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      Unhappy WILD is confusing me, please help D:

      I don't get wild at all lol. So the past few weeks/months I've been aiming for sleep paralysis during WILD and it worked. I was able to induce it a few times. I felt vibrations, falling sensation and just the SP wave coming over my body. But last night, I tried WILD 3 times. With the first two attempts, my hands and feet just turned completely numb. That's all. But the third time, I was just trying to fall asleep again. I was laying on my side though. And when I'm just about to fall asleep, I could feel my entire body going completely numb. And I started seeing flashing lights in the darkness with my eyes closed. I didn't understand a thing what was going on. I started to imagine something like a scene. And it appeared outa the darkness right in front of me, it was like seeing with your eyes open but they were closed. If these makes any sense. And all of sudden, I was in my dream realising I was lucid. Then everything went black so I was lucid for a couple of seconds. But here's the thing; some people say you don't experience sleep paralysis at all during WILD. Which happened last night. And other people say you need to go through sleep paralysis during WILD. Which happened all the other times. I actually don't know what to expect anymore with my next WILD?
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      Hey Crashyy

      The problem with sleep paralysis is that it have many meanings. The first meaning is the paralysation of the body that occurs during REM sleep in order to prevent you from acting out your dreams.
      Another meaning is the experience peope have where they see alien, angels or monster and feel unable to move, in other words they think they are awake and feel that they aren't be able to move and that the things they see are either real or an hallucination in the waking state.
      And the third usage of the term that is spreading like a virus on this site and that is the belief of sleep paralysis being a necessary step in the WILD induction. I am not exactly sure what people mean but I think there are many definitions of what that kind of sleep paralysis means.
      But I think the main problem is that they think they can transition from sensations you get from relaxation, which they call and believe is sleep paralysis

      However as you can see these can cause some confusion, but what you need to understand is that these have one thing in common.

      They all occur when you already are dreaming! If you do wake up and feel paralysed and dream in the waking state then you have a sleep disorder that is called.. Sleep paralysis.

      ARGHH!

      Another problem is that people think that vibrations is sleep paralysis, NO the paralysation of the body happens when we dream so if you feel some mild or even kind of heavy vibrations when you relax, it's just a sign that the body is getting relaxed. If you the body truly was getting paralysed it would mean that you were dreaming and yeah let's just say that you would feel alot more sensations if you were in a dream.

      You can actually go to bed right now, and have eyes open and read a book and have your legs still for a few minutes, and you will feel some vibrations, I am not kidding I do a WILD attempt every night and sometimes I can feel heavy vibrations after just a few seconds! Does this mean I am in Sleep paralysis or even dreaming? Well obviously not. The problem with this though is that beginners beat themself up and blame themself because they can't transition from what they think is sleep paralysis... Again if you are in sleep paralysis you are already dreaming, and sleep paralysation means the sensations you feel when you relax well then they try something very advanced.

      Although this can help you understand thar you don't go from the relaxation stage to sleep paralysis to dreaming. You go from Relaxation to dreaming!
      When you feel that you can't move or see aliens, angels or anything strange just become aware of that this is already a dream.

      So if you feel any sensations like hearing a beeping sound for example, then put your awareness on it because you are then putting awareness on the dream!

      You are now in both the dreaming state and waking state at the same time, in order to transition you need to put more awareness on the dreaming state so what you need to do is to stop focusing on your physical body! Which is one of the problems that arise when you focus on sleep paralysis and ask yourself (can I move and can I feel my body?) because you are by then focusing on the waking state. When you can hear the beep really loud you can take a chance and just get out of bed, in all of my DEILD attempts where I amplify these dreaming sensations I have realized that I have transitioned and are by then just dreaming that I am still in my bed.

      Remember though if the sensations doesn't feel really strong then you are not very likely to be "fully" dreaming so just continue to relax, although if you want to give up the attempt and "feel" that you are awake, instead of getting up and performing reality check try this instead. Try to fall asleep normally, I don't know why but at some times I feel the sensations the moment I start to try to fall asleep.

      And my wise quote for the day haha.. "You got to risk it to get the biscuit!"

      It takes a little practise, but after some time you can actually just feel the shift in awareness, but start out by just taking the chance and catch the false awakening or rather the false failed WILD attempt.

      Happy WILDing
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      MasterMind is right.

      For some reason people are calling vibrations, feeling of body getting heavy or floaty, hearing sounds and other sensations as SP. But all of those are just a normal signs of falling asleep and geeting close to a lucid dream. So yes, most people do experience some of these sensations when WILDing, but they are not SP.

      Here are some sensations you can experience while WILDing and also how to enter from them into a WILD.Sensations and types of entry into WILD.

      And BTW, you say that you got lucid, so you got your WILD! Next time just do the same. Don't worry about feeling/hearing/seeing things. If you experience any of it, just passivly observe. Keep your mind awake with mantras and you should pull it off again. Happy dreams

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      Paralysis is just one of the many phenomena that happen on the threshold of sleep. Sometimes you feel paralysis, sometimes you don't. You can have all sorts of hallucinations, including sounds, lights, vibrations, voices, body distortions, ect. Every WILD seems to be different, and it is different for everyone. Just pay attention, and be ready for anything.
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