*I understand that DEILDs come under the WILD heading*

Having had more success with DEILDs than WILDs - skipping the WBTB, the anchors etc for DEILDs - I'm considering that DEILD might be a better method for someone like me who falls asleep waaaaay too easily for straight up WILDing.

It doesn't matter my WBTB length or quality, whether I count or listen to music/mantras/white noise/ticking clock, visualise, imagine dreams - at some point in the process of a WILD I will always, always lose consciousness. Usually after about five minutes in fact!

I've got to the point where I can recognise and note each process from illogical thoughts, to the HH, but only once to SP during a WILD which led into a lucid. I recognised the SP from my DEILDS.

With DEILDs it's much easier but I don't want to abandon WBTB WILDs completely - I'm thinking of trying the CanWILD tutorial which seems a good middle ground. I just have no luck with staying awake short of pain And as everyone says, the goal is to fall asleep, just not fall unconscious!

So I'm wondering whether learning the process through DEILDs would help with WILDS? If I went back to DEILDs and then tried WILDing again later, would that make a difference?