Thread: Vibrations to LD

Hey brenthinds! Good news is those vibrations are a common transitional phase when WILDing and DEILDing. I had them for years and didn't know I could, or how to turn them into a lucid dream. If I understand correctly (and I know who will correct me if I am incorrect you know who you are, and I love you anyway), once you feel those vibrations, you are already IN the dream. At that point you can either get up out of bed, or open your "dream eyes" and enter the scene you see. Or what I do now is after 3 or 4 of those cycles or waves of vibrations (which I try to imagine are being concentrated in my head and face and eyes), I can start to see through my eyelids and enter that dream scene. Usually all I see is just my room, with maybe one or 2 things that appear off (and this is why folks have a lot of FAs, because they think they fucked up at this point and woke up). Just assume it's a dream, if you see your room, and just get up and explore, RC or whatever you normally do when you LD.

I've got some great links for you to check out in regards to this:

http://www.dreamviews.com/wild/13228...out-noise.html
http://www.dreamviews.com/wild/13256...ur-dreams.html
http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...ntry-wild.html

In the first one, Sageous explains about those different "mileposts" or transitions, including vibrations. In the next thread, Sageous talks about forming the lucid dream once you've hit a milepost. In the third thread, you can read about all the different users and what they experience as they WILD, how they transition, and how they turn those transitional stages into a successful WILD. Pretty interesting stuff. Good luck and let me know if helpful

I would like to know if the vibrations mean that you are already in a dream because I have had them fade and may have been in an FA, but I get something similar to you:

Or what I do now is after 3 or 4 of those cycles or waves of vibrations (which I try to imagine are being concentrated in my head and face and eyes)

I feel the vibrations in the same areas you mentioned and I "nudge" on the vibrations by kind of clenching my eyes more tightly closed and I have always thought of the vibrations as an indication that I was at the doorstep of a dream...but perhaps I was always already in..?

I'm guessing already in, simply because in the past when I didn't know what the vibrations were, I would get up and go to the bathroom and brush my teeth etc, and it ended up being a FA. But whenever I treat every single moment following 3 or 4 waves of vibrations (I haven't experimented much after a single wave or 2 out of worry of waking up for real) as if I'm already in a dream, I'm always right. So that's good news there. I do approach it kinda slow though. I mean, after a few waves, I don't bolt up out of bed (again, for worry that my real body will). I take my time and feel stuff out.

I actually begin to have vibrations in my head while awake, even walking, if I'm tired enough. Not as powerful as WILD vibrations, but I do have them. I use them to determine when I'm ready to go back to sleep during a WBTB. When I'm WILDing, I don't think I'm quite there yet once they begin, but there seems to be a tipping point where I will go into a LD if I let myself relax enough while retaining awareness. It literally feels like a dive. But I still feel my body in the beginning of the vibrations, so I don't think I'm really dreaming at that point.

You can try to let yourself sink into or through your bed when you feel the vibrations. At least, that's what it feels like for me, and helping it along by imagining that sensation seems to work. And like Ophelia, I expect to see through my eyelids, so once I can do that, I know I'm in.

Thank you Ophelia Perhaps the times that it faded were due to me not waiting for additional waves and "nudging" to early. I wonder if my "nudges" seemed to work at times because I was already successfully in the dream or already far enough along.

Several months back I was noticing that the vibrations were absent in a few successful WILDs and also that I was falling asleep during my WILD attempts perhaps unaware of the vibrations. Because of this I started to use a mantra before WILD attempts that I would notice the vibrations and had some success in bringing back the vibrations (or more likely staying conscious through them). I had some last night that faded.

Edit: Just saw your post Sibyline...thank you also!

After reading about vibrations on this forum i once had them when trying to go to sleep and went straight into a lucid dream at the start of my sleep it was pretty crazy/intense. Haven't been able to do it again though

Brenthinds:

First, I hope you paid attention to OpheliaBlue, because she's got this stuff down cold. But I suppose I need to take exception to something ...

Those vibrations, which I personally feel you ought to ignore, are probably doing their thing while you are still in the transition to sleep, and you are not yet dreaming (but you're really close, mind you!). The only exception to this is if you've built up solid expectations of vibrations occurring, and your dreaming mind obligingly includes them in your NLD schema. So I guess you've got two choices, both of which you can try with each LD attempt:

A) You can just ignore the vibrations, or at most mark them as mileposts pointing toward your dream, and calmly prepare yourself for the upcoming dream. When the dream does arrive, you'll likely know, but do keep an eye out for FA's, and do try to form your dream as you hopefully planned in waking life, and you should be able to work yourself into a LD. Or:

B) If the vibrations are a result of expectations and you are actually dreaming them (rather than witnessing normal bodily functions), then do step A anyway; it will work even better.

The other thing to keep in mind is that it might not be a good idea to attempt to convert vibrations into a LD. By focusing on the noise, you run the risk of elevating its importance to the point where that noise is all that matters, you forget your dream goals, and finally you forget you're supposed to be falling asleep at all, and you run the risk of waking up. This is especially true during DEILD, when you are not actually in a "falling asleep" cycle, and your body is as much in the mood to wake up as it is to go back to sleep.

And yes, in my opinion that OBE transition you are experiencing (or wish to experience, as it were) is very likely a LD... that does not make it a bad thing, and once you're there it is possible to test (or choose, perhaps) whether you're dreaming or OBE'ing, so you can sort it out then.

Thanks for all the replies. OpheliaBlue, I have tried something like that many times. I will feel the vibrations and so I open my eyes and look at my hands to see if they look different but they look the same. Sometimes I will get up and, even though I feel different, I nose RC and I can't breathe and I look at myself in my mirror but nothing looks strange.

Has anyone else had experience with sinking into your bed during WILD? I read that it is a good way to separate your dream body from your physical body when trying to WILD like this.

Originally Posted by Sibyline

You can try to let yourself sink into or through your bed when you feel the vibrations. At least, that's what it feels like for me, and helping it along by imagining that sensation seems to work. And like Ophelia, I expect to see through my eyelids, so once I can do that, I know I'm in.

You're not going to believe how I managed to botch a WILD right after writing the above... but for the sake of "do as I say not as I do", here it is:
Great NLD recall and a botched WILD after self-hypnosis script - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Originally Posted by Sibyline's dream journal

I had been trying to help out on a thread about WILD vibrations, and when I really did try to WILD during the night I did exactly what I had said in that post... except I kept trying to sink into my bed in different directions, completely forgetting my final piece of advice from that thread - to look through my eyelids for confirmation that I was in a dream. So there I was, all ready for the dog biscuit TOTM, not realizing that I had already achieved my WILD, and eventually losing lucidity.

Why am I such an insufferable idiot in my dreams!?

Originally Posted by brenthinds

...Has anyone else had experience with sinking into your bed during WILD? I read that it is a good way to separate your dream body from your physical body when trying to WILD like this.

Yes, pretty much anyone who has done a few WILD's has felt that "sinking into your bed" feeling. This is not unusual, and it indicates that your dream has already begun. So there is no need to "separate," as that has already happened anyway; better to avoid redundancy (and distracting attention to the "noise"), just say "Hey, this is the dream!" and get to work.

[I realize this bit doesn't fit into your thread's theme either, but it's there, so I guess I'll leave it.]

Yes the vibrations lef for me to feel like i was floating down sinking into my bed I let it happen and found myself in lucid dream land

I wonder, what these vibrations actually are.
A hallucination - and something to do with bodily sensitivity - but unlike hearing and seeing things - such a sensation was completely alien to me, the first of only two times they appeared. With no WILD yet, just as aside.

Sense of vibrations seems to be the obvious suspect - maybe it's just so alien because it is so generalized..
Any way - I had the impression to experience something, I had never experienced before.