon I was entering SP for the first time in a WILD. Unfortunately I chickened out of it because I felt scared for some reason. Ah well.

**Crow360** · 08-31-2011 12:27 PM

Thank you, I will try it tonight. Along with the other "stay conscious" techniques tonightt aroun 3:45AM my time tonight and get back to you. (I have an alarm set so just in case my auto suggestion fails to wake me up)

**Ctharlhie** · 08-31-2011 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Crow360

Thank you, I will try it tonight. Along with the other "stay conscious" techniques tonightt aroun 3:45AM my time tonight and get back to you. (I have an alarm set so just in case my auto suggestion fails to wake me up)

An alarm is good, just to be sure. Good luck!

**Crow360** · 09-01-2011 09:21 AM

It was a failure. I woke up around 2:35am, ahead of schedule (when I auto suggested 'i will wake up right before the alarm goes off" I didnt know I would wake up 1 hour before it). I had went to sleep around 9pm so I was still good to go. My TV was on so I had to quickly turn it off. But still I tried. I sat there tryin for 20 minutes before giving up. After the first 10 minutes I rolled over, and then it went downhill from there, when i gave up I had a really bad headache. It's 3:20am and I am still awake, I will try again the day after tomorrow, and see if I can get some non-WILD lucid dreams accomplished before then.