Thread: WILD Counting Anchor becomes ineffective?

Originally Posted by sivason

The problem I see with only counting to two is it does not let you know how close to loosing awareness you are. When I count to higher numbers and keep starting over I can tell when I am too close to just normal sleep and can gently stimulate my mind. If I space off before reaching five or six a couple times in a row I know I need to be careful. I will then switch to a mantra like "I am dreaming" for a few moments. This wakes my mind up a tiny bit and I go back to counting. Simply counting 0,1,2,0,1,2 does not let you know you've gotten to close to full loss of awareness.

You should not pay close attention to the anchor. You are attempting to trick your body into believing the mind is sleeping. That is why I say fantasizing is not a good anchor. Now, after the body is truely asleep, then you can move to visualization. Before that any anchor should be flat out boring and un stimulating.

Thanks once more

I've tried counting up to 15 yesterday and it resulted in False Awakening
I have expirenced twice spaceoff from anchor and it seems like i was in dream's bed after 2nd spaceoff without any signs of transmission


I've got one more question if you don't mind

When i'm trying to WILD right after waking up from alarm
Aswell with anchor i'm losing consciousness
There's no any signs nor spaceoffs, i'm counting and bam unconscious

Would staying awake for like 20 minutes after waking up solve this issue?

I think that it might help since in some of my WILD attemps which succeded i had troubles falling asleep.
I could wake up and use anchor for like 15 - 45 minutes without falling asleep and just then Paralysis, WILD Entrance n' lucidity would happen

Maybe staying awake could reproduce successful effects of being unable to sleep before WILD?